Possibly the Best Bet of the Year Monday Night

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  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #1
    Possibly the Best Bet of the Year Monday Night
    Iowa State -1 -102. I like this better than +1 -110. ISU never loses at home, they had Kansas beat in Lawrence and would have won if not for a lucky banked in three at the end of regulation. Another minor factor is Kansas coming off of back-to-back revenge wins, but now the revenge is on the other foot.
  • BigDeem5
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-26-11
    • 17191

    #2
    ISU is very good at home but do you expect McLemore to play as bad as he did at Ok St?

    Withey is a fukking prescence too.
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    • ThaWoj
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 03-09-10
      • 6773

      #3
      If +1 is -110 shouldnt pk be -102? making -1 something like +108?
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      • Brooklyn Dick
        SBR MVP
        • 09-12-08
        • 1094

        #4
        Originally posted by ThaWoj
        If +1 is -110 shouldnt pk be -102? making -1 something like +108?
        No, because Pick is not a number that can fall.
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        • numismatist
          SBR MVP
          • 10-02-11
          • 2192

          #5
          I feel like this one is one I should stay far away from.
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          • NittanyLionsFan
            SBR MVP
            • 10-26-10
            • 2857

            #6
            LT is one of the handful of guys I actually respect on this forum so I'm surprised to see this because I actually think Kansas wins in Ames.
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            • DrStale
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-07-08
              • 9692

              #7
              Originally posted by Brooklyn Dick
              No, because Pick is not a number that can fall.
              What?

              +1 is -110 and a PK is -103 right now.
              Originally posted by Dark Horse
              If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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              • tto827
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 10-01-12
                • 9078

                #8
                Originally posted by Brooklyn Dick
                No, because Pick is not a number that can fall.
                Neither is a half point, but you still get 8 cents or whatever for selling it.

                I'm not sure about this game, but taking -1 102 in the long run when +1 -110 is offered isn't the best idea LT. GL I'd like to see Kansas lose.
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                • No coincidences
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-18-10
                  • 76300

                  #9
                  Like I said in the other thread, Iowa State worries me because of the "freestyle" way that they play. I've seen quite a few of their games, and while they have a ton of talent, they're one of those teams who will get up by 8 but still chuck a three-point attempt with 30 on the shot clock. Again, a lot of that is due to the fact that they have a score-first PG in Lucious.

                  They need to get off to a good start. If not, they might be playing catch-up all night long. This is basically ISU's chance at making the NCAA Tournament as an at-large team -- do they get their signature win or cave under the pressure? It's not exactly like they can take a "nothing to lose" approach to this game.
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                  • LT Profits
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-27-06
                    • 90963

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ThaWoj
                    If +1 is -110 shouldnt pk be -102? making -1 something like +108?
                    Originally posted by DrStale

                    What?

                    +1 is -110 and a PK is -103 right now.
                    Originally posted by tto827
                    Neither is a half point, but you still get 8 cents or whatever for selling it.

                    I'm not sure about this game, but taking -1 102 in the long run when +1 -110 is offered isn't the best idea LT. GL I'd like to see Kansas lose.
                    True if +1 -110 is the "right" price. I think this line is skewed and ISU should be favored so I'll gladly pay the smaller vig.
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                    • tto827
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 10-01-12
                      • 9078

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                      True if +1 -110 is the "right" price. I think this line is skewed and ISU should be favored so I'll gladly pay the smaller vig.
                      I get the thinking LT, across the street there was a thread about it. Would you rather have the best price or the best number? Lots of people answered the best price (as in -2 +100 or -1.5 -110). The answer to this question is it depends on the worth of the points. This is a highly subjective topic to a degree, but the smart guys will give you answers that are pretty similar.

                      But really, regardless of what the actual price is, unless its way off the number (lets say more than 5 points), the math wouldn't support this play vs. the +1. But 90% of the time it won't matter, so I'm rooting for you that this is one of that 90%.
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                      • No coincidences
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-18-10
                        • 76300

                        #12
                        It's 1.5 now (the +1 is -102).
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                        • pavyracer
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 04-12-07
                          • 82666

                          #13
                          Kansas losing as a best bet of the year should not be on anyone's priority list regardless of year and place the game is played.
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                          • BIGDAY
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 02-17-10
                            • 48247

                            #14
                            Public will Pound KS. I'll wait to lay down. Might get +2.5 to 3...
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                            • ChiHawk86
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 02-20-13
                              • 91

                              #15
                              I see a lot of Iowa state backers on a lot of forums, which probably is the correct pick. BUT Kansas has some extra motivation. Still tied for 1st place in the Big 12 a loss on Monday sets them back and if K-State wins out, KU loses the conference. They wanna make it 9 in a row. BIG deal for them. Also, the 1st game in Lawrence, was the beginning of KU's offensive slump (pun intended). KU did shoot %50 from the floor but that was because McLemore was 9-11 for 30 pts or something. KU's guards played horrible that game and since then has made alot of adjustments. KU beat TCU in the 1st half on Saturday, and got to work on different sets, combos, lineups 2H. KU will show up to play.
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                              • selthecap
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 02-11-13
                                • 7

                                #16
                                Originally posted by LT Profits
                                they had Kansas beat in Lawrence and would have won if not for a lucky banked in three at the end of regulation.
                                So what you are saying is Iowa likes to choke and cannot hold a lead. Kansas has won 9 of the last 10 SU and while the ATS numbers have't been good at -1 it is basically a pick game. I like the Jayhaws here. They lost their 3 in a row and Self work their butts off in practice. They know they cannot simply "show up" and win anymore.
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                                • Art Vandelay
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-11-06
                                  • 6704

                                  #17
                                  I like both Marquette and Iowa State for 1st half plays. Huge emotional home courts, long hc winning streaks going. Emotion carries the first halfs but talent (SYR and KAN) could take over in the 2nd.
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                                  • numismatist
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-02-11
                                    • 2192

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                    Kansas losing as a best bet of the year should not be on anyone's priority list regardless of year and place the game is played.

                                    I agree with you. To me this a risky game to bet anymore than a unit on
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                                    • No coincidences
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-18-10
                                      • 76300

                                      #19
                                      +2 now at Pinny.
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                                      • tblues2005
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 07-30-06
                                        • 9235

                                        #20
                                        I wouldn't be shocked if Iowa State wins this game. Iowa State has been really hard to beat up there. That crowd there is going to be crazy tonight there.
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                                        • leetreaper
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 10-23-10
                                          • 34841

                                          #21
                                          +2 it is
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                                          • Da Beer Guy
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 02-11-13
                                            • 393

                                            #22
                                            oh snap crucial line movement!
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                                            • LT Profits
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-27-06
                                              • 90963

                                              #23
                                              Yeah I HATE the latest line movement on this game. Oh well, the deed is done.
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                                              • LT Profits
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 10-27-06
                                                • 90963

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by selthecap

                                                So what you are saying is Iowa likes to choke and cannot hold a lead. Kansas has won 9 of the last 10 SU and while the ATS numbers have't been good at -1 it is basically a pick game. I like the Jayhaws here. They lost their 3 in a row and Self work their butts off in practice. They know they cannot simply "show up" and win anymore.
                                                Originally posted by Art Vandelay
                                                I like both Marquette and Iowa State for 1st half plays. Huge emotional home courts, long hc winning streaks going. Emotion carries the first halfs but talent (SYR and KAN) could take over in the 2nd.
                                                I think both of you are overrating Kansas/underrating Iowa State. If you throw out all the emotional factors and just look at the "talent" and assume both teams "show up" and play their best, I still like ISU's chances at home.
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                                                • LT Profits
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 10-27-06
                                                  • 90963

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                  Kansas losing as a best bet of the year should not be on anyone's priority list regardless of year and place the game is played.
                                                  This is the worst Kansas team in a long time. Don't get me wrong, I am using "worst" in the relative sense as they are still VERY good. They are just not up to the standards of recent years.
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                                                  • ChiHawk86
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 02-20-13
                                                    • 91

                                                    #26
                                                    The only weakness of this Kansas team is the bench. Only legitimate bench player is Tharpe, and even he is super inconsistent. Ellis, Traylor, White, Adams have not developed the way everyone was thinking. To be fair, KU's team last year was similar with literally no bench and they made to the ship.
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                                                    • LT Profits
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-27-06
                                                      • 90963

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ChiHawk86
                                                      The only weakness of this Kansas team is the bench.
                                                      They don't shoot three-pointers that well either and they don't force many turnovers. The three-point disparity between these teams should be the biggest key to the game.
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                                                      • Louisvillekid1
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-17-07
                                                        • 52143

                                                        #28
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                                                        • ChiHawk86
                                                          SBR Hustler
                                                          • 02-20-13
                                                          • 91

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                          They don't shoot three-pointers that well either and they don't force many turnovers. The three-point disparity between these teams should be the biggest key to the game.
                                                          You are correct, Elijah and Naadir are shooting like under 25% from 3s and at an alarming high rate, wasted possessions.
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                                                          • RetardStrength
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-25-10
                                                            • 1478

                                                            #30
                                                            It's strong, I agree.... But "bet of the year" I dunno...

                                                            It's gonna be a small play for me and I'll wait till gametime to pull the trigger

                                                            I personally like Nova to continue their hot streak, against a Seton Hall team that is totally lost... The line sits below 5 at the moment, and I'm allowing Nova 7-8 in this spot...

                                                            Good luck to all
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                                                            • Ralphie1412
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-29-08
                                                              • 13963

                                                              #31
                                                              Cyclones at +1.5 now
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                                                              • DOM_Toretto
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 01-28-13
                                                                • 9035

                                                                #32
                                                                I don't know how anybody can say betting against KU is a 'strong play'. For me it's either KU ML or no play. I respect both of these teams and personally think both teams are underrated, but here's my take on jayhawks edge:

                                                                KU is 3-0 on Monday games after a Saturday game this season, beating K St & Baylor at home and WVU on the road. Iowa state only 1-0 beating Oklahoma.

                                                                Jeff Withey should be a huge factor in this game, as he is shooting ~75% career vs Iowa St, with 11, 6 & 12 rebounds, respectively, in his last 3 matchups vs ISU. He also totaled 11 blocks in those last 3 vs ISU.

                                                                Lucious, McGee and the rest of the cyclones are chucking up 25+ 3-pt attempts per game vs weak opponents and I think an ever-improving KU Defense can make that percentage much lower tonight.

                                                                If you want to talk about the last game at KU, yes ISU took KU to overtime and could've won that game. But look deeper than the score to realize that KU was up at half, and held a ~10 pt lead for a good portion if this game. Only when KU went 9 minutes without a field goal did they let the cyclones get bak in the game. I think Self has his team concentrated now and their confidence is back. KU wins by 5.
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                                                                • EASports
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 02-13-13
                                                                  • 559

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Iowa St is the type of bet that the people who make money gambling, make their money with.
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                                                                  • ChiLLx
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 12-24-11
                                                                    • 5412

                                                                    #34
                                                                    All the resident SBR sharps all over Iowa St.
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                                                                    • Blissit02
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 07-16-11
                                                                      • 710

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Kansas it is....
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