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  • stevenash
    Moderator
    • 01-17-11
    • 65661

    #1
    I'm fading R.A Dickey tonight
    Here's why I like +172 in this spot.

    My spot plays with Masterson have been kind to me in the past.
    Who remembers that Indian game last year with Masterson when we had the Tribe @+190 and we got that 2 run homer in the ninth with two outs?

    1) No disrespect, I applaud his Cy Young award season last year, but I don't see him coming close to putting up those numbers again in the AL, and I think he returns to earth starting tonight.

    2) The whole world (here come the double entendre, pay attention now) seems to be on Dickey. 73 percent are on the Jays.
    (Did you catch the double entendre, win valuable prizes)

    3) Even though there isn't enough of a cross reference, Bourne when he was with the Braves hit R.A good, Swisher has taken him deep when the Mets played the Yankees.

    If Dickey's knuckle ball isn't fluttering, Indians will mash him.
    Santana and Swisher and Reynolds will crush a 70 MPH knuckle ball that doesn't dart.
    Plus I like the 9-1 speed combo of Stubbs hitting ninth and Bourne leading off.
    Like having back to back speed demons, As-Cab hits second tonight, then Kipnis, then Swisher, then Brantley, then Santana.
    Not murderers row, but a line up that score some runs.

    Here's the rub though, Joey Bats likes to hit Masterson, Masterson can not make a mistake to him.
    If he can fade Bautista for 4 at bats tonight, Jays will do limited damage.

    This play isn't for the squeamish, not forcing this play on anyone, fade or pass if you want.

    I like +172 here.

    YTD 2-1

    Hit the Astro play Sunday for +140
    Missed with the Marlins yesterday -100
    Hit the Cub play yesterday at +112

    YTD 2-1 +1.52 units

    Go get tonight fellas.
  • tatddy
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-02-10
    • 10779

    #2
    Good luck man. Got a good chance once the pens get involved. I don't see Masterson getting out of the 5th though...he's not in good form and a ground ball pitcher on turf not always a great setup. I think HOU is a better + bet today.

    I don't see +172 at any shops but if you can get it I think CLE def has a better win probability that that # indicates.
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    • stevenash
      Moderator
      • 01-17-11
      • 65661

      #3
      Originally posted by tatddy
      Good luck man. Got a good chance once the pens get involved. I don't see Masterson getting out of the 5th though...he's not in good form and a ground ball pitcher on turf not always a great setup. I think HOU is a better + bet today.

      I don't see +172 at any shops but if you can get it I think CLE def has a better win probability that that # indicates.
      Thanks.
      I got the 172 earlier, I'm seeing 160's now.

      Yeah, I am thinking Houston too, just a lean, not a play.

      I'm tempted on taking a little shot with the Korean kid in Dodger land too
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      • pavyracer
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 04-12-07
        • 82839

        #4
        Only way to fade Dickey tonight is if lakerboy is on him. Anyone seen his picks for today?
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        • tatddy
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 03-02-10
          • 10779

          #5
          Originally posted by stevenash
          Thanks.
          I got the 172 earlier, I'm seeing 160's now.

          Yeah, I am thinking Houston too, just a lean, not a play.

          I'm tempted on taking a little shot with the Korean kid in Dodger land too

          Dodgers probably win..but I never bet against the Giants. So I'm on under 7 in that game. Can't see why SF bats are gonna hit any lefties right now let alone someone unfamiliar.

          Harrell has been solid all spring and was lights out at home last year. Game is probably a low scoring 1 run game so can't hurt taking the + $ there. Haven't locked in that play yet though.
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          • BIGDAY
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 02-17-10
            • 48245

            #6
            GL. I like the OV.
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            • stevenash
              Moderator
              • 01-17-11
              • 65661

              #7
              Originally posted by BIGDAY
              GL. I like the OV.
              I am looking at the Brewer over.
              Their bats should go off tonight against that cheeseburger.
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              • BadLuckSanta
                SBR MVP
                • 06-30-10
                • 2756

                #8
                Great play steve.

                I'm shocked that R.A. is an opening day starter. He's going to get shelled tonight. Last season was a fluke and he won't come any where near replicating those numbers. Might win double digits game this year, that's about it.
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                • BIGDAY
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 02-17-10
                  • 48245

                  #9
                  Originally posted by stevenash
                  I am looking at the Brewer over.
                  Their bats should go off tonight against that cheeseburger.
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                  • Monchito
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-20-11
                    • 1928

                    #10
                    Betrayer
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                    • tatddy
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-02-10
                      • 10779

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BadLuckSanta
                      Great play steve.

                      I'm shocked that R.A. is an opening day starter. He's going to get shelled tonight. Last season was a fluke and he won't come any where near replicating those numbers. Might win double digits game this year, that's about it.
                      Just because Dickey is overvalued doesn't mean he's going to get shelled by the Indians. I'd feel much safer backing him than I would Masterson and an ailing back end of the CLE pen.

                      Worth a small play but nothing more.
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                      • Monitor-Tan
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-20-11
                        • 4460

                        #12
                        I think Colby Rasmus is the more dangerous hitter tonight then Joey Bats.

                        GL tonight Nasher
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                        • konck
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 10-17-06
                          • 12554

                          #13
                          I know your chasing a price and theres a lot of players drooling to fade Dickey thinking 1 year wonder.
                          But this guy is for real I bet him almost every game last year he even got passed most of Brocks mushes.
                          He is awesome indoors really hard to beat. The times to fade Dickey is in cold or bad weather 100%.
                          He took the knuckler to a new level he will be tough the rest of his career how ever long that is
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                          • konck
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 10-17-06
                            • 12554

                            #14
                            And BTW Dickey's knuckler hits 82/83 once in a while thats the new face he put on that pitch.
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                            • stevenash
                              Moderator
                              • 01-17-11
                              • 65661

                              #15
                              Originally posted by konck
                              I know your chasing a price and theres a lot of players drooling to fade Dickey thinking 1 year wonder.
                              73 percent of the money is Jay money.
                              Listen, it's a play not for the squeamish, and you know I welcome respectful faders.
                              I like the Tribe in this spot.

                              Who you on tonight Koncker?
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                              • 19th Hole
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-22-09
                                • 18954

                                #16
                                Steve Nash
                                As always...A well-reasoned selection with plenty of value.
                                Good Luck on your play


                                I'm agreeing more on the Brew-Crew over.
                                Their bats came alive late yesterday
                                and should continue hot vs de la Rosa.
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                                • Untied
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-27-11
                                  • 1294

                                  #17
                                  I don't like Dickey myself, but it's tough going against the B. Jays.

                                  GL
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                                  • sportsguy04
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-21-08
                                    • 11885

                                    #18
                                    Cleveland +1.5 (-130) looks real nice~
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                                    • tatddy
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-02-10
                                      • 10779

                                      #19
                                      Nasher take 'em FF as well at least.
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                                      • OMGRandyJackson
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-07-10
                                        • 1680

                                        #20
                                        At least someone fading Dickey finally wrote up a nice reason for why they are fading him. Getting really sick of everyone yelling FADE DICKEY HE WONT BE WHAT HE WAS LAST YEAR...

                                        I dont get why so many people are on this game, it seems more of a skip to me. What if Dickey does get hit? So what, I think masterson has an even greater chance of getting hit, so if they get 4 or 5 runs off Dickey, the Jays can easily reply with 7 or 8 of their own.
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                                        • stevenash
                                          Moderator
                                          • 01-17-11
                                          • 65661

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by tatddy
                                          Nasher take 'em FF as well at least.
                                          *adding*

                                          This goes as a documented play

                                          172387059-1 4/2/13 5:35pm $100.00 $105.00 Pending 4/2/13 7:05pm MLB Baseball 959 Cleveland Indians 1st 5 Innings +½ +105* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Toronto Blue Jays (J Masterson - R must Start R Dickey - R must Start)
                                          Even if it's 2-2 or 1-1 after five, I get paid

                                          Adding +1/2 run +105 for 1* as well
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                                          • stevenash
                                            Moderator
                                            • 01-17-11
                                            • 65661

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by OMGRandyJackson
                                            At least someone fading Dickey finally wrote up a nice reason for why they are fading him. Getting really sick of everyone yelling FADE DICKEY HE WONT BE WHAT HE WAS LAST YEAR...

                                            One more reason, Dickey was getting hit in September as the season closed.
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                                            • face
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-31-11
                                              • 14740

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by stevenash

                                              If Dickey's knuckle ball isn't fluttering, Indians will mash him.
                                              and if it is fluttering the indians will hit him?
                                              respectfully fading this one, dickey is the man. plus encarnacion and the blue jays will beat up on masterson.
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                                              • stevenash
                                                Moderator
                                                • 01-17-11
                                                • 65661

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by face
                                                and if it is fluttering the indians will hit him?
                                                respectfully fading this one, dickey is the man. plus encarnacion and the blue jays will beat up on masterson.
                                                All good Face
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                                                • Madison
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-16-11
                                                  • 6455

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by konck
                                                  I know your chasing a price and theres a lot of players drooling to fade Dickey thinking 1 year wonder.
                                                  But this guy is for real I bet him almost every game last year he even got passed most of Brocks mushes.
                                                  He is awesome indoors really hard to beat. The times to fade Dickey is in cold or bad weather 100%.
                                                  He took the knuckler to a new level he will be tough the rest of his career how ever long that is
                                                  I kind of agree here. I'm most worried about the unfamiliar aspect. Gotta think that's to the pitchers early advantage.
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                                                  • Russinat
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 07-27-09
                                                    • 136

                                                    #26
                                                    Steve, your one of the posters I usually tail. I'm going 4 units on the Jays -1.5 as think there will be energy with all the new adds in Toronto that isn't typical from north of the border baseball fans and thinking the Jays will go deep a couple of times. If Masterson can keep the ball down, then I'm in trouble.
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                                                    • stevenash
                                                      Moderator
                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 65661

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Russinat
                                                      Steve, your one of the posters I usually tail. I'm going 4 units on the Jays -1.5 as think there will be energy with all the new adds in Toronto that isn't typical from north of the border baseball fans and thinking the Jays will go deep a couple of times. If Masterson can keep the ball down, then I'm in trouble.
                                                      Well here's the good news, if I lose, you win.

                                                      Best of luck
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                                                      • BigDeem5
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 02-26-11
                                                        • 17191

                                                        #28
                                                        I am amped to watch my Indians open up, lets cash these Nash
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                                                        • BigDeem5
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 02-26-11
                                                          • 17191

                                                          #29
                                                          Just put 2u in on Blue Jays TT Under 4.5...

                                                          I see Masterson coming out and pitching well, the guy battles even if his stuff isn't on.
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                                                          • rfr3sh
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 11-07-09
                                                            • 10229

                                                            #30
                                                            where did you get your %s from
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                                                            • NOboy
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 11-16-11
                                                              • 235

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by BigDeem5
                                                              Just put 2u in on Blue Jays TT Under 4.5...

                                                              I see Masterson coming out and pitching well, the guy battles even if his stuff isn't on.
                                                              i had to fade you on this...cleveland has given up 5 runs dating back to 01 with the 2 exceptions being 05 and 02. and jays the past 4-5 years has scored 5+ runs on opening day
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                                                              • EXhoosier10
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 07-06-09
                                                                • 3122

                                                                #32
                                                                like this play, steve. I had to pull the trigger at +175 earlier today.
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                                                                • stevenash
                                                                  Moderator
                                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                                  • 65661

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by rfr3sh
                                                                  where did you get your %s from
                                                                  Tons of places, covers, oddshark, the spread
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                                                                  • itchypickle
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 11-05-09
                                                                    • 21452

                                                                    #34
                                                                    As long as the bats light up after the 6th Inning I'm pulling for ya pal.

                                                                    On the Under early
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                                                                    • rfr3sh
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-07-09
                                                                      • 10229

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                      Tons of places, covers, oddshark, the spread
                                                                      I see on pregame and sportsoptions that the %s are different
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