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  • orisbumplut
    SBR High Roller
    • 01-22-13
    • 210

    #106
    No questions that the Baltimore ML backers were very lucky to win. But based on getting screwed earlier in the day by Trash of the Fakers missing two FTs when hitting one would have been enough to cover, I would say that we deserved the Raven gift.
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    • PAULYPOKER
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      • 12-06-08
      • 36581

      #107
      Originally posted by LowRollin
      missed PI call on the 9ers in the first half would have been a ravens td. there were bad/non calls for both teams but as a neutral observer I'd say the better team won.
      True......
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      • Ironman07
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 05-16-10
        • 615

        #108
        Bad Call

        Had the over so no real dog in this fight...that being said it was interference by the rules. Having played receiver at a D1 school Ive been on both sides of that call. If you break the tape down frame by frame you'll see the defender holding and at the last second falling backwards to appear he got pushed. Doesnt matter whether its 4th down it needs to be called and wasnt. doesnt affect the spread either.
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        • ScurvyPirate
          SBR Sharp
          • 12-15-11
          • 377

          #109
          The better team did win, true. I only had a few player props, so that play didn't matter to me. How anyone can say that wasn't holding wasn't watching the same game I was. Yes Crabtree pushed off, only because he was held on both sides! SF screwed themselves with their final play calls. Plenty of time to run Gore once or twice. They missed their opportunity, the ref had to make a quick judgement call and didnt throw the flag. Why SF didnt run Gore blows my mind..
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          • gregm
            SBR MVP
            • 03-14-11
            • 3535

            #110
            I dont see how anyone cant credit the Raven defensive play calling at the end , blitzing and putting Kaepernick under pressure there. Most of what I have read this morning from the 49er press has been the questioning of the play calling by the offensive coordinator Greg Roman with three straight passes and you want to win the super bowl with a very tough fade pass in the corner of the end zone.

            1st down The 49ers have the ball at the 7 yard line and run LaMichael James inside instead of Frank Gore? A smaller running back on an inside running play. No Frank Gore

            2nd down was an incomplete pass. No Frank Gore again

            3rd down- A pass to Michael Crabtree that was 2 yards short of the goal line. No Frank Gore again.

            4th down You call one of the toughest plays on the goal line , a fade pass in the corner of the end zone. You have to be perfect with the throw to complete this, this is how you are going to win the super bowl. A fade in the corner of the end zone. You have to be on the money with this pass and this pass was not perfect. 4 chances fromm the 7 yard line and Frank Gore didnt touch the ball once?

            Atrocious play calling, even the 49ers were questioning some of the play calls.

            "Tackle Joe Staley was asked by Comcast SportsNet Bay Area's Matt Maiocco on Sunday if Staley wished another run play had been called instead of three passes at the end. "Yeah," was his simple answer.

            Other 49ers players echoed the sentiment after perhaps the craziest Super Bowl in memory.

            "As a player, all I could think of was maybe running a different play, but that's just a player mentality," tight end Vernon Davis said, via The Associated Press. "Greg Roman, he called the shots. We gotta go with it and respect his calls. He believed in it, we believed in it, but it just didn't work."

            "I'm a little surprised," safety Donte Whitner told Maiocco. "But it's coach's call. Like anything, if it works, you're a genius. If it doesn't, you messed up."

            On the no call in the end zone? "It is what it is, man," Crabtree said. "It was the last play, and I'm not going to blame the refs. It is what it is. It came down to the last play and it didn't happen.

            When Harbaugh was asked why Gore did not get any touches among the final three plays, he answered tersely, "We had other plays called."

            San Francisco 49ers offensive coordinator Greg Roman called three straight passes at the end of Super Bowl XLVII. Those three calls were a big topic among Niners players after the game.




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            • bettilimbroke999
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-04-08
              • 13254

              #111
              Originally posted by Kermit
              There were holds by both teams the entire game that went uncalled.
              This

              There were so few flags in this game almost nothing was called...I dont remember a hold being called the entire 2nd half. Normally if you breathe on a receiver or tackle the QB way out of bounds like they did on Flacco you will get a flag in today's NFL but in the Super Bowl they just keep em in their pockets.

              For the record no way are they deciding the Super Bowl with a flag on a light hold on an uncatchable ball anyway...if they did it wouldve been Atlanta and the Ravens playing anyway as 49ers held the fuk out of Atlanta on 4th down in the NFC championship...either way 49ers werent gettin the Super Bowl
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              • pavyracer
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 04-12-07
                • 82843

                #112
                When they had that big fight in the first half they should have kicked a few players out of the game for throwing punches and fighting and they did nothing. The officiating crew was the worst I have ever seen in a Superbowl.
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                • bettilimbroke999
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-04-08
                  • 13254

                  #113
                  Super Bowl rules...let em play

                  Awesome!

                  Wish it was like this every week, instead of 10 flags on every drive
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                  • PAULYPOKER
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                    • 12-06-08
                    • 36581

                    #114
                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                    When they had that big fight in the first half they should have kicked a few players out of the game for throwing punches and fighting and they did nothing. The officiating crew was the worst I have ever seen in a Superbowl.
                    You don't kick players out of the Superbowl especially when it will give an advantage to team A that loses a lesser player than team B....

                    If they were to eject players for this,

                    If I were the couch, Hell, I would send a 3rd stringer in for one play just to sucker kick some one of Patrick Willis's caliber in the nads........
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                    • CallMeChip
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 03-23-11
                      • 681

                      #115
                      Not calling that last play as a hold was on par with calling that retarded roughing the kicker penalty. Akers please retire you idiot. IMHO, Harbaugh didn't trust his boy enough to put the game into his hands. With the way Kaepernick can run, at least give him one shot to take it in. He was destroying first down conversions with his legs.
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                      • pavyracer
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 04-12-07
                        • 82843

                        #116
                        Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                        You don't kick players out of the Superbowl especially when it will give an advantage to team A that loses a lesser player than team B....

                        If they were to eject players for this,

                        If I were the couch, Hell, I would send a 3rd stringer in for one play just to sucker kick some one of Patrick Willis's caliber in the nads........
                        Yeah but that set the tone for the rest of the game. Everything is allowed and you can hold, push, hit and shove without fear of being called for a penalty.
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                        • gregm
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-14-11
                          • 3535

                          #117
                          Mike Pereira makes a good point about the hold call and crabtrees reaction, despite Harbaugh screaming for a hold it it wouldn't be defensive holding because the pass was in the air when the supposed contact occurred. It's either offensive pass interference or defensive pass interference. Harbaugh was screaming it was a hold from a log ways away and crabtree didnt complain of a hold or pass interference and he was right there, usually those receivers are throwing up their hands for a flag like clockwork.

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                          "Kaepernick lofted a pass to Crabtree, who was being guarded bySmith. Both players were hand fighting and when you look at this play in real time, there's not enough to call pass interference against either player. Smith had a quick grab and Crabtree had a quick push-off. Smith went down on the play and the pass fell incomplete.
                          Crabtree never complained and it's the type of play where a flag thrown against either team would have, in my mind, created more controversy than a decision not to throw the flag.

                          It was not an obvious foul and until I looked at it in slow motion, it seemed like no foul at all. It's not a penalty I would want called if I were still VP of Officiating for the NFL."
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                          • face
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-31-11
                            • 14740

                            #118
                            ball was uncatchable anyway. it landed 4 feet out of bounds. sure, they could have called holding and extended the drive. but they were letting them play all game. there were tons of holds and fights all game. one guy (a raven) pushed a referee and they didn't call that.
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                            • Shafted69
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 07-04-08
                              • 6412

                              #119
                              should've been 2 flags. one on the D & one on the O. replay the down.
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                              • High3rEl3m3nt
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                                • 09-28-10
                                • 8022

                                #120
                                Originally posted by face
                                ball was uncatchable anyway. it landed 4 feet out of bounds. sure, they could have called holding and extended the drive. but they were letting them play all game. there were tons of holds and fights all game. one guy (a raven) pushed a referee and they didn't call that.
                                4 feat out a bounds? maybe, but the football's trajectory was certainly catchable. I like that there wasn't a flag there, and it's hard for the zebras to know what 5 yards when some of that yardage includes the endzone. If the zebras call that, they pretty much decide the game, unless the Ravens manage a drive and kick a fg.
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                                • pavyracer
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 04-12-07
                                  • 82843

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by High3rEl3m3nt
                                  4 feat out a bounds? maybe, but the football's trajectory was certainly catchable. I like that there wasn't a flag there, and it's hard for the zebras to know what 5 yards when some of that yardage includes the endzone. If the zebras call that, they pretty much decide the game, unless the Ravens manage a drive and kick a fg.
                                  No one is denying the ball was catchable. But the laws of physics indicate that the ball would have only been catchable 4 feet out of bounds which would have made it an incomplete pass.
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                                  • High3rEl3m3nt
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                                    • 09-28-10
                                    • 8022

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                    No one is denying the ball was catchable. But the laws of physics indicate that the ball would have only been catchable 4 feet out of bounds which would have made it an incomplete pass.
                                    I don't buy this. If the receiver was all alone, he could have caught it in the endzone.
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                                    • pavyracer
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 04-12-07
                                      • 82843

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by High3rEl3m3nt
                                      I don't buy this. If the receiver was all alone, he could have caught it in the endzone.
                                      Well he wasn't alone..that why there was no timing between the throw and the potential catch. By the time he was free the ball was already out of bounds.
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                                      • gregm
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-14-11
                                        • 3535

                                        #124
                                        Just watch the reaction of crabtree at the :36 mark in this video. he isnt screaming about a hold or pass interference. How many wide receivers who think there is even the slightest chance they are going to get a call aren't calling for a flag and raising hell.

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                                        • High3rEl3m3nt
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                                          • 09-28-10
                                          • 8022

                                          #125
                                          So there was contact after the ball was thrown?
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                                          • Mr Handicapable
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                                            • 09-23-07
                                            • 6067

                                            #126
                                            SF deserved to lose.....they were running the ball like crazy against a tired D so why start passing from the 5 on 2nd down. It was 4 down territory and running clock helped them as well. Even if they scored.....they would've been 50/50 at best. Up either 1 or 3 with a TD and Flacco had plenty of time with a good kicker.
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                                            • pavyracer
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-12-07
                                              • 82843

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
                                              SF deserved to lose.....they were running the ball like crazy against a tired D so why start passing from the 5 on 2nd down. It was 4 down territory and running clock helped them as well. Even if they scored.....they would've been 50/50 at best. Up either 1 or 3 with a TD and Flacco had plenty of time with a good kicker.
                                              That's why they lost. When they played the Falcons they kept pounding the ball and eventually scored the TD which won the game.
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                                              • High3rEl3m3nt
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                                                • 09-28-10
                                                • 8022

                                                #128
                                                I'd argue that Baltimore deserved to lose. How did they even get themselves in a position to lose after their enormous lead?
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                                                • Mr Handicapable
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                                                  • 09-23-07
                                                  • 6067

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by High3rEl3m3nt
                                                  I'd argue that Baltimore deserved to lose. How did they even get themselves in a position to lose after their enormous lead?
                                                  Their D is old....Ngata was out. Thats why I loved Over because Kaep was too quick for them....too good of an arm. Flacco was on a Eli like roll too but SF has better talent in their prime imo so I was expecting a big run at some point.
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                                                  • PaperTrail07
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 08-29-08
                                                    • 20423

                                                    #130
                                                    are people forgetting the size of these recievers....1-2 more steps and that ball was caught.....50/50 call and the zebra kept the flag in his pocket.....like they did ALL GAME!!!......Few ravens players should have been ejected....one 2 handed the ref....then they were offsetting because no flag was thrown and it turned into a fight......

                                                    Ravens were very lucky to have the game called they wanted it.....just in general...their reciever fight w their hand every play...and your not gonna get OFF PI very often...so they let the D fight back as well.....without ravens wideouts fighting, the game would have been called much closer....they forced them to let it go almost
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                                                    • ThaTopMoron
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                                                      • 04-30-10
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                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                      You don't kick players out of the Superbowl especially when it will give an advantage to team A that loses a lesser player than team B....

                                                      If they were to eject players for this,

                                                      If I were the couch, Hell, I would send a 3rd stringer in for one play just to sucker kick some one of Patrick Willis's caliber in the nads........
                                                      you'd fit in perfect with the sAINTS
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                                                      • imack
                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                        • 09-08-10
                                                        • 61

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by High3rEl3m3nt
                                                        I'd argue that Baltimore deserved to lose. How did they even get themselves in a position to lose after their enormous lead?
                                                        The ridiculous momentum screw-job thanks to the power outage, that's how. Otherwise, this game would have never been close.

                                                        The better team won. Break out the tissue for all the whining losers. Knowing some of these dipshyts got buried is almost more enjoyable than cashing.
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                                                        • High3rEl3m3nt
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                                                          • 09-28-10
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                                                          #133
                                                          So, the Baltimore defense lost momentum and allowed almost 30 points?
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                                                          • Andy117
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                                                            • 02-07-10
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                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by milwaukee mike


                                                            the play started at the 7 so any contact in the endzone is not within 5 yards
                                                            The initial contact was within 5 yards, and from there a penalty could have been called on either guy.
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                                                            • Andy117
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                                                              • 02-07-10
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                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by Untied
                                                              People saying that ball was uncatchable Is ridiculous.
                                                              If Crabtree "pushed off" it was in response to being held
                                                              The bear hug tackle, holding during the safety was an inexcusable missed call.
                                                              The end to that game just leaves a bitter taste, and will forever have an asterisk.


                                                              Even if holding was called during the safety, it wouldn't have changed anything. A holding call in the end zone results in a safety anyway.
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                                                              • SoonerC
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                                                                • 12-03-11
                                                                • 437

                                                                #136
                                                                The worst non-call in the game (by far) was the no late hit penalty when Flacco was hit 3 yards out of bounds. They let them play, quit crying and get over it.
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                                                                • pavyracer
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                                                                  • 04-12-07
                                                                  • 82843

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by Untied
                                                                  People saying that ball was uncatchable Is ridiculous.
                                                                  If Crabtree "pushed off" it was in response to being held
                                                                  The bear hug tackle, holding during the safety was an inexcusable missed call.
                                                                  The end to that game just leaves a bitter taste, and will forever have an asterisk.


                                                                  That ball is uncatchable. Only way is catchable is if the ball is coming from the stands. Crabtree didn't have enough speed to catch the ball before it went out of bounds. Take a physics class about velocity and trajectory.
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                                                                  • Romocide
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                                                                    • 09-14-11
                                                                    • 1404

                                                                    #138
                                                                    It was a hold, but I can kind of see how someone might view it differently. However, there is no doubt that Crabtree was the victim of a helmet to helmet hit on 3rd down that should have given SF a 1st down. It was as blatant an H2H hit that you'll ever se

                                                                    Watch this and try to deny that either play should have resulted in a Ravens penalty. Especially the hit. This doesn't even show the blatant holding on the kickoff return for a TD. I'm not a fan of either team. Being a huge Cowboys fan, I really hate the Niners. Doesn't change the fact that they got epically screwed and should be SB champs.

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                                                                    • Cuse0323
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                                                                      • 12-09-09
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                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                      That ball is uncatchable. Only way is catchable is if the ball is coming from the stands. Crabtree didn't have enough speed to catch the ball before it went out of bounds. Take a physics class about velocity and trajectory.
                                                                      His hands are a couple feet away from it after being held which is why he didn't have enough speed. No chance to catch it. Might want to retake that physics class, it's probably been a while.
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                                                                      • lakerboy
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                                                                        • 04-02-09
                                                                        • 94379

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Pavy was happy.
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