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  • Nicky Santoro
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    • 04-08-08
    • 16103

    #1
    A little gambling tip
    traps do exist, but only exist for the squares. Sharpies will pick off the trap, but not the squares.

    If NY Giants line is -2.5 at home, squares who see the NYG -2.5 at home don't know why that line is -2.5 and they think it's a gift from heaven, when it's not.. That line is 2.5 for a reason and squares will bet -2.5 on NYG at home thinking they got a great deal here and books fukked up.. this is a trap line. So if you see NYG -2.5 at home vs Texans, it's not a gift.. it's probably because books know that all the starters will only be playing 1 quarter, and will be resting rest of way.. so don't go nuts on it.

    Last Sunday's NE total going from 43 to 33.5 because of wind was not a trap line. The sharps were all over the under.. But when it's 1240 pm and squares see a 33.5, they will bet their whole bankroll on the over 33.5.. 13-0 final and wind blowing in each direction including missed FG's.. this was a trap line for the squares. A square never knows what a real line is.. that real line could have been 30.5, squares will never know.. so books make it 33.5, they know every square will still pound the over, so why make it 30.5.. When it looks too easy, it's because it is.. and that's what a trap line is..this is why you should bet small on those suspicious games..

    A quick advice to the squares..

    Whenever you see an easy line, don't think it's a free lunch, cause it's not.. there's a reason that line is 33.5.. you did not just outsmart the books.. you are NOT ahead of these linesmakers.. In fact, my advice is, if you see a really crazy line, like Zambrano at home vs Pirates and it's only -155, don't go nuts... Books probably know Lee and Ramirez are not starting and bullpen is tired. so you are not getting a good deal

    Just like yesterday when NHL outdoor game had total of 5.5.. everyone and their uncles thought they had an easy under win because of cold and snow.. but books knew the ice was in tremedous shape, not chippy, they knew weather would have no factor, and final was 6-4 and players got hurt on that.

    no such thing as an off line.. books are way way way ahead of you.. So boys, basically, in all seriousness, best advice i could give you is that if you see a really really easy line and you think it's free money, BET VERY SMALL ON IT CAUSE YOU'LL PROBABLY LOSE IT. books are only conning the square into betting a lot on it by tempting you with a good line.. all you will do is just balance their action from the sharps who are on the other side.

    remember, you have no advantage here..
  • fiveteamer
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    • 04-14-08
    • 10805

    #2
    Nicky did you make it pal?
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    • SlickFazzer
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      • 05-22-08
      • 20209

      #3
      Great info as always Nick
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      • UntilTheNDofTimE
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        • 05-29-08
        • 9285

        #4
        well said
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        • pimike
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          • 03-23-08
          • 37140

          #5
          Nickey









          THANKSSSSSSSSSS
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          • TPowell
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            • 02-21-08
            • 18842

            #6
            Nicky, you don't think that this exists in college basketball do you?
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            • pavyracer
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-12-07
              • 82893

              #7
              This has to be the biggest bologna I have ever read in my life. There are no trap lines for squares. There are winning bets and losing bets.
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              • VegasDave
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                • 01-03-07
                • 8056

                #8
                Nicky...

                Why not take it a step further? If you see a super easy line, instead of "only betting a small amount on it because you will probably lose", why not bet the other side of it? If the books are clearly trying to get you to take one side, doesn't it make sense to bet the other?
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                • TPowell
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                  • 02-21-08
                  • 18842

                  #9
                  just wondering how traps would be set in college basketball because most college basketball bettors are sharper than those of other sports from what I've been told and heard about
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                  • pimike
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                    • 03-23-08
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by VegasDave
                    Nicky...

                    Why not take it a step further? If you see a super easy line, instead of "only betting a small amount on it because you will probably lose", why not bet the other side of it? If the books are clearly trying to get you to take one side, doesn't it make sense to bet the other?
                    Davey nice call
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                    • Nicky Santoro
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                      • 04-08-08
                      • 16103

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TPowell
                      Nicky, you don't think that this exists in college basketball do you?
                      college baskets even more....There's guys that have people in campuses with the qb's and forwards and guards in baskets who sit with them during lunch, eats with them, mingles with them and finds out that QB has a fever of 103 and insists on playing, even though he is weak as hell.. finds out that starting all star forward is depressed and just been dumped by his GF..

                      this is info that moves the line big time, and squares have NO IDEA.. alot of research is put into these lines that squares have no idea about..
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                      • Nicky Santoro
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 04-08-08
                        • 16103

                        #12
                        Originally posted by VegasDave
                        Nicky...

                        Why not take it a step further? If you see a super easy line, instead of "only betting a small amount on it because you will probably lose", why not bet the other side of it? If the books are clearly trying to get you to take one side, doesn't it make sense to bet the other?
                        2 reasons.. 1- squares will NEVER do this.. they will not bet a game against their pick and worry, what if it loses, i will feel like an idiot.

                        2- not everyone sees the same offline.. if you see a weak line, doesn't mean patty sees the same weak line..
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                        • VegasDave
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                          • 01-03-07
                          • 8056

                          #13
                          Originally posted by pimike
                          Davey nice call
                          Thats what my philosophy picks are all about, I'm always on super shitty teams when no one else wants them.
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                          • TPowell
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-21-08
                            • 18842

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                            college baskets even more....There's guys that have people in campuses with the qb's and forwards and guards in baskets who sit with them during lunch, eats with them, mingles with them and finds out that QB has a fever of 103 and insists on playing, even though he is weak as hell.. finds out that starting all star forward is depressed and just been dumped by his GF..

                            this is info that moves the line big time, and squares have NO IDEA.. alot of research is put into these lines that squares have no idea about..

                            I'm sure this does exist to a certain degree but I still believe that if you give me a lined game in college basketball that I could at least partially explain why its like that. I think a lot of people neglect certain aspects of capping and end up thinking they got the best deal of their life because they missed valuable information. Nicky, that seems an awful lot like Casino to me
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                            • Chi_archie
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                              • 07-22-08
                              • 63172

                              #15
                              great stuff Nicky.... we need more mentoring from you.... thanks for all you do...

                              and may God Bless you mentoring...
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                              • VegasDave
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                                • 01-03-07
                                • 8056

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                2 reasons.. 1- squares will NEVER do this.. they will not bet a game against their pick and worry, what if it loses, i will feel like an idiot.

                                2- not everyone sees the same offline.. if you see a weak line, doesn't mean patty sees the same weak line..
                                So true. No worse feeling in the world then taking a side you whole heartedly disagree with and then watching as the side you "knew would win" kicks your ass. But long term, I'll take the bookie's judgment over my own.
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                                • Nicky Santoro
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 04-08-08
                                  • 16103

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                  great stuff Nicky.... we need more mentoring from you.... thanks for all you do...

                                  and may God Bless you mentoring...
                                  archie boy, you sounded like a priest there.. you sure you're not a priest..

                                  maybe i should call you Father Archibald from now..

                                  is this you archie?

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                                  • pimike
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                                    • 03-23-08
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                                    #18
                                    This is a good informative thread

                                    Keep fiveteamer out of it then serious gamblers may learn something.
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                                    • fiveteamer
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                                      • 04-14-08
                                      • 10805

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by pimike
                                      This is a good informative thread

                                      Keep fiveteamer out of it then serious gamblers may learn something.

                                      pimike, lend me $300 guy.
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                                      • The Seer
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                                        • 10-29-07
                                        • 10641

                                        #20
                                        is this soft ass tex tech line not a great example, how mnay squares do u think pounded the shit out of them today, i know plenty that thought that line was an easy bet, lol
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                                        • pimike
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                                          • 03-23-08
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by fiveteamer
                                          pimike, lend me $300 guy.
                                          No problem just pay CW back and you all set for a dime
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                                          • Chi_archie
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-22-08
                                            • 63172

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                            archie boy, you sounded like a priest there.. you sure you're not a priest..

                                            maybe i should call you Father Archibald from now..

                                            is this you archie?



                                            lol

                                            no Nick..... I just got a kick out of when JJ started saying God bless you...but hey... who doesn't need blessings... no harm in throwing em out there...


                                            May Bread bless you Nicky
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                                            • fiveteamer
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                                              • 04-14-08
                                              • 10805

                                              #23
                                              CW doesn't want my money.

                                              Do you want to try and collect from me?

                                              Bring you and your chins here pal, I'll wreck you.
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                                              • pimike
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                                                • 03-23-08
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                                                #24
                                                Hey Nickey,

                                                If I am understanding you advise GT is a loser here right?

                                                They are a 4.5 fav for the game, down 3 at half time, now 2nd half line is only 1.5, so they want you to think GT only needs to win great bet, yet its not. Am I right?
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                                                • rm18
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                                                  • 09-20-05
                                                  • 22291

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by pimike
                                                  Hey Nickey,

                                                  If I am understanding you advise GT is a loser here right?

                                                  They are a 4.5 fav for the game, down 3 at half time, now 2nd half line is only 1.5, so they want you to think GT only needs to win great bet, yet its not. Am I right?

                                                  4.5 point favorites down by 3 are always going to be 1.5 point favorites 2nd half, they could make it 3 or 4.5 since it crosses the 0 it is almost the same number

                                                  Tech has the advantage here because they get ball first
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                                                  • nosniboR11
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 09-02-08
                                                    • 10042

                                                    #26
                                                    Hey, Nicky you just pissed off all the smart bookies and vegas with this thread. Very good advice but what are the odds "squares" actually pick up on what your saying.

                                                    yes +145
                                                    no -800
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                                                    • frostno98
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                                                      • 09-11-07
                                                      • 9769

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                      This has to be the biggest bologna I have ever read in my life. There are no trap lines for squares. There are winning bets and losing bets.

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                                                      • pimike
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                                                        • 03-23-08
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by rm18
                                                        4.5 point favorites down by 3 are always going to be 1.5 point favorites 2nd half, they could make it 3 or 4.5 since it crosses the 0 it is almost the same number

                                                        Tech has the advantage here because they get ball first
                                                        Exactly so why not make them 3 second half.

                                                        I have seen game after game at 3 when a team is down 3 and there supposed to win.

                                                        I have sen lines -7 there down 2, they make the line 5 or 6 not 3.5.
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                                                        • Chi_archie
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 07-22-08
                                                          • 63172

                                                          #29
                                                          the lord told me take ole miss 2nd half...

                                                          and the under...


                                                          who am I to argue
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                                                          • InTheHole
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                                                            • 04-28-08
                                                            • 15243

                                                            #30
                                                            I usually bet the opposite when something looks too easy.
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                                                            • Chi_archie
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-22-08
                                                              • 63172

                                                              #31
                                                              ole miss puts too much pressure on graham cracker.... he hasn't seen any pressure from the big 12...
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                                                              • fiveteamer
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                                                                • 04-14-08
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                                                                #32
                                                                pimike, isn't it funny that you can see all that stuff, but can't even see your own penis?
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                                                                • pimike
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                                                                  • 03-23-08
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by InTheHole
                                                                  I usually bet the opposite when something looks too easy.
                                                                  There you go, This is exactly how I understood Nickey's Thread.

                                                                  I took Miss 2nd half +1.5, if I am am wrong on his and Dave's advise, then maybe i did it right by mistake.
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                                                                  • rm18
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                                                                    • 09-20-05
                                                                    • 22291

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by pimike
                                                                    Exactly so why not make them 3 second half.

                                                                    I have seen game after game at 3 when a team is down 3 and there supposed to win.

                                                                    I have sen lines -7 there down 2, they make the line 5 or 6 not 3.5.
                                                                    Some books had 3, I took -4 +125 from bodog. I just mean it should be obvious that 3 and 1.5 are almost the same number, because it can't land on 3 and can only land on 2 but that is unlikely.
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                                                                    • pavyracer
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 04-12-07
                                                                      • 82893

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by fiveteamer
                                                                      pimike, isn't it funny that you can see all that stuff, but can't even see your own penis?
                                                                      Watch your language. The gay police and RogueScholar will start issuing citations about attacking other posters.
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