Alex Smith to the Chiefs/Smart or Dumb/.
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BcatswinSBR Posting Legend
- 12-21-10
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#1Alex Smith to the Chiefs/Smart or Dumb/.Tags: None -
TankHankerousSBR MVP
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#2Football's over guy.Comment -
BcatswinSBR Posting Legend
- 12-21-10
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#3Football never over, still covered non stop.Originally posted by TankHankerousFootball's over guy.
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TankHankerousSBR MVP
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#4We get it, you're a huge football fan.Comment -
BigDeem5SBR Posting Legend
- 02-26-11
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#5Better than cassel.Comment -
ChalkyDogSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-02-11
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#6Fukking laughable right now.
If they can turn around and get something for Cassel, it would be better, but this is a goddamn abomination right now.Comment -
BcatswinSBR Posting Legend
- 12-21-10
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#7More of a Baseball fan. What now?Originally posted by TankHankerousWe get it, you're a huge football fan.Comment -
BcatswinSBR Posting Legend
- 12-21-10
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#8Originally posted by ChalkyDogFukking laughable right now.
If they can turn around and get something for Cassel, it would be better, but this is a goddamn abomination right now.
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ChalkyDogSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-02-11
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#9I am not a KC fan, don't really care, but I am just mind fukked about the business of this deal.Originally posted by Bcatswin
Alex Smith is a Cassel Clone. Cassel is insanely overpaid as is. Then they turned around, and gave away too much for another Matt Cassel with slightly more hype. Smith was a disaster before Harbaugh. Unless Reid can work magic with Smith (why couldn't he do the same with Matt?), this seems like a terrible decision.
Too many resources in a position thats only job is to turn around and hand it off. God knows you aren't paying these guys for their ability to make a play with their arm.Comment -
BcatswinSBR Posting Legend
- 12-21-10
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#10Totally agree with you Chalky, its mind boggling.Comment -
ramones951SBR MVP
- 12-23-08
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#11Alex Smith is way better than Cassel. This is a huge upgrade for them. Cassel is horrible.Comment -
MoneyLineDawgSBR Posting Legend
- 01-01-09
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#12Alex Smith for a 4th or 5th round pick.....good deal
But they traded the 2nd pick in the 2nd round (34th overall) and another high pick next season.....
SF jumped on this deal instead of waiting because they know they raped the ChiefsComment -
Brock LandersSBR Aristocracy
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#13Upgrade over anything they had or could draftComment -
stikymessSBR MVP
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#14I sure they could sucker Arizona into a Cassel deal, they love over paying for Qb'sComment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#15^
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mr. leisureSBR Posting Legend
- 01-29-08
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#16When you have cassell and brady quinn you are desperateComment -
MrPlow456SBR Rookie
- 10-16-12
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#17This. Entirely this. The last person to do this much damage to a collection of chiefs was Andrew Jackson.Originally posted by MoneyLineDawgAlex Smith for a 4th or 5th round pick.....good deal
But they traded the 2nd pick in the 2nd round (34th overall) and another high pick next season.....
SF jumped on this deal instead of waiting because they know they raped the ChiefsComment -
Easy-Rider 66BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 02-14-12
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#18And when Matt Barkely and Geno Smith are the top rated QB's in the draft, you do not have many options. Have to think some other teams were bidding for Smith as well.Originally posted by mr. leisureWhen you have cassell and brady quinn you are desperateComment -
EASportsSBR Wise Guy
- 02-13-13
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#19This has Andy Ried's lack of front office acumen written all over it. Doesnt value the draft, yet needs to develop a QB for the future.
49ers did Smith a favor benching him. It only made Smith's value skyrocket into misinterpretations of his actual skill level. Smith will probably escape with another contract, yet underachieve with an unarguably leser coach in Reid.
Its amazing how the NFL has the best athletes the world has to offer, yet has to recycle shitty QB's non-stop.Comment -
BcatswinSBR Posting Legend
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#20Sort of reminds me of the Raiders dumb trade for Palmer.Comment -
EASportsSBR Wise Guy
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#21That trade was done by a nostalgic head coach who had previously worked with Palmer, when he was a top tier QB. Only to have Palmer play some of the worst football in the history of Raiders franchise and lead to the change over of the whole coaching staff. Ried is just scared of drafting a QB, who if fails Ried would recieve criticism and be fired. Bringing over Smith is a safe move. Since he is already under contract and if fails Smith would just become what we all know he is, a backup QB.Originally posted by BcatswinSort of reminds me of the Raiders dumb trade for Palmer.Comment -
ROYAJA8SBR MVP
- 10-23-09
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#22Great upgrade for the chiefs. Smith has skills and will get to display them with a coach like Reid who lets his qb actually throw more than they run. Smith has a chip on his shoulders for being benched and will have a great year.Comment -
ramones951SBR MVP
- 12-23-08
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#23You gotta do what's necessary in this league. To everyone that's saying he's not worth a 2nd round pick, what were the Chiefs supposed to do this season? By making this trade they get a proven starting QB and they still have the #1 overall pick to upgrade elsewhere. Do you really think rolling with Cassel again this season would be the smart move because you get to keep the 33rd overall pick? Hell no... Don't be so quick to overreact.
This team was a playoff team just a couple seasons ago. And now with Smith and potentially Joeckel to protect him, plus a back-to-normal Jamaal Charles, they could be looking at a wildcard berth. I absolutely love this trade for the Chiefs as well as the 49ers. Both will benefit.Comment -
BigdaddyQHSBR Posting Legend
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#24The Chiefs get a decent QB, but much more importantly, the best LT and player in the draft in Joeckel. San Fran will not be returning to the Super Bowl next season. Losers never do.Comment -
YouMamaSBR Wise Guy
- 01-04-12
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#25who else were they gonna get? smith is = geno or barkley ... Im not a huge smith fan, I would rather have colt mccoy, but there options were kind of limitedComment -
Louisvillekid1SBR Aristocracy
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#26PLayoff team this yearComment -
spankieSBR Hall of Famer- 02-10-11
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#27I guess the first thing i'd like to know is...
Is Alex Smith a good person or a bad person?Comment -
ramones951SBR MVP
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#28It's actually happened seven times.Originally posted by BigdaddyQHSan Fran will not be returning to the Super Bowl next season. Losers never do.
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vyomguySBR Hall of Famer
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#29Say that to dallas cowboys. 49ers have a good shot at making the superbowl again.Originally posted by BigdaddyQHSan Fran will not be returning to the Super Bowl next season. Losers never do.Comment -
vyomguySBR Hall of Famer
- 12-08-09
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#30apparently, arizona was willing to give their 1st round pick. But 49ers didnt want to trade him to a division rival. So, chiefs had to give up their 2nd round pick this year and 3rd round pick next year.
Chiefs had no choice...it was a bidding war.Comment -
thechaozSBR Posting Legend
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#31Ninaz cleaning up in Draft this yearComment -
k13SBR Posting Legend
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#32Bills say Hi.Originally posted by BigdaddyQHThe Chiefs get a decent QB, but much more importantly, the best LT and player in the draft in Joeckel. San Fran will not be returning to the Super Bowl next season. Losers never do.Comment -
El NinoSBR Posting Legend
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#33Just happy the Cardinals didn't get him.Comment -
MoneyLineDawgSBR Posting Legend
- 01-01-09
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#34
@ a bidding war for Alex Smith......Guy is decent but the 49ers have the best team in the league around the QB, its pretty damn easy to look good on that team with the great O-line/ running game, solid weapons, and a shutdown defense, not to mention a great coaching staff.....Alex Smith will probably be decent but gimmie a break, there's a reason why Chiefs fans are not happy with the compensation.....If it was just one 3rd round pick that would have been about right, but whatever
And yes a late 1st round pick (essentially) and a high pick next year is way too much for a serviceable QB.....Comment -
McBa1nSBR MVP
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#35Am I the only one scratching my head if the reported trade is indeed correct? A 2nd rounder and a conditional 3rd? I know we won't know the details until the league year starts in March, but um - this is unbelievably stupid. Sort of like how Cleveland burned a 1st round pick on a 29 year old QB in one of the deepest drafts in awhile... or gave away 3 picks for no reason to the Viqueens to move to #3 overall last year. Wow, this is really a horrible decision.
This years draft doesn't provide the 'value' that a draft normally has - making KC's 2nd round pick less of a gamble on a veteran that is in the bottom 5-10 for starters in the league. I understand that Smith will be able to play in Reid's offense, but with what effectiveness -because he CANNOT make several of the throws that are required by it - especially without any consistency. If it's just a 2nd rounder, it's a really bad decision. If it's more than that, it's just flat out incompetent.
I understand the 'win now' mentality, but KC is more than a few players away from being a playoff contending team, let alone a Superbowl contender. Alex Smith does not put you 'over the top' even if he plays his best football (which is still really mediocre, maybe). KC also has to contend with Brandon Albert's situation. Do you let a guy, that is pretty decent, and you can afford, walk away and take a LT with the first pick? Seems kind of dumb with as many needs as KC has and with the top 8ish guys being 'blue chip' prospects and then a whole lot of question marks after.
I know Reid is going to try for a developmental QB in this draft (and they all mostly are), and he has to buy time and a bridge - but sheesh. A 1st overall 2nd rounder for a guy that can only start for maybe 2-4 teams in the league right now? That's just stupid, even if this draft on paper isn't very good. He'd be better off with Cassel. HECK, even a Matt Moore or a David Garrard is a good option. I think either of those guys are better suited for the situation than Smith and you don't have to give up valuable chips to get them.
I do have to reserve judgement because right now it's all rumor and a lot can happen between now and the start of the league year - but if this deal is as advertised, I just don't 'get it'. Would be funny though if it happened and the 9rs used the pick to package together to get Revis off of the Jets. Sheesh.Comment
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