Marcus Allen Was The Greatest And Most Versatile Running Back In NFL History

The Giant · 03-06-13, 11:41 PM

Why did Al Davis hate him? Anyone know?

PhillyFlyers · 03-06-13, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by The Giant

Why did Al Davis hate him? Anyone know?

Yes.

It was because that Al thought that Marcus was actually becoming bigger than the Raiders.

The Giant · 03-06-13, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by PhillyFlyers

Yes.

It was because that Al thought that Marcus was actually becoming bigger than the Raiders.

There has to be more to it than that.

Vegas39 · 03-06-13, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by The Giant

There has to be more to it than that.

Nfl network did a documentary withn Marcus. He stated he was really at a loss where the hatred came from. .

PhillyFlyers · 03-06-13, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by The Giant

There has to be more to it than that.

Not really believe it or not.

Al thought that no one should ever be bigger than the Raiders. Not even other NFL teams.

Allen was generating so much publicity after he led the Raiders to the Super Bowl in 83 it actually made big Al jealous.

Al had Marcus benched and relegated to fullback duties during one period, and he wasn't used that much and yet Marcus still won the Raiders team MVP award, as voted only by the players themselves, year after year.

Basically, it boiled down to jealousy.

RS1702 · 03-06-13, 11:56 PM

Obviously you've never seen Jim Brown play.

InTheDrink · 03-07-13, 12:01 AM

anyone who can get 75% of these is an nfl expert

NFL All-time Reception Leaders among Running Backs

http://www.sporcle.com/games/rkelly8686/nfl-reception-leaders-among-running-backs

Can you name the NFL All-time Reception Leaders among Running Backs?

and the real answer is marshall faulk

The Kraken · 03-07-13, 12:17 AM

Well history isn't over yet so lets reserve rash conclusions. I'll cast my vote closer to the end.

pulledclear · 03-07-13, 12:23 AM

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What a dck head!

pulledclear · 03-07-13, 12:27 AM

Admiral Bird said the same thing about Knute Rockne.

Fckn retard.

Deuce · 03-07-13, 12:39 AM

Barry Sanders doesn't think so.

PhillyFlyers · 03-07-13, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by Deuce

Barry Sanders doesn't think so.

Barry Sanders never played fullback or quarterback and never threw a touchdown pass.

MUHerd37 · 03-07-13, 01:55 AM

Barry Sanders is right

ttwarrior1 · 03-07-13, 03:01 AM

bo jackson sat that crybaby down to the bench, marcus could only take 1 hit , thats why he ended up goaline because after 1 yard he was toast

slacker00 · 03-07-13, 09:39 AM

1. Jim Brown
2. Walter Payton
3. Emmitt Smith
4. Marshall Faulk
5. Barry Sanders
6. LaDainian Tomlinson
7. Marcus Allen

will2survive · 03-07-13, 10:09 AM

He's a murderer, but O.J. Simpson was GREAT- His name should always be mentioned. That said, Jim Brown is the best running back ever and best Lacrosse player ever--end of discussion

Mitchell88 · 03-07-13, 10:14 AM

walter payton #1

TheMoneyShot · 03-07-13, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by slacker00

1. Jim Brown
2. Walter Payton
3. Emmitt Smith
4. Marshall Faulk
5. Barry Sanders
6. LaDainian Tomlinson
7. Marcus Allen

I like the list... but Barry Sanders should be 3rd. Then Smith Faulk and so on.

If Barry Sanders ever played on a team that could throw and open up the run game... he'd be lights out. Lions couldn't figure how to do it. Aikman Smith combo was deadly....

PhillyFlyers · 03-07-13, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by slacker00

1. Jim Brown
2. Walter Payton
3. Emmitt Smith
4. Marshall Faulk
5. Barry Sanders
6. LaDainian Tomlinson
7. Marcus Allen

None of these cats was as versatile as Marcus and LOL@Tomlinson and Faulk ahead of Marcus.

marcoloco · 03-07-13, 11:22 AM

Faulk was pretty versatile also. I remember him kicking an extra point 1 game too lol

PhillyFlyers · 03-07-13, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by marcoloco

Faulk was pretty versatile also. I remember him kicking an extra point 1 game too lol

Yeah he was pretty versatile but he couldn't block for shit and never played fullback which Marcus did.

SamDiamond · 03-07-13, 11:25 AM

Marcus Allen isnt worthy of wiping the sweat off of Walter Payton's nutsack.

You want TD passes? Payton threw 8 of them. 2 more than Allen.

And Payton played on Bears team that were awful, with the exception of 1985 of course.

PhillyFlyers · 03-07-13, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by SamDiamond

Marcus Allen isnt worthy of wiping the sweat off of Walter Payton's nutsack.

You want TD passes? Payton threw 8 of them. 2 more than Allen.

And Payton played on Bears team that were awful, with the exception of 1985 of course.

Marcus played QB, RB, FB, TE, WR at various points in his career. Marcus was the FIRST PLAYER IN NFL HISTORY with more than 10,000 yards rushing and 5,000 yards receiving.

Marcus still holds these records:

Consecutive seasons with multiple touchdowns: 16 - (tied with Irving Fryar)
Consecutive seasons with a rushing touchdown: 16
Consecutive seasons with multiple rushing touchdowns: 16
Oldest player to score 10+ touchdowns in a season: 37 years old

In short, Marcus takes a piss on Payton as far as being a complete football player.

bobby heenan · 03-07-13, 01:02 PM

faulk was the man...kevin faulk

SamDiamond · 03-07-13, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by PhillyFlyers

Marcus played QB, RB, FB, TE, WR at various points in his career. Marcus was the FIRST PLAYER IN NFL HISTORY with more than 10,000 yards rushing and 5,000 yards receiving.

Marcus still holds these records:

Consecutive seasons with multiple touchdowns: 16 - (tied with Irving Fryar)
Consecutive seasons with a rushing touchdown: 16
Consecutive seasons with multiple rushing touchdowns: 16
Oldest player to score 10+ touchdowns in a season: 37 years old

In short, Marcus takes a piss on Payton as far as being a complete football player.

That's because Payton finished with 4538 yards receiving.

How's this one.

Payton is the ONLY player to finish with more than 15000 yards rushing, and 4000 yards receiving..

Allen didnt come close to that.

It's funny. Allen played until he was 37 years old, yet it is Walter Payton that holds the NFL record for most All-Purpose yards.

Hmmm, let that sink in. Allen played longer. Yet, Payton has more yards from scrimmage.

Payton APY: 21803
Allen APY: 17654

PhillyFlyers · 03-07-13, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by SamDiamond

That's because Payton finished with 4538 yards receiving.

How's this one.

Payton is the ONLY player to finish with more than 15000 yards rushing, and 4000 yards receiving..

Allen didnt come close to that.

It's funny. Allen played until he was 37 years old, yet it is Walter Payton that holds the NFL record for most All-Purpose yards.

Hmmm, let that sink in. Allen played longer. Yet, Payton has more yards from scrimmage.

Payton APY: 21803
Allen APY: 17654

Payton couldn't hold a candle to Allen in terms of versatility. That's a fact not opinion. You say Allen played longer than Payton but the fact is there was 2-3 year period where Allen wasn't even used that much because big Al was jealous of him. For example, in 1989 Allen started only 5 games and in 1991 he only started 2. Despite this, Allen still has more career total touchdowns than Payton does, 144 to Payton's 125. Allen has more receiving yards than Payton as well, 5,411 to Payton's 4,538.

Allen also has more career rushing touchdowns, a better receiving yards per game average, more receiving touchdowns, and the better single best season yards from scrimmage 2314 to 2121 despite playing multiple positions.

YouMama · 03-07-13, 02:22 PM

allen and faulk definatly... they played in the 80's-90's time period... that in-between era where the rules of the old timers were still in place in combo with 99% of the guys all jacked up on roids

before that, the game was slower and bodies were softer ... now a days, everyone is 260 lbs, 4% body fat, running the 40 in 4.2 secs... but you cant tap anyone any other place then the center of the chest, or you get a 15 yard flag and a 50k fine

slacker00 · 03-08-13, 07:29 AM

Originally posted by PhillyFlyers

None of these cats was as versatile as Marcus and LOL@Tomlinson and Faulk ahead of Marcus.

Versatile at fumbling. Marcus Allen had 65 fumbles. (LT had 30 and Marshall Faulk had 36.)

Faulk has more rush and rec yards, YPG etc. LT has more TDs, total yds and even more passing TDs with no ints.

PhillyFlyers · 03-08-13, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by slacker00

Versatile at fumbling. Marcus Allen had 65 fumbles. (LT had 30 and Marshall Faulk had 36.)

Faulk has more rush and rec yards, YPG etc. LT has more TDs, total yds and even more passing TDs with no ints.

Faulk couldn't and never did play TE, FB, or QB. LT never led his team to a Super Bowl victory and has less Pro Bowl appearances.

Goat Milk · 03-08-13, 04:26 PM

Tomlinson had the greatest season by an NFL running back in history.

No season by an RB comes close, or ever will.

PhillyFlyers · 03-08-13, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Tomlinson had the greatest season by an NFL running back in history.

No season by an RB comes close, or ever will.

One season doesn't make a career and Tomlinson never led his team to a Super Bowl. Marcus did.

Goat Milk · 03-08-13, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by PhillyFlyers

One season doesn't make a career and Tomlinson never led his team to a Super Bowl. Marcus did.

Tomlinson was in a conference with 2 of the top 4 qbs in nfl history. you can only do so much as an rb. peterson hasn't led a team to the superbowl. when peterson retires, he will be a top 4 rb of all time, even if he doesn't win a ring.

PhillyFlyers · 03-08-13, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Tomlinson was in a conference with 2 of the top 4 qbs in nfl history. you can only do so much as an rb. peterson hasn't led a team to the superbowl. when peterson retires, he will be a top 4 rb of all time, even if he doesn't win a ring.

Allen played against Elway, Fouts, Marino, Esiason, and his era included Montana, Simms, Danny White, and Joe Theismann.

Goat Milk · 03-08-13, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by PhillyFlyers

Allen played against Elway, Fouts, Marino, Esiason, and his era included Montana, Simms, Danny White, and Joe Theismann.

There's only 1 guy on that list arguably better than Manning and Brady and that's Montana. Anyway Tomlinson played way less years than your boy allen and i'im pretty sure he has him beat in tds, yards, you name it. Rex Ryan fukkin ruined Tomlinson's legacy. Everyone just skips over LT. Guy was a workhorse in both running and passing game. Him and Faulk are the best two rb wide outs of all time. Only difference was Faulk played with a bunch of hall of famers and some of the best offensive weapons in history.