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  • greenhippo
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-15-12
    • 9091

    #1
    How many people make it on gambling alone?
    Pertaining mostly to those who make it in Vegas as pro gamblers or for those who make it online at home through sports wagering. I figure there are upwards of 4 people on this site that this describes, what's it like in your (their) daily routine. Without going into too much details of $ wagered and bankroll unless you care to divulge. You gamble or wager everyday? 5 days a week? What games and what sports are your money makers?


    I could never pack my shit and leave, too much down here in the Houston area keeping me here but I love hearing stories of people who have done it or know people who have.
  • greenhippo
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-15-12
    • 9091

    #2
    For what it's worth I loved keeping up with JayVegas's thread, I really hoped he would have made it. Are there more on here like that?
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    • Vinnie Paz
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-27-12
      • 12177

      #3
      That masterp10 guy
      Mathdotcom

      Dont see either post anymore though.
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      • Smoke
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-09-09
        • 48111

        #4
        Only one

        Billy Walters

        End of list
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        • hubbard689
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 10-28-12
          • 583

          #5
          Haralabos Voulgaris, youtube him for interviews/tour of his house. Best NBA bettor in the world, makes millions. @haralabob on the tweeter machine
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          • tb1984
            SBR MVP
            • 09-11-08
            • 3112

            #6
            I believe that Mike in the nascar forum does sport-betting for living.
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            • nikossf
              SBR MVP
              • 03-02-10
              • 2217

              #7
              Its been very profitable at times for me. Haven't been broke since college days. I wouldn't go as far as to saying I am a professional because I do have a true 9-5er with bene's.. But regardless,..sports wagering has been a huge 2nd income for me. I would actually go as far as to saying sports HAS paid my mortgage several months these past 10+ years.
              Anyways,.the daily grind usually starts as soon as the lines are released the evening(s) before that day's games. Once most or all of the games are coming to close for one day im usually already grinding away for the next days games. This will continue usually late into most evenings.. Wake up early grind away on last minute numbers and updated injuries/weather etc..Place a few wagers.. Usually 3-5 for the morning games if any..or lines I really like for that evening.. then off to my 9-5.. Throughout the day,. Consistently RE-checking everything lines/weather/injuries/etc I have already been through that morning.. Always plus even to get updates and adjust accordingly. After this..I may make a few more wagers for the evening games. So back to the evening games...restart from step 1..checking games and stats/pitchers.weather/lines.. etc...for the next days games.. repeat steps. Day In and Day out.. Its a grind..IM HERE TO TELL YA!
              but if you have the patience to pick your spots,..find the right plays and not just play because the game is on.. and really have no biased opinions regardless of love/hate for players/teams.. study the info and read into what vegas is giving you.. Well,.there is money to be made. but in all reality..this really when I go back to repeating myself letting you know,..IN NO WAY WOULD I CONSIDER MYSELF A PROFESSIONAL.. I still need a 9-5..w/ bene's.. I guess peace of mind?...Hedging against myself? Not sure...but with gambling nothing is EVER 100%.. Study as much as you want...read the lines...do what you have to...in the end... Its still a coin flip most of the time...
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              • ProPicker713
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 12-15-10
                • 6788

                #8
                Originally posted by Vinnie Paz
                That masterp10 guy
                Mathdotcom

                Dont see either post anymore though.
                Maybe swimming with the fishes now, who knows.
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                • manny24
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-22-07
                  • 20046

                  #9
                  mathdotcom buried the board numerous times guy was a disgrace to gambling

                  kid was a real panty-dropper though looks wise

                  all bone to the knee also
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                  • offshore tyrant
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 12-19-12
                    • 86

                    #10
                    Almost impossible to do these days if you live in the states. Lines are all the same these days , real hard to move money around , and NO betting exchanges available for US customers. Without the use of betting exchanges i don't care what anyone says it's virtually impossible to be a winner long term. You need good numbers to be a winner in the long term and the gambling market stinks real bad right now and almost tinkering on terrible.
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                    • Big Bear
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 11-01-11
                      • 43253

                      #11
                      its a dream of mine.

                      it takes some brass balls, a decisive mind and a i dont a give a fukk attitude
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                      • tony_come
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-31-10
                        • 21695

                        #12
                        Collecting cans/bottles to recycle in Vegas $$$

                        I do well
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                        • Mitchell88
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-16-12
                          • 4334

                          #13
                          i think the real question here is how many say that they do it for a living and dont
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                          • SportsPedagogy
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-13-11
                            • 3691

                            #14
                            My grandpa made it on gambling alone... he was on the other side though
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                            • manny24
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-22-07
                              • 20046

                              #15
                              lvbound check in guey
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                              • pavyracer
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 04-12-07
                                • 82841

                                #16
                                I make it on gambling alone but I like going to work because I get bored gambling all day and making money.
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                                • 19th Hole
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 03-22-09
                                  • 18959

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                  I make it on gambling alone but I like going to work because I get bored gambling all day and making money.
                                  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

                                  Very impressive...
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                                  • greenhippo
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-15-12
                                    • 9091

                                    #18
                                    Is pavy the guy who dated the porn star but didn't know it?
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                                    • thes0vereign
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 02-13-12
                                      • 712

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by greenhippo
                                      Is pavy the guy who dated the porn star but didn't know it?
                                      Not exactly, but he is something of a legend.



                                      Also, mathdotcom admitted on more than one occasion that he was a TA at some elementary school. While he was trolling, I'm pretty sure there's a touch of truth to it
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                                      • GunShard
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 03-05-10
                                        • 10032

                                        #20
                                        My bankroll isn't large enough to make a living off of sports gambling. Until I get a larger bankroll.
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                                        • Ghenghis Kahn
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-02-12
                                          • 19734

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by greenhippo
                                          Is pavy the guy who dated the porn star but didn't know it?
                                          he married her.
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                                          • manny24
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-22-07
                                            • 20046

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                            he married her.

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                                            • maxvalue1
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 11-08-10
                                              • 350

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by nikossf
                                              Its been very profitable at times for me. Haven't been broke since college days. I wouldn't go as far as to saying I am a professional because I do have a true 9-5er with bene's.. But regardless,..sports wagering has been a huge 2nd income for me. I would actually go as far as to saying sports HAS paid my mortgage several months these past 10+ years.
                                              Anyways,.the daily grind usually starts as soon as the lines are released the evening(s) before that day's games. Once most or all of the games are coming to close for one day im usually already grinding away for the next days games. This will continue usually late into most evenings.. Wake up early grind away on last minute numbers and updated injuries/weather etc..Place a few wagers.. Usually 3-5 for the morning games if any..or lines I really like for that evening.. then off to my 9-5.. Throughout the day,. Consistently RE-checking everything lines/weather/injuries/etc I have already been through that morning.. Always plus even to get updates and adjust accordingly. After this..I may make a few more wagers for the evening games. So back to the evening games...restart from step 1..checking games and stats/pitchers.weather/lines.. etc...for the next days games.. repeat steps. Day In and Day out.. Its a grind..IM HERE TO TELL YA!
                                              but if you have the patience to pick your spots,..find the right plays and not just play because the game is on.. and really have no biased opinions regardless of love/hate for players/teams.. study the info and read into what vegas is giving you.. Well,.there is money to be made. but in all reality..this really when I go back to repeating myself letting you know,..IN NO WAY WOULD I CONSIDER MYSELF A PROFESSIONAL.. I still need a 9-5..w/ bene's.. I guess peace of mind?...Hedging against myself? Not sure...but with gambling nothing is EVER 100%.. Study as much as you want...read the lines...do what you have to...in the end... Its still a coin flip most of the time...
                                              Thanks for sharing ...very similar to what I also do ...would you mind sharing what websites you frequent to get up to date sports info.. injuries,weather, lines , etc. Thanks
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                                              • Inkwell77
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-03-11
                                                • 3227

                                                #24
                                                There are very very few that do in the US.

                                                Overseas is probably a very different story.

                                                Beating 20 cent vig (In Vegas or at these cookie cutter online garbage books like Bookmaker) is fukkin difficult
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                                                • Jayvegas420
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 03-09-11
                                                  • 28213

                                                  #25
                                                  I'm gonna try again but, the odds of success are drastically reduced because I am going to try to play in a W.S.O.P. event
                                                  Same bankroll but, 40% of my BR will surely be left at the Rio.
                                                  Still it's worth taking a shot.
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                                                  • Jayvegas420
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 03-09-11
                                                    • 28213

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Mitchell88
                                                    i think the real question here is how many say that they do it for a living and dont
                                                    I'd call myself a professional gambler, I'm just a very good one!

                                                    Originally posted by GunShard
                                                    My bankroll isn't large enough to make a living off of sports gambling. Until I get a larger bankroll.
                                                    I always wonder what people mean when they say this. If you hit 1st place in a huge poker tournament & you now have enough to enter 2 Tourneys a day for 20 years straight.... You can call yourself a professional poker player. You might never cash again but you are playing poker for your income.
                                                    I suppose if you hit the Power Ball you could say you are a professional lottery player. Anyway...
                                                    Point is, if you are doing it for a living, your starting BR shouldn't matter.
                                                    If you gave me $200,000.00 I probably wouldn't gamble ever again. At least not for a living. I wouldn't need to.
                                                    If you can manage your money properly we all know that you could have a $200,000.00 BR from $1.
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                                                    • BuddyBear
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                      • 7233

                                                      #27
                                                      Most gamblers have real big egos and don't like to admit failure. So you do not get many honest answers on here.

                                                      Basically everyone who gambles is a long-term loser. Is not it obvious by the sheer number of touts that most everyone who gambles is a loser? If you have a family, it's close to impossible. Perhaps if you are a single guy, willing to live in an apt forever and live very modestly at that, you might be able to make enough in a year to cover your basic expenses (e.g. rent, food, maybe a nice used car, maybe going to Applebees once a month, etc...).

                                                      But for the most part, everyone loses regardless of what they tell you. Take everything you read on here with a grain of salt.
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                                                      • Jayvegas420
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 03-09-11
                                                        • 28213

                                                        #28
                                                        I felt my Vegas thread was fairly transparent & honest.
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                                                        • newguy
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 12-27-09
                                                          • 6100

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                                          Most gamblers have real big egos and don't like to admit failure. So you do not get many honest answers on here.

                                                          Basically everyone who gambles is a long-term loser. Is not it obvious by the sheer number of touts that most everyone who gambles is a loser? If you have a family, it's close to impossible. Perhaps if you are a single guy, willing to live in an apt forever and live very modestly at that, you might be able to make enough in a year to cover your basic expenses (e.g. rent, food, maybe a nice used car, maybe going to Applebees once a month, etc...).

                                                          But for the most part, everyone loses regardless of what they tell you. Take everything you read on here with a grain of salt.
                                                          This. Know a few people who do it for a living. The ones I know make money on both sides of the transactions (book and betting). I have plenty of buddies who have tried. They do everything from tout to lie cheat and steal - don't start out that way but a real shame what gambling turned them into. Best money I ever made gambling was fading a buddy of mine. If I could have found a way to keep that going it was a no brainer but his ego got in way (kept losing too much and refused to keep giving me plays - thought I was getting buried)
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                                                          • LordVodka
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 08-17-09
                                                            • 5206

                                                            #30
                                                            I myself know that I can't win. Have I been up many times where I would profit? Sure. But I guess that's the problem. I am an addict and gamble for the high of it. I was up $9k earlier this year. Did I take out any of it? No. Lost it all. I was up $50k last year. Lost it all.
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                                                            • I/O
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 05-26-11
                                                              • 7922

                                                              #31
                                                              IMO real players that make a quality living gambling (I'm not just talking guys that make money doing it) aren't gonna put the time aside to bother with forums (like this place).

                                                              I've known of one. He didn't have the patience to deal with the IQ in the forums. His work ethic when it came to making his living far surpassed what goes on across the net.

                                                              I believe his handle was Nick. Use to post at Statfox, 15 or so years ago. Hands down, the best I've ever seen.
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                                                              • Big Bear
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 11-01-11
                                                                • 43253

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Smoke
                                                                Only one

                                                                Billy Walters

                                                                End of list
                                                                who the hell is that?
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388179

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Walters made his money illegally

                                                                  Not sports betting
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                                                                  • Smoke
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 10-09-09
                                                                    • 48111

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Billy is banned from casinos

                                                                    Billy has runners

                                                                    Billy moves the lines
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                                                                    • tony_come
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 03-31-10
                                                                      • 21695

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Billy takes Viagra
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