You know who is an underrated player that doesn't get enough credit?

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  • stevenash
    Moderator
    • 01-17-11
    • 66077

    #1
    You know who is an underrated player that doesn't get enough credit?
    Allen Craig.

    1000 big league at bats (next week he'll be at 1000)
    Every offensive number so far is superior to league average.

    .302 in the bigs so far, .350 OBA is well above league average.
    Has big league power 22 homers last season in 119 games

    Plays good defense at first............

    Kid just came up big again aginst KC.
  • No coincidences
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-18-10
    • 76300

    #2
    Couldn't agree more. He's the main reason the Cardinals couldn't care less about Pujols anymore, and he goes about his business in a very unassuming way.
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    • billysink
      Restricted User
      • 03-29-09
      • 5172

      #3
      very good player
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      • Chi_archie
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-22-08
        • 63182

        #4
        what's with the -.1 WAR this year?

        must have a very bad glove?
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        • Chi_archie
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-22-08
          • 63182

          #5
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          • stevenash
            Moderator
            • 01-17-11
            • 66077

            #6
            1.0 more he's top 5
            No biggie
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            • easyliving
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 06-25-12
              • 8876

              #7
              his health was always an issue I remember he couldn't get off the DL last year. However when his healthy no doubt his an all star
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              • Chi_archie
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-22-08
                • 63182

                #8
                Originally posted by stevenash
                1.0 more he's top 5
                No biggie

                but doesn't it still mean that he is just a shade below a "replacement player" ie common bench fodder?

                but more to the point I was asking, his OPS is quite high, so why is his WAR so low? is he Dr. Strange Glove out there?
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                • pavyracer
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-12-07
                  • 82660

                  #9
                  Freddie Freeman is better than him.
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                  • Chi_archie
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-22-08
                    • 63182

                    #10
                    Anthony Rizzo better than both
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                    • No coincidences
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-18-10
                      • 76300

                      #11
                      Paul Goldschmidt is better than all three.
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                      • jnickell100
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-11-09
                        • 4305

                        #12
                        Yes. Very good player and the cards don't miss puljos at all now. You know who gets to much credit? Andre ethier.
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                        • 2daBank
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-26-09
                          • 88966

                          #13
                          been saying it since before poopholes left nasher,,kid can rake.. id think he be hitting more jacks but the kid drives in runners when givin the chance..
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                          • 2daBank
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-26-09
                            • 88966

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Chi_archie
                            but doesn't it still mean that he is just a shade below a "replacement player" ie common bench fodder?

                            but more to the point I was asking, his OPS is quite high, so why is his WAR so low? is he Dr. Strange Glove out there?
                            he certainly isnt a plus in the field but he doesnt make bad plays and he goes wherever cards need him, beltran needs day off he plays a corner outfield spot, hell early on he even played 2nd when cards were trying to find a place for him (that was a disaster tho)
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                            • TheMLBKing
                              SBR MVP
                              • 04-20-13
                              • 1129

                              #15
                              What is OP talking about? Anyone who watches more than 3 cards games a year knows how valuable he is to that team. I guess OP is stuck in 2005 thinking that his hero is gonna win another MVP some time soon.
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                              • I/O
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 05-26-11
                                • 7922

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                Anthony Rizzo better than both
                                let's get a whole year or two in from him before the love fest starts

                                He just had a series he went o'fer. Think it was Pitt
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                                • stevenash
                                  Moderator
                                  • 01-17-11
                                  • 66077

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by TheMLBKing
                                  What is OP talking about? Anyone who watches more than 3 cards games a year knows how valuable he is to that team. I guess OP is stuck in 2005 thinking that his hero is gonna win another MVP some time soon.
                                  Whatever dude.
                                  You need a 3K loan to turn pro you pro fuk dik.

                                  p.s. you are not a very good troller either
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                                  • EASports
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 02-13-13
                                    • 559

                                    #18
                                    Yea I read an article during the Spring that Craig was a NL MVP candidate. If you dont know about Allen Craig then you are not a baseball fan.

                                    Brenden Ryan is truly an underrated player, as all of his value is derived from him being "statistically" the best defensive SS in MLB for the past three years yet never winning a Gloden Golve. Proving that winning a Golden Glove has more to do with your offensive capabilites, even though it is exclusively a defensive award. Alos the best way to win a Golden Glove is to win a Golden Glove in a previous year.
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                                    • EASports
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 02-13-13
                                      • 559

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by No coincidences
                                      Paul Goldschmidt is better than all three.
                                      Goldshimidt has huge platoon splits offensively, and only plays one position defensively. Craig has roamed the OF, as well as holding down 1B.
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                                      • trendon
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 12-06-10
                                        • 534

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                        what's with the -.1 WAR this year?

                                        must have a very bad glove?
                                        Seems you are correct.

                                        Check out the latest Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More of Allen Craig. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, draft status, bats, throws, school and more on Baseball-reference.com


                                        -1.0 dWAR
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                                        • EASports
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 02-13-13
                                          • 559

                                          #21
                                          I have expected more from Craig this year. He is hitting for average, but lacking power. The underrated player on the Cards is Matt Carpenter. His swing and miss #'s pl;us his Strikeout #'s are @ a career low. OBP and batting average have been raised since last year. Great table setter, and multi-postional player defensively.
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                                          • BigDeem5
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-26-11
                                            • 17191

                                            #22
                                            Michael Brantley. .300'hitter is a future stud. Good arm n defensive skills. 5 assists so far this year.
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                                            • face
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-31-11
                                              • 14740

                                              #23
                                              carlos santan and james loney also

                                              maybe loney is having a fluke year though
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                                              • stevenash
                                                Moderator
                                                • 01-17-11
                                                • 66077

                                                #24
                                                Just saying
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                                                • stevenash
                                                  Moderator
                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                  • 66077

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                  kid can rake.. id think he be hitting more jacks but the kid drives in runners when givin the chance..
                                                  Spot on
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                                                  • JMobile
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 08-21-10
                                                    • 19078

                                                    #26
                                                    Yonder Alonson is coming up
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                                                    • stevenash
                                                      Moderator
                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 66077

                                                      #27
                                                      Cards could be the next dynasty, all that young pitching.
                                                      Wacha has not been sharp at all and he's sitting on a 6-2 lead.
                                                      Shelby Miller is already a stud, team is stacked with young talent.
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                                                      • TheMLBKing
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 04-20-13
                                                        • 1129

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                                        Whatever dude.
                                                        You need a 3K loan to turn pro you pro fuk dik.

                                                        p.s. you are not a very good troller either
                                                        troller? lol. Yeah I mistyped though, win is putting it too generously. "Steal" describes it better.
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                                                        • iifold
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 04-25-10
                                                          • 11111

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                          what's with the -.1 WAR this year?

                                                          must have a very bad glove?
                                                          What is Josh Donaldson's WAR?
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                                                          • thirtytwo
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-07-10
                                                            • 1784

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                            Paul Goldschmidt is better than all three.
                                                            i like Goldschmidt too
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                                                            • stevenash
                                                              Moderator
                                                              • 01-17-11
                                                              • 66077

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by iifold
                                                              What is Josh Donaldson's WAR?
                                                              3.0
                                                              tied for third best in the majors for third basemen.
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                                                              • pavyracer
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 04-12-07
                                                                • 82660

                                                                #32
                                                                Freddie Freeman still better than Allen Craig.
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