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  • Bcatswin
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-21-10
    • 13931

    #1
    Alex Smith to the Chiefs/Smart or Dumb/.


    DUMB!
  • TankHankerous
    SBR MVP
    • 03-22-12
    • 2088

    #2
    Football's over guy.
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    • Bcatswin
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-21-10
      • 13931

      #3
      Originally posted by TankHankerous
      Football's over guy.
      Football never over, still covered non stop.
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      • TankHankerous
        SBR MVP
        • 03-22-12
        • 2088

        #4
        We get it, you're a huge football fan.
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        • BigDeem5
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-26-11
          • 17191

          #5
          Better than cassel.
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          • ChalkyDog
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 10-02-11
            • 9598

            #6
            Fukking laughable right now.

            If they can turn around and get something for Cassel, it would be better, but this is a goddamn abomination right now.
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            • Bcatswin
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-21-10
              • 13931

              #7
              Originally posted by TankHankerous
              We get it, you're a huge football fan.
              More of a Baseball fan. What now?
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              • Bcatswin
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-21-10
                • 13931

                #8
                Originally posted by ChalkyDog
                Fukking laughable right now.

                If they can turn around and get something for Cassel, it would be better, but this is a goddamn abomination right now.
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                • ChalkyDog
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 10-02-11
                  • 9598

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bcatswin
                  I am not a KC fan, don't really care, but I am just mind fukked about the business of this deal.

                  Alex Smith is a Cassel Clone. Cassel is insanely overpaid as is. Then they turned around, and gave away too much for another Matt Cassel with slightly more hype. Smith was a disaster before Harbaugh. Unless Reid can work magic with Smith (why couldn't he do the same with Matt?), this seems like a terrible decision.

                  Too many resources in a position thats only job is to turn around and hand it off. God knows you aren't paying these guys for their ability to make a play with their arm.
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                  • Bcatswin
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-21-10
                    • 13931

                    #10
                    Totally agree with you Chalky, its mind boggling.
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                    • ramones951
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-23-08
                      • 2356

                      #11
                      Alex Smith is way better than Cassel. This is a huge upgrade for them. Cassel is horrible.
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                      • MoneyLineDawg
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-01-09
                        • 13253

                        #12
                        Alex Smith for a 4th or 5th round pick.....good deal

                        But they traded the 2nd pick in the 2nd round (34th overall) and another high pick next season.....

                        SF jumped on this deal instead of waiting because they know they raped the Chiefs
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                        • Brock Landers
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 06-30-08
                          • 45367

                          #13
                          Upgrade over anything they had or could draft
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                          • stikymess
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-19-10
                            • 3288

                            #14
                            I sure they could sucker Arizona into a Cassel deal, they love over paying for Qb's
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                            • stevenash
                              Moderator
                              • 01-17-11
                              • 66109

                              #15
                              ^
                              this
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                              • mr. leisure
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-29-08
                                • 17507

                                #16
                                When you have cassell and brady quinn you are desperate
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                                • MrPlow456
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                                  • 10-16-12
                                  • 38

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                  Alex Smith for a 4th or 5th round pick.....good deal

                                  But they traded the 2nd pick in the 2nd round (34th overall) and another high pick next season.....

                                  SF jumped on this deal instead of waiting because they know they raped the Chiefs
                                  This. Entirely this. The last person to do this much damage to a collection of chiefs was Andrew Jackson.
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                                  • Easy-Rider 66
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                                    • 02-14-12
                                    • 36895

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by mr. leisure
                                    When you have cassell and brady quinn you are desperate
                                    And when Matt Barkely and Geno Smith are the top rated QB's in the draft, you do not have many options. Have to think some other teams were bidding for Smith as well.
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                                    • EASports
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 02-13-13
                                      • 559

                                      #19
                                      This has Andy Ried's lack of front office acumen written all over it. Doesnt value the draft, yet needs to develop a QB for the future.

                                      49ers did Smith a favor benching him. It only made Smith's value skyrocket into misinterpretations of his actual skill level. Smith will probably escape with another contract, yet underachieve with an unarguably leser coach in Reid.

                                      Its amazing how the NFL has the best athletes the world has to offer, yet has to recycle shitty QB's non-stop.
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                                      • Bcatswin
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                                        • 12-21-10
                                        • 13931

                                        #20
                                        Sort of reminds me of the Raiders dumb trade for Palmer.
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                                        • EASports
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                                          • 02-13-13
                                          • 559

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Bcatswin
                                          Sort of reminds me of the Raiders dumb trade for Palmer.
                                          That trade was done by a nostalgic head coach who had previously worked with Palmer, when he was a top tier QB. Only to have Palmer play some of the worst football in the history of Raiders franchise and lead to the change over of the whole coaching staff. Ried is just scared of drafting a QB, who if fails Ried would recieve criticism and be fired. Bringing over Smith is a safe move. Since he is already under contract and if fails Smith would just become what we all know he is, a backup QB.
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                                          • ROYAJA8
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-23-09
                                            • 2069

                                            #22
                                            Great upgrade for the chiefs. Smith has skills and will get to display them with a coach like Reid who lets his qb actually throw more than they run. Smith has a chip on his shoulders for being benched and will have a great year.
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                                            • ramones951
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-23-08
                                              • 2356

                                              #23
                                              You gotta do what's necessary in this league. To everyone that's saying he's not worth a 2nd round pick, what were the Chiefs supposed to do this season? By making this trade they get a proven starting QB and they still have the #1 overall pick to upgrade elsewhere. Do you really think rolling with Cassel again this season would be the smart move because you get to keep the 33rd overall pick? Hell no... Don't be so quick to overreact.

                                              This team was a playoff team just a couple seasons ago. And now with Smith and potentially Joeckel to protect him, plus a back-to-normal Jamaal Charles, they could be looking at a wildcard berth. I absolutely love this trade for the Chiefs as well as the 49ers. Both will benefit.
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                                              • BigdaddyQH
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                                                • 07-13-09
                                                • 19531

                                                #24
                                                The Chiefs get a decent QB, but much more importantly, the best LT and player in the draft in Joeckel. San Fran will not be returning to the Super Bowl next season. Losers never do.
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                                                • YouMama
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 01-04-12
                                                  • 727

                                                  #25
                                                  who else were they gonna get? smith is = geno or barkley ... Im not a huge smith fan, I would rather have colt mccoy, but there options were kind of limited
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                                                  • Louisvillekid1
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 10-17-07
                                                    • 52143

                                                    #26
                                                    PLayoff team this year
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                                                    • spankie
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                                                      • 02-10-11
                                                      • 9992

                                                      #27
                                                      I guess the first thing i'd like to know is...

                                                      Is Alex Smith a good person or a bad person?
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                                                      • ramones951
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-23-08
                                                        • 2356

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                                        San Fran will not be returning to the Super Bowl next season. Losers never do.
                                                        It's actually happened seven times.
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                                                        • vyomguy
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 12-08-09
                                                          • 5794

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                                          San Fran will not be returning to the Super Bowl next season. Losers never do.
                                                          Say that to dallas cowboys. 49ers have a good shot at making the superbowl again.
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                                                          • vyomguy
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 12-08-09
                                                            • 5794

                                                            #30
                                                            apparently, arizona was willing to give their 1st round pick. But 49ers didnt want to trade him to a division rival. So, chiefs had to give up their 2nd round pick this year and 3rd round pick next year.

                                                            Chiefs had no choice...it was a bidding war.
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                                                            • thechaoz
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 10-23-09
                                                              • 12154

                                                              #31
                                                              Ninaz cleaning up in Draft this year
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                                                              • k13
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                                                                • 07-16-10
                                                                • 18130

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                                                The Chiefs get a decent QB, but much more importantly, the best LT and player in the draft in Joeckel. San Fran will not be returning to the Super Bowl next season. Losers never do.
                                                                Bills say Hi.
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                                                                • El Nino
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                                                                  • 05-03-12
                                                                  • 18426

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Just happy the Cardinals didn't get him.
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                                                                  • MoneyLineDawg
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-01-09
                                                                    • 13253

                                                                    #34
                                                                    @ a bidding war for Alex Smith......Guy is decent but the 49ers have the best team in the league around the QB, its pretty damn easy to look good on that team with the great O-line/ running game, solid weapons, and a shutdown defense, not to mention a great coaching staff.....Alex Smith will probably be decent but gimmie a break, there's a reason why Chiefs fans are not happy with the compensation.....If it was just one 3rd round pick that would have been about right, but whatever

                                                                    And yes a late 1st round pick (essentially) and a high pick next year is way too much for a serviceable QB.....
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                                                                    • McBa1n
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                                                                      • 01-02-06
                                                                      • 2642

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Am I the only one scratching my head if the reported trade is indeed correct? A 2nd rounder and a conditional 3rd? I know we won't know the details until the league year starts in March, but um - this is unbelievably stupid. Sort of like how Cleveland burned a 1st round pick on a 29 year old QB in one of the deepest drafts in awhile... or gave away 3 picks for no reason to the Viqueens to move to #3 overall last year. Wow, this is really a horrible decision.

                                                                      This years draft doesn't provide the 'value' that a draft normally has - making KC's 2nd round pick less of a gamble on a veteran that is in the bottom 5-10 for starters in the league. I understand that Smith will be able to play in Reid's offense, but with what effectiveness -because he CANNOT make several of the throws that are required by it - especially without any consistency. If it's just a 2nd rounder, it's a really bad decision. If it's more than that, it's just flat out incompetent.

                                                                      I understand the 'win now' mentality, but KC is more than a few players away from being a playoff contending team, let alone a Superbowl contender. Alex Smith does not put you 'over the top' even if he plays his best football (which is still really mediocre, maybe). KC also has to contend with Brandon Albert's situation. Do you let a guy, that is pretty decent, and you can afford, walk away and take a LT with the first pick? Seems kind of dumb with as many needs as KC has and with the top 8ish guys being 'blue chip' prospects and then a whole lot of question marks after.

                                                                      I know Reid is going to try for a developmental QB in this draft (and they all mostly are), and he has to buy time and a bridge - but sheesh. A 1st overall 2nd rounder for a guy that can only start for maybe 2-4 teams in the league right now? That's just stupid, even if this draft on paper isn't very good. He'd be better off with Cassel. HECK, even a Matt Moore or a David Garrard is a good option. I think either of those guys are better suited for the situation than Smith and you don't have to give up valuable chips to get them.

                                                                      I do have to reserve judgement because right now it's all rumor and a lot can happen between now and the start of the league year - but if this deal is as advertised, I just don't 'get it'. Would be funny though if it happened and the 9rs used the pick to package together to get Revis off of the Jets. Sheesh.
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