Three big trips and tons of cash. One of the best free forum contests I have ever seen. Very cool.
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Wow what a contest. BetCris just became one of my outs for football!Comment -
Originally posted by kdmfoxIt is a bit confusing but I'm pretty sure that the $200 is a cash bonus and not a freeplay but subject to rollover before withdrawal.
With $10,300 in weekly "prizes" (500x1 and 200x49) plus 5,000 in deposits to claim the "prizes" a rollover of 45,900 is needed before anyone sees a dime ... I'd be surprised if the 5,000 in weekly deposits translates into a 1,000 in withdrawals for the contest winners.
Bottom line is, a contest prize (bonus) is more of a great "deal" for a 100 deposit and not a true prize for beating the Prick ... If you beat the Prick 17 straight weeks, you get 17 "deals" on $100 deposits with 15,300 in rollover requirements ... Could it be that the real winners are those that the Prick beats?
Well anyway, there is the season ending prizes, so count me in.
are you serious? how can a 200% bonus with a 3x rollover be a bad deal for the player? its amazing how some people thinkComment -
Yes, a 200% bonus is a great deal on a $100 deposit ... I think you are missing the point here ... This is supposed to be a "prize" for beating the Prick, not great deal time.Originally posted by BigDaddyComment -
your missing the point do you gamble? i gamble alot and i cant get a 200% bonus at any book so getting $200 free money to do something i do all during football and baseball season anyways is a prize IMHO maybe you should just skip the contest and wait for a better one to come along?Originally posted by kdmfoxComment -
Yes, I do gamble and do my fair share ... I happen to be a decent customer at CRIS and never take a bonus which is my choice as I don't care to jump through rollover hoops but fully understand why others do ... I find it a bit excessive to deposit an additional $100 on top of any existing balance every time the Prick is beaten which is quite often given his history ... On the surface it looks like CRIS is putting up a huge prize pool but in reality most of the winners will leave their "prize" with them plus the $100 they deposited to get it ... I also fully understand why these contests are put on by the books, which is to attract new business ... Opening an account and maintaining a minimum balance would seem sufficient for a player to experience what a book has to offer.
We can agree to disagree ... Getting a great deal on a deposit may be a prize to you but it's not to me ... It's a clever way to attract business where the bulk of the winners will be leaving $$$ with them, not them leaving it with you ... To that I tip my cap to them.
As for the contest itself, I will participate as I enjoy the competition which isn't against the Prick but the other contestants ... As for the weekly prizes, I'll cross that bridge if and when I get there, if of course that's ok with you.Comment -
Yes fox, you are without a doubt quite right that there are certain "strings" attached to the weekly prizes. 200% or 500% deposit bonuses obviously have value lower than face. I certainly do see how this could be a bit disconcerting on principle.
Nevertheless, the value of the weekly prizes certainly are extremely positive -- assuming a cash deposit bonus with 3x roll, a -110 line set, and no scalping opportunities, we're talking between $159.09 and $174.04 for the $200 prize and between $418.18 and $446.07 for the $500 prize. This is especially true for a player who'd be placing bets anyway.
Obviously this is a marketing opportunity for CRIS. They want players to start using their book. But this doesn't change the fact that the "deal" they're offering has huge expected value for the player. Perhaps if the prizes were described differently you'd feel more comfortable. Let's say: "A $500 CRIS deposit bonus with a cash equivalent value of at least $418, and a $200 CRIS deposit bonus with a cash equivalent value of at least $159."
I'm totally with you on this, fox. I'm always exceptionally wary of indentures masquerading as sportsbook or casino largesse. But we're not talking a 10% bonus with 6x rollover or a No-Juice pseudo-bailout. We're talking bonuses at way above market price the fine print of which lowers their value only slightly.Comment -
Hey ganch ... I suppose you can look at this from different angles ... When you win a contest you like to put something in your pocket ... The perception here is that you are initially winning something but the reality is you are putting something in their pocket with a good chance of never seeing the "prize" you won (earned) ... If CRIS was going to be shelling out a sizeable amount of $, they wouldn't be trotting out the Prick to put up against us ... He's good for a laugh or two with his rhetoric but that's about it ... From their side, he's actually good for business ... He loses, we deposit and use their service ... He wins and we don't deposit and use their service.
I'm already a customer and they have a fine book deserving of their rating.Comment -
I will be taking part in the contest. Have no problem depositing $100 to get $200. I will have no problem meeting rollover requirements and money is about as safe as offshore money can be. I can see your point fox, but I think it will be beneficial for quite a few posters.Comment -
I rolled my prize money last year into nearly two dimes. It's a great contest and the money just kept coming thanks to our friend the prick.
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kmdfox,
I see what you are saying and have respect for you as poster...
it's like this for me...I got $300 from beating the prick last year (started half way through the season)...and yeah, I did have to roll it over less than I will have to this year if I'm able to beat him (cough, cough), and rolling it over can be tiring as I mainly play at books without bonuses and thus no rollover requirements...but I look at it this way...How much would I have gotten if SBR and Cris didn't have beat the prick?...zero...
and with betjamaica hoops contest and the $500 I have to rollover 6 times...how much would I have gotten if SBR didn't have the contest?...zero...
yes, both Cris and SBR are less at risk this year than they were last year with the Beat the Prick contest, but I'm still very happy they are having it...Comment -
i agree its a great contest
on the downside I was going to deposit 500-1k in cris but this contest has discouraged me from doing so, with the 100 deposit rule on winning i may as well wait and use other books.......just seems ironic as the contest is geared to get business has driven me away.........but as i said i think its a great valueComment -
You don't say that eventually you made withdrawals off the winnings, which if you didn't you ended up with zero anyway, but I don't diminish the fact you got free plays ... There is something to be said that for the great bulk of contest winnings, the contestant plays with it until it's exhausted therefore costing the sponsor nothing and hopefully getting a long term customer.Originally posted by pags11
As far as Beat The Prick goes, I opened an account with them for the contest last year, won a few times, and remained a customer with them ... Other contests I opened an account and deposited $50 or $100 whatevever their requirement was and rode it out to its conclusion and left them with the initial deposit and no more.
This contest is great marketing as they require you to deposit every time you win and you have to rollover that deposit plus whatever you may have won ... There is a potential of winning 17 times and making 17 deposits and still ending up with zero, costing the contestant 1,700 and the sponsor zero ... In fact the sponsor is the winner ... The nature of the game is that sponsors in the long run probably actually pay out very little after rollover ... For us, we do get the play.
On another note ... Am I to assume that the number of posts are the determining factor in who wins the weekly $500 top prize? .. With 4 selections per week there will certainly be a log jam at the top every week .. I can't ever see a scenario where 1 person will outright win ... If this is the case, the great bulk of contestants will never have a shot at the top weekly prize ... Unfortunately I don't have a better suggestion to make it more equitable to those that have made 500 posts vs those that have made 1,500 plus.
Well, enough of this ... Let's rock.Comment -
kmdfox,
good post...
just to let you know...I bet a bunch of bowl games and college hoops and eventually got to withdraw my money sometime in February...but, you're right, meeting the rollover is definitely to the advantage of Cris...
regarding the contest tiebreaker...I think it's good for SBR to do it this way, because it encourages posters to stay on the forum on a yearly basis, rather than just during football season (when Beat the Prick is going on)...Comment -
Now that's a football contest. Props!Comment -
pags ... kmdfox ----> it's kdmfox
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I agree that the tie breaker format should reward loyal posters and SBR faithful ... It's just that the same 5 or 6 people, or less, will possibly win every tiebreaker ... My only suggestion is that if you have already won a tiebreaker, that it goes to the 2nd person with the most posts and so on down the line, therefore rewarding a variety of long time posters and maybe a cap at 5 deep before starting over ... Let's face it, every week the Prick is beaten, there will be multiple ties at the top due to the few picks.Originally posted by pags11
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crap, sorry dude...always had it in my head that it was spelled that way...my bad...
I just think this is SBR's way of discouraging ghost posters that appear on many sites for brief periods of time...I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this might be the best contest out there on the net right now (and I think SBR knows this), which is why they'd rather hand the bonus money continually to the SBR faithful, vs. a newbie that like a gold diggin' wife may just be using them...Comment -
Contest Prizes - Updated
Beat The Prick
Free Football Handicapping Contest
Over $200,000 in Cash & Prizes !!!
SEASON-ENDING PRIZES
GRAND PRIZE:
Trip for Two to Super Bowl XLI
• Round-trip airfare for 2 from anywhere in the continental United States to Miami
• 4 days and 3 nights deluxe accommodations for 2 at the Sheraton, Ft. Lauderdale
• 2 reserved Club Level tickets to Super Bowl XLI
• Round trip game day transfers from hotel to Dolphin Stadium
• Daily breakfast and commemorative event souvenir
• $1500 USD Cash
2nd PLACE:
Trip for Two to the 2007 BCS National Championship
• Round-trip airfare for 2 from anywhere in the continental United States to Phoenix
• 4 days and 3 nights deluxe accommodations for 2 at the Doubletree Guest Suites, Phoenix
• 2 reserved Lower/Club Level tickets to BCS Championship on Sunday, Jan. 8, 2007
• Round trip game day transfers from hotel to stadium
• Daily breakfast and commemorative event souvenir
• $1000 USD spending cash
3rd PLACE:
Trip for Two to the 2007 NFL Pro Bowl in Hawaii
• Round-trip airfare for 2 from anywhere in the continental United States to Honolulu
• 4 days and 3 nights deluxe accommodations for 2 at the Waikiki Beach Marriott Resort & Spa
• 2 reserved Lower Level tickets to the Pro Bowl on Saturday, Feb. 10, 2007
• Round trip game day transfers from hotel to Aloha Stadium
• Commemorative event souvenir
• $500 USD spending cash
4th PLACE: $1000 USD CASH
5th PLACE: $800 USD CASH
6th PLACE: $600 USD CASH
7th PLACE: $500 USD CASH
8th PLACE: $500 USD CASH
9th PLACE: $500 USD CASH
10th PLACE: $300 USD CASH
11th PLACE: $300 USD CASH
12th PLACE: $300 USD CASH
13th PLACE: $300 USD CASH
14th PLACE: $300 USD CASH
15th PLACE: $300 USD CASH
16th PLACE: $200 USD CASH
17th PLACE: $200 USD CASH
18th PLACE: $200 USD CASH
19th PLACE: $200 USD CASH
20th PLACE: $200 USD CASH
WEEKLY BONUS PRIZES
Up to 50 Weekly Winners!
• One highest-scoring Weekly Winner to Beat the Prick will receive a $500 deposit bonus (with a minimum, one-time deposit of $100*) at BetCRIS
• An additional 49 Weekly Winners to Beat the Prick will each receive a $200 deposit bonus (with a minimum, one-time deposit of $100*) at BetCRIS
• *NOTE: Weekly winners will be required to deposit a minimum of $100 USD into their BetCRIS account the FIRST time they claim a weekly bonus prize, regardless of their previous or current account balance. Any and all subsequent weekly bonus prizes will not require additional deposits beyond the initial $100 minimum. All bonus awards are subject to 5x rollover, as well as BetCRIS terms and conditions.
EVEN MORE PRIZES
Everybody Wins!
• Booby Prize! - The lowest season-ending combined score for Weeks 3-17 will receive a $500 deposit bonus (with a minimum one-time deposit of $100 - see NOTE under Weekly Winners) at BetCRIS
• All contestants that play the minimum 13 weeks from Week 3 through Week 17 will receive a free Beat the Prick polo shirt
CLICK HERE FOR CONTEST RULES
PS: You must be a registered member of SBR Forum and Total Number of Posts may come into play ... so quit screwing around ... join now and start posting!
And another thing, you'll be needing an account at BetCRIS if you think you have a shot at claiming any of the Prick's prizes ... I'd take care of that now, if I were you!
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This looks like a good contest.Comment -
it is, tomcat...Comment -
has anyone said yet that this is a great contest? just wanted to make sure!
I still wear my Tommy Bahama shirt with pride from being one of the winners last year! I'll be wearing it again Week 3 of NFL at some sportsbook around Vegas hoping not to get any rum and coke stains on it.
But last year was last year...would two yearly wins in a row over Prick constitute a dynasty?!?!
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so that shirt is pretty nice scottric?...I started too late in the game to win one last year...Comment -
I think it's -EV to avoid this contest. Good job to all those who got her going. CRIS is getting a new customer just because of this promo.
Dang, GL and good bowling. This will be fun.Comment -
My girl needs to eat, shes getting scrawny. This contest is better than UNICEF and that Sally Struthers cow. Thanks and "Big Ups" to SBR and to CRIS for this contestComment
