The Ravens backers just got screwed!

[robmpink]

ya he even got the ball over the line

What is funny is we are all a bunch of gambling fools, but you have an ex qb and the other announcer who were oblivious to what the rules are. This was already mentioned by the Slew fellow here.

[ipickwinners]

ppl will come up with any excuse if they lose a bet

[BigMoney]

Touchdown

All the ball has to do is break the plain and he had 2 feet in and the ball broke the plain that is a TD.....
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[Seattle Slew]

This is what I was thinking. Like a fade pass where the guy gets two feet, yet the ball lands out of bounds as the player falls.

any of u saying its not a TD because the ball never went in, what happens when a WR catches the ball and just gets his two feet in and the all is out of bounds when he catches? u guys r not thinking

[ipickwinners]

o all NFL announcers r complete idiots, there is not one intelligent NFL commentator

[ipickwinners]

all the ppl who r saying it was no TD is ppl who lost money

[Seattle Slew]

These two also did the Raiders-Pats and Simms had no idea about the tuck rule.

What is funny is we are all a bunch of gambling fools, but you have an ex qb and the other announcer who were oblivious to what the rules are. This was already mentioned by the Slew fellow here.

[robmpink]

See, no one is using their brain here. Everyone says the ball has to break the line. Yes in 99.9% of the time, that is it. Under these circumstances, the guys feet were in, hence it was a td. You could debate as to whether the ball crossed the line. Most cases the ball is going forward. In this case, the player was already there, two feet in.

I had the Ravens 2nd half and I don't feel ripped off, by the refs that it. The rookie qb, I hope he learns from blowing this game.

[ipickwinners]

love how once someone explains how it was a TD all the cry babies go under their covers and ask for their mommy lol

[robmpink]

love how once someone explains how it was a TD all the cry babies go under their covers and ask for their mommy lol

You really can't blame them after listening to the announcers.
Anywho, just another NFL Sunday.

[ipickwinners]

sure i can, ppl dont know by now announcers dont know half the stuff they r talking about??

yo how about that blow call the refs made on that 3rd and short and they said the call would stand?? total BS....stelelers were lucky to get to the line of scrimmage

[fishsteel]

Ravens deserve to lose for playing pissst poor defense in that final drive, after dominating the entire game.

What game were you watching. Look at the stats.

That game was as even as you get. It came down to turnovers and who wanted it more.

[ipickwinners]

and the fact that flacco played like horse shit....22 QB rating

[ipickwinners]

sorry 22.2

[element1286]

What game were you watching. Look at the stats.

That game was as even as you get. It came down to turnovers and who wanted it more.

The defense couldn't hold when it counted, thus they deserved to lose.

[whoatommy]

the nfl and the refs can make up any rules they want....doesnt make any ****ing sense for it to be a touchdown if the feet are in and not the ball then on the other way around it's a touchdown if the ball crosses the goal line. it's a load of bull shit.

[laxdjock]

any of u saying its not a TD because the ball never went in, what happens when a WR catches the ball and just gets his two feet in and the all is out of bounds when he catches? u guys r not thinking

You are not thinking.

Breaking the plane is the 1st req. of a score (including pylon). This use to be an issue of an infinite horizontal plane, which was then clarified with the pylon placement. The 2nd req. is possession of the ball. The 3rd req. is 2 ft/qualifying body part.

Holmes did meet 2 and 3 until the ball was outside of the plane. It cannot be confirmed as breaking the plane without possession.

[frostno98]

No INDISPUTABLE evidence!!! ravens got scammed bigtime, what a bullsh*t call to reverse that, put it at the inches and let the fu(king players end the game!!

I agree with you 100%, they did not rule a TD on tht play and the replay it was iffy at best.

[whoatommy]

Who gives a F? The Ravens deserve to lose because of their rookie qb taking a sack at a bad time. Because of his lack of awareness, they lost this game. They most likely would have gone up by 6, but now they will lose. Blame no one but Flacco and not the refs.

You can't blame just flacco....the QB can play bad as long as the defense plays really well for them which is the case...the D kept them in this game

[ipickwinners]

soo when randy moss catches the ball on the side of the endzone and has two feet in bounds, but catches the ball out of the endzone and its a catch, it should not be ruled a catch, because he never had possesion of the ball with the ball in the endzone. pal just stop, it was a TD

[whoatommy]

I was on Baltimore.. and that WAS a TD!!

congrats to all the pittsburgh backers!!



Robust

I was on Pitt and the ball never cross the goal line....not a TD.

Unless the refs write another page into their rule book and say that it is.

[masr]

The refs gave the game to pitt...
NFL sucks.....
college wagering is the way to go...except the MAC

do the MAC refs work in the NFL?

[ipickwinners]

the nfl and the refs can make up any rules they want....doesnt make any ****ing sense for it to be a touchdown if the feet are in and not the ball then on the other way around it's a touchdown if the ball crosses the goal line. it's a load of bull shit.

this was and easy TD call, quit crying

[ipickwinners]

The refs gave the game to pitt...
NFL sucks.....
college wagering is the way to go...except the MAC

do the MAC refs work in the NFL?

this was a easy TD call

[dwaechte]

The NBC Sunday night crew thinks it needs to break the plane... I'm going to go with them, since they wouldve had time to research it. Harbaugh also said that the sidejudge told him it needed to cross the plane.

So, all you guys saying it doesnt need to break the plane might want to start being a little less dickish.

[Skanless1]

call or not, this game is EXACTLY why i've been saying balt. won't do anything in the playoffs, whilie pitt is showing they can win big and close/tough games.

[ipickwinners]

those guys have no idea what they r talking about, easy TD

[laxdjock]

soo when randy moss catches the ball on the side of the endzone and has two feet in bounds, but catches the ball out of the endzone and its a catch, it should not be ruled a catch, because he never had possesion of the ball with the ball in the endzone. pal just stop, it was a TD

"In the endzone" by definition is breaking the plane. The issue is that the ball doesn't break THE PLANE with possession in the BAL game, the ball breaks THE PLANE when [Randy] catches it on the side of the endzone because it is across the goaline.

I'm sorry you are slow...please re-read what I wrote, and feel free to not try and argue a losing point.

From the NFL Rulebook:

The goal line is actually in the end zone. A player with the ball in his possession scores a touchdown when the ball is on, above, or over the goal line.

SOURCE: http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/field

So if the ball is not controlled across the goal line (which by definition is the end zone).....then the player cannot score a TD.

[jjgold]

Right call was made

Nice work benny

[element1286]

Don't give up the 93 yard drive and this wouldn't be an issue. It would have been a tough call either way, and someone was going to get screwed either way. If you leave it up to one guys opinion, then unexpected things happen.

[ipickwinners]

no ur not understanding what im saying... where he catches the ball is out of bounds. they no longer have the rule that the goal line extends past the pilones. either way it doesnt matter, the ball did cross te goal line and he did have both feet in so its a TD, easy call

[dwaechte]

no ur not understanding what im saying... where he catches the ball is out of bounds. they no longer have the rule that the goal line extends past the pilones. either way it doesnt matter, the ball did cross te goal line and he did have both feet in so its a TD, easy call

Youre an idiot. Or rather, anyone who thinks that was an "easy call" is an idiot. I'm not going to say they definitely got it wrong, but saying it was an easy call

[ipickwinners]

ball crossed the goal line with possesion,what else u need to know?

[laxdjock]

ipickwinners....can you say, "with indisputable video evidence, that it was a score"?.....because that is the requirement to overturn a play called on the field. It wasn't an "easy call", because there is still doubt in the call, therefore it shouldn't have been overturned.....therefore it shouldn't be a touchdown.

[ipickwinners]

in my opinion yes it was, possesion and ball crossed the goal line.....tip of the ball needs to go 1 cm over the 1st part of the goal line, and it did that. easy TD