Everett Golson leaves ND

William Walters · 05-25-13, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by Wilfred

Well they are going to suck again

1 year of not sucking is the true story here.

No coincidences · 05-25-13, 10:26 PM

Sounds like he got caught cheating on a final.

ColdBeerHere · 05-25-13, 10:30 PM

he's currently vacationing in the Bahamas...so long Notre Dame.

http://notredame.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1509328

ChiLLx · 05-25-13, 10:31 PM

How can he get caught cheating in the first place. These high level D1 athletes have private tutors that basically feed them the answers and they just need to memorize them.

WorkHorse · 05-26-13, 07:48 AM

HUGE loss if Golson doesn't play this season and everything points to him not playing for the Irish. I have my doubts if Notre Dame was a top-15 team with Golson but without him I'm not sure they're top-25.

Gunner Kiel, the highly touted recruit who just transferred from Notre Dame must be kicking himself now. No choice now...the Irish will run the ball and play defense. Don't have a clue who plays quarterback.

The Irish are back down to earth after last season's remarkable run (excluding title game).

stevenash · 05-26-13, 08:21 AM

Just my opinion, I think there is a lot behind the scenes that is going on here that we will never know about, because of ND's reputation, and the ND brass doesn't want a stain on it's reputation.

Like Duke, don't believe for a second Duke and ND are squeaky clean, they are not.

TheCentaur · 05-26-13, 09:55 AM

I think this has something to do with black bike week going on right now in his home town

Mac4Lyfe · 05-26-13, 10:02 AM

Pretty soon you guys will find out the truth on why Golson really left ND...

He ran off with Lennay Kekua.

Originally posted by stevenash

Just my opinion, I think there is a lot behind the scenes that is going on here that we will never know about, because of ND's reputation, and the ND brass doesn't want a stain on it's reputation.

Like Duke, don't believe for a second Duke and ND are squeaky clean, they are not.

Wilfred · 05-26-13, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

Pretty soon you guys will find out the truth on why Golson really left ND...

He ran off with Lennay Kekua.

Rumor is that he was caught cheating off of her test.

seaborneq · 05-26-13, 10:33 AM

Notre dame is not that stupid to let golston walk. Cheating on a test? Give me a break, if that's the case then half the student population will also be leaving in the near future. Happens all the time in any situation there is something on the line or something to be gained.

dodger33 · 05-26-13, 10:38 AM

Mark it down. Hendrix will be just fine this year. ND will finish in the top 15 with Hendrix at qb

ROYAJA8 · 05-26-13, 11:25 AM

Dammm that professor will be getting death threats non-stop by fans,students, and other players. Can't believe that professor would call him out on the cheating and cant believe Brian Kelly and the school dean couldn't keep it on the hush and let him slide.
Wow and then losing the great Gunner was a huge loss buy Kelly has a great teAm and they will find someone to replace golson and They will have a big year.

stevenash · 05-26-13, 11:58 AM

6 and 6 ths season and a trip to the Meninke Bowl

pavyracer · 05-26-13, 12:14 PM

I was surprised he even made it to 1 year. The academics at Notre Dame are too hard for athletes who don't like to study.

KKoz9 · 05-26-13, 12:33 PM

Addition by subtraction

he is nothing more than a running back they tried to make into QB

WorkHorse · 05-28-13, 08:44 AM

With Mr. Golson's abrupt exit...I'm thinking the most likely replacement at QB will be old stand-by Tommy Rees. Rees was the 2011 starter who played key roles in four wins last season when Golson either struggled or was injured. I'm guessing because of his game experience, Tommy Rees will open the season for the Irish.

BuddyBear · 05-28-13, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by ChiLLx

How can he get caught cheating in the first place. These high level D1 athletes have private tutors that basically feed them the answers and they just need to memorize them.

This is true for most schools BUT Notre Dame is an unbelievably elite academic institution that won't for a second compromise its academic integrity. It's one thing that I have always admired of Notre Dame is that they maintain a very high academic standard for ALL their students. The football players are held to the same academic standards as all other students and if you can't make it academically at Notre Dame you won't even be recruited. Unlike other so-called elite institutions like University of Michigan, North Carolina University, Syracuse University, University of Wisconsin, etc... that routinely allow low quality students into their university for the sake of building their sports programs.

Without even knowing the situation very well, I am certain Golson wasn't treated any differently than anyone else there even if he was QB.

Wilfred · 05-28-13, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by BuddyBear

This is true for most schools BUT Notre Dame is an unbelievably elite academic institution that won't for a second compromise its academic integrity. It's one thing that I have always admired of Notre Dame is that they maintain a very high academic standard for ALL their students. The football players are held to the same academic standards as all other students and if you can't make it academically at Notre Dame you won't even be recruited. Unlike other so-called elite institutions like University of Michigan, North Carolina University, Syracuse University, University of Wisconsin, etc... that routinely allow low quality students into their university for the sake of building their sports programs.

Without even knowing the situation very well, I am certain Golson wasn't treated any differently than anyone else there even if he was QB.

Look around message boards for the name Davonte Neal in recruiting a couple years ago. They certainly made an exception for him.

BuddyBear · 05-28-13, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by Wilfred

Look around message boards for the name Davonte Neal in recruiting a couple years ago. They certainly made an exception for him.

I did not find anything and am not going to waste time looking. Look there is a certain group of elite D1 academic schools that have made a conscious decision not to compromise their academic integrity because of sports even an era when there is a lot of pressure to do so. Schools like Notre Dame, Stanford, Duke, Rice, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, and a few others. I respect these schools for their decision not to do so. if you look at other schools who have similar academic credentials (e.g. Michigan, UCLA, Texas, Wisconsin, Virginia, etc...) they have said that academics do NOT take precedence over sports and big time college athletics. Whether you like Notre Dame or not, you have to admire how they run their athletic programs.

Wilfred · 05-28-13, 10:46 AM

Maybe they don't do it to the extent as other schools but they do it. You don't get into Notre Dame normally with less than around a 3.7 and I'm sure plenty of people with that and above have been rejected. But if someone who's good at football has a 3.2 or around they will easily get in.

BuddyBear · 05-28-13, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by Wilfred

Maybe they don't do it to the extent as other schools but they do it. You don't get into Notre Dame normally with less than around a 3.7 and I'm sure plenty of people with that and above have been rejected. But if someone who's good at football has a 3.2 or around they will easily get in.

No. Don't speculate unless you have proof that their athletic programs cut corners. There have been several attempts in the past by boosters to "lessen" the standards for admittance into ND but each time the university refuses. I know people who had 4.0s in high school who did not get into Notre Dame. Believe me, ND has has real high standards.

Wilfred · 05-28-13, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by BuddyBear

No. Don't speculate unless you have proof that their athletic programs cut corners. There have been several attempts in the past by boosters to "lessen" the standards for admittance into ND but each time the university refuses. I know people who had 4.0s in high school who did not get into Notre Dame. Believe me, ND has has real high standards.

Were those people top 250 in HS football? Luckily some players submit their HS transcripts to Rivals. Here are just a small percentage of guys that got into ND:

4 Star 2012 Davonte Neal- 3.2 GPA
4 Star 2012 William Mahone- 2.5 GPA
5 Star 2013 Jaylon Smith- 2.9 GPA

SamDiamond · 05-28-13, 11:26 AM

Smart move by Gunner Kiel transferring out to Cincinnati.

What a knucklehead he is.

Losing Golson hurts ND. This will cost them a minimum of 3 games.

I think ND should stop handing out the #5 jersey too.

Darkside Magick · 05-28-13, 11:59 AM

All that shyt buddybear was talking and guys getting in with 2.5..lmaooooooooooo

ChalkyDog · 05-28-13, 02:56 PM

Who gives a shit? Guy is an overhyped product, in a historically overhyped program.

The last time ND was relevant, was due to them being in a Hollywood movie.

ChalkyDog · 05-28-13, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by Wilfred

Were those people top 250 in HS football? Luckily some players submit their HS transcripts to Rivals. Here are just a small percentage of guys that got into ND:

4 Star 2012 Davonte Neal- 3.2 GPA
4 Star 2012 William Mahone- 2.5 GPA
5 Star 2013 Jaylon Smith- 2.9 GPA

Davonte Neal is a thug and a moron. That said, thank the lord he transferred to Arizona.

Wilfred · 05-28-13, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by ChalkyDog

Davonte Neal is a thug and a moron. That said, thank the lord he transferred to Arizona.

He did something to make Urban Meyer not want him. And that's tough to do.

ChalkyDog · 05-28-13, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by Wilfred

He did something to make Urban Meyer not want him. And that's tough to do.

I am pretty familiar with this kid, as he went to school right near my parents house, and as a result his HS career and also his recruitment was very public knowledge.

His handlers are god awful, he is a giant douche. Thankfully he is very talented, or I am convinced he would have shot up a liquor store by now. (One of Arizona's best returners actually is spending time in jail currently for armed robbery).

I/O · 05-28-13, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by BuddyBear

I did not find anything and am not going to waste time looking. Look there is a certain group of elite D1 academic schools that have made a conscious decision not to compromise their academic integrity because of sports even an era when there is a lot of pressure to do so. Schools like Notre Dame, Stanford, Duke, Rice, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, and a few others. I respect these schools for their decision not to do so. if you look at other schools who have similar academic credentials (e.g. Michigan, UCLA, Texas, Wisconsin, Virginia, etc...) they have said that academics do NOT take precedence over sports and big time college athletics. Whether you like Notre Dame or not, you have to admire how they run their athletic programs.

As long as you are not the one filming practices in a scissor lift during a windstorm

I/O · 05-28-13, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by BuddyBear

I did not find anything and am not going to waste time looking. Look there is a certain group of elite D1 academic schools that have made a conscious decision not to compromise their academic integrity because of sports even an era when there is a lot of pressure to do so. Schools like Notre Dame, Stanford, Duke, Rice, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, and a few others. I respect these schools for their decision not to do so. if you look at other schools who have similar academic credentials (e.g. Michigan, UCLA, Texas, Wisconsin, Virginia, etc...) they have said that academics do NOT take precedence over sports and big time college athletics. Whether you like Notre Dame or not, you have to admire how they run their athletic programs.

I don't know if this is common practice but I believe ND is paying their former coach more than the current. Of course they have the number coming in to cover it but it's not a very admirable way to run a program.

Sweetness · 05-28-13, 04:25 PM

Some of these comments are hilarious. Tommy Rees was the better qb last year and should of played a hell of a lot more than he did. The only downfall to this is Kelly's O will lose a year of progression under a qb whose better sooted running his system. But in the short term the Irish will be just fine this year with Rees running the show.

I/O · 05-28-13, 04:36 PM

Feel free to give me any info....

Isn't Tommy at that school or even on the field thanks to Pops???

Popcorn Trick · 05-28-13, 04:45 PM

Notre Dame is not Stanford, but for some reason they think they close the gap by being academically tougher with regards to their athletes.

Popcorn Trick · 05-28-13, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by BuddyBear

This is true for most schools BUT Notre Dame is an unbelievably elite academic institution that won't for a second compromise its academic integrity. It's one thing that I have always admired of Notre Dame is that they maintain a very high academic standard for ALL their students. The football players are held to the same academic standards as all other students and if you can't make it academically at Notre Dame you won't even be recruited. Unlike other so-called elite institutions like University of Michigan, North Carolina University, Syracuse University, University of Wisconsin, etc... that routinely allow low quality students into their university for the sake of building their sports programs.

Without even knowing the situation very well, I am certain Golson wasn't treated any differently than anyone else there even if he was QB.

Wish this was as true with respect to their moral integrity.