Who is the best MLN reliever that isn't a closer?

[BennyBigNuts]

OOPS. MLB reliever obviously not MLN dammit lol.



From what I've watched this year it's hands down the Rosenthal kid on the Cards.
Outstanding stuff. Fukking guy has an 89MPH change-up. He's fearless.
Definitely the closer of the future for this team OR possibly a starter in my opinion.

I don't know if anyone else that isn't a closer can touch this guy.

Kind of reminds me of Kyle Farnsworth when he first came up. Guy had such nasty stuff but could never get it together. I hope Rosenthal ends up in better shape than Kyle.

Who you guys like? Or do you agree with me?

[thes0vereign]

Before his most recent surgery, I would have said Jonny Venters of the Braves.

[face]

david robertson of yankees is pretty good

[PaperTrail07]

not broxton....that is all

[samrock67]

Mark Melancon(Pit)
Kenley Jansen(LAD)
Jesse Crain(CWS)

[stevenash]

Mark Melancon

[StevenSuarez]

This season: Crain, Scheppers, Brothers, Melancon, just to name a few...

[greenhippo]

Melancon was a penetrating rock with Houston, hated when we traded that guy as much as Pence or Bourn. Reliever who won 8 games for the 2011 Astros, that has to tell you something right there.

[BigDeem5]

Pestano when he gets his arm right.

[stevenash]

Pestano when he gets his arm right.

I like your whole back end of the 'pen when right.
Smith, Perez, Allen, Pestano.....

[2daBank]

benny you sharp as a razor..rosenthal is a beast...

[LT Profits]

Very quietly, James Russell of the Cubs.

[ShogunRua]

Tanner Scheppers is having an outstanding year

[darrell74]

Mark Melancon

thats right

[stevenash]

thats right

Most underrated relief pitcher (that doesn't close) in the business.

[konck]

Sam Lecure Red is a great set up man has lots of holds but first time they stuck him in there to save he gives up his first run in 10 games lol. Maybe a Parnell Jr

[You mad bro]

Joba chamberlain for his first 25 innings ......

[stevenash]

Joba chamberlain for his first 25 innings ......

He pisses me off though

[konck]

Joba chamberlain for his first 25 innings ......

You mean the Joba that never was ...never is .....and never will be JOBA?

[You mad bro]

You mean the Joba that never was ...never is .....and never will be JOBA?

Yeah .. That guy ... Had so much talent and then it all went bye bye

[El Nino]

David Hernandez is solid for the Dbacks and could easily close.

[BennyBigNuts]

Mark Melancon

For sure that guy became an animal out of no where the last couple years.

Melancon was a penetrating rock with Houston, hated when we traded that guy as much as Pence or Bourn. Reliever who won 8 games for the 2011 Astros, that has to tell you something right there.

Yeah, it tells you they HAD to let him go lol. They don't like good players in Houston.

Joba chamberlain for his first 25 innings ......

Where the fukkkk you been brah?

David Hernandez is solid for the Dbacks and could easily close.

Nah Imma disagree with you on this one Nino which is rare. He's had opps to close with Balt and Ariz and failed. Very streaky pitcher. Pretty sure he had a good year last year though and this year so far, but he used to be a meatballer and I wouldn't want him on my team for the 8-9 innings.

[BennyBigNuts]

Mark Melancon(Pit)
Kenley Jansen(LAD)
Jesse Crain(CWS)

Agree with Melancon but def not Jansen. Guy has stuff but he can't get it together. Very inconsistent. I've been fortunate to be on the winning side of his choke the last couple years so he sticks out for me.
Crain is def solid.

I like your whole back end of the 'pen when right.
Smith, Perez, Allen, Pestano.....

Might be the first thing I've ever seen you say I disagree with nasher. That bullpen is garbage and will blowup miserably soon. Perez is an overrated headcase and the biggest tilt-closer of all time. He sucks. Even his numbers suck I'm pretty sure.
The only decent guy is Pestano. Rest of them are junk. No way they keep good numbers up for the whole year.

[Chi_archie]

Melancon not as sharp these days

Relievers are a dime a dozen, and its very rare that they are good for more than 1-2 years before having a sucky year.

lot of luck involved.

I've said it before, but it bears repeating.... If I'm the Pirates' Gm i'm trying to unload Grilli and Melancon NOW

[El Nino]

Nah Imma disagree with you on this one Nino which is rare. He's had opps to close with Balt and Ariz and failed. Very streaky pitcher. Pretty sure he had a good year last year though and this year so far, but he used to be a meatballer and I wouldn't want him on my team for the 8-9 innings.

Yeah, I mean Putz has pretty much been the closer in AZ since Hernandez has been here. Also, Hernandez did have more blown saves (6) than saves (4) when he had the opportunity in 2012. He has pretty much been the 8th inning guy though. He was an outstanding 8th inning setup man last season. Stats are posted below...98 K's in 68.1 innings, 25 Holds, and a WAR of 1.7 which is pretty sick for an 8th inning guy.

This year, with the addition of fat fukk Heath Bell, they would sort of alternate throwing Bell and Hernandez in for the 8th with Zeigler taking the 7th if needed. With Putz hurt, Bell took the closer roll and Hernandez is back as the 8th inning man.

[You mad bro]

Where the fukkkk you been brah?

Away for family issues big guy but i should be back to troll some more now more than ever

[BennyBigNuts]

Yeah, I mean Putz has pretty much been the closer in AZ since Hernandez has been here. Also, Hernandez did have more blown saves (6) than saves (4) when he had the opportunity in 2012. He has pretty much been the 8th inning guy though. He was an outstanding 8th inning setup man last season. Stats are posted below...98 K's in 68.1 innings, 25 Holds, and a WAR of 1.7 which is pretty sick for an 8th inning guy.

This year, with the addition of fat fukk Heath Bell, they would sort of alternate throwing Bell and Hernandez in for the 8th with Zeigler taking the 7th if needed. With Putz hurt, Bell took the closer roll and Hernandez is back as the 8th inning man.

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Wow his K's were sick last year. I think I just remember him dogging 3 or 4 games last year for me, I knew he turned it around after leaving Balt.
Don't think his stuff comes anywhere close to Rosenthal's though. They aren't even on the same planet IMO.

[opie1988]

Tanner Scheppers is having an outstanding year

Absolutely. I think Tanner and Robbie Ross are as good as it gets as set-up guys for Nathan.

The record proves as much.

[BennyBigNuts]

Away for family issues big guy but i should be back to troll some more now more than ever

Troll away my good friend.
That's the SBR way!!!
Lol

Good to see you back.

[You mad bro]

Absolutely. I think Tanner and Robbie Ross are as good as it gets as set-up guys for Nathan.

The record proves as much.

Scheppers been solid .. Hate Ross tho.. Blew a game big for me last year and ill never forget lol

[El Nino]

Wow his K's were sick last year. I think I just remember him dogging 3 or 4 games last year for me, I knew he turned it around after leaving Balt.
Don't think his stuff comes anywhere close to Rosenthal's though. They aren't even on the same planet IMO.

Rosenthal's #'s are ridiculous. No way he maintains that for a season.

Also, where did Crain come from? Guy was a fukkin' nightmare in Minny.

[You mad bro]

Jared burton from Minnesota .. Any one heard of him before?

[You mad bro]

Luke gregerson from SD

[You mad bro]

How can I forget .. Rex Brothers .. Guy has an under .5 era but his only problem is his walks

[Chi_archie]

best to not judge relievers by ERA too heavily IMO