Seton Hall only +4 vs Cincy WTF

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  • Big Bear
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 11-01-11
    • 43253

    #1
    Seton Hall only +4 vs Cincy WTF
    How are they only getting 4?
  • BigDeem5
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-26-11
    • 17191

    #2
    Little light, play Cincy ML

    Big East rigs endings
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    • Brock Landers
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 06-30-08
      • 45367

      #3
      where are you seeing lines for tomorrow?
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      • Big Bear
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 11-01-11
        • 43253

        #4
        "
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        • Brock Landers
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 06-30-08
          • 45367

          #5
          Kenpom has Cincy winning 67-61
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          • chunk
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 02-08-11
            • 805

            #6
            Not far off if any.....maybe 5.
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            • BigDeem5
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-26-11
              • 17191

              #7
              Kempom is a joke
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              • Bcatswin
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-21-10
                • 13931

                #8
                Sounds right, and no Ken Pom is not a joke.
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                • Big Bear
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 11-01-11
                  • 43253

                  #9
                  whats the best home dog tomorrow?
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                  • CarpeDime
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-01-09
                    • 7873

                    #10
                    because cincy is awful as a big fave, if the line was 7 or 8 i wouldve been all over s hall, 4 is not enough though, cincy is good but bad as a big fave
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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BigDeem5
                      Kempom is a joke
                      Um...WHAT? Openers are almost within 1.5 points of his numbers. But forget that, the data at his site is priceless
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                      • El Sol
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 05-17-08
                        • 876

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BigDeem5
                        Kempom is a joke
                        What data sites do you use then?
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                        • CashDummy
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 12-13-12
                          • 328

                          #13
                          Cincy isnt that good.
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                          • Bcatswin
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 12-21-10
                            • 13931

                            #14
                            Cincy is the best!
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                            • Brock Landers
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 06-30-08
                              • 45367

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BigDeem5
                              Kempom is a joke
                              vegas uses him for their lines
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                              • sportsguy04
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-21-08
                                • 11885

                                #16
                                Cincy has never beaten seton hall at seton hall.
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                                • CashDummy
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 12-13-12
                                  • 328

                                  #17
                                  Take a look at their Depaul games with both on the road. Cincy isn't that good. And like sportsguy04 said...they have never beaten Seton Hall at Seton Hall. I may not pull the trigger on this play but I think the spread is accurate.
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                                  • sportsguy04
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-21-08
                                    • 11885

                                    #18
                                    -5.5 now
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                                    • No coincidences
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-18-10
                                      • 76300

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BigDeem5
                                      Kempom is a joke
                                      You do realize oddsmakers use his numbers almost to the T for their sides and totals, right?
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                                      • BigDeem5
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-26-11
                                        • 17191

                                        #20
                                        Yeah.. I realize it, guys. If his line is -4 and Vegas throws at -5.. Wtf is the play? No leverage. I mean be serious. The line is so similar it really has no advantage.

                                        He isn't gunna have cinci a 4 PT dog and cincy will be favored by 6 by Vegas.

                                        No angle is that strong, too close to Vegas lines
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                                        • BigDeem5
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 02-26-11
                                          • 17191

                                          #21
                                          Landers uses it, enough said.
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                                          • No coincidences
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-18-10
                                            • 76300

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by BigDeem5
                                            Yeah.. I realize it, guys. If his line is -4 and Vegas throws at -5.. Wtf is the play? No leverage. I mean be serious. The line is so similar it really has no advantage.

                                            He isn't gunna have cinci a 4 PT dog and cincy will be favored by 6 by Vegas.

                                            No angle is that strong, too close to Vegas lines
                                            You don't get it. We're not saying it's a coincidence that the lines are so close, or that you can use KenPom's numbers vs. Vegas' lines to your advantage. You can't. KenPom is Vegas, for all intents and purposes. Oddsmakers cheat off his work and set the line based on his predictions.
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                                            • BigDeem5
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 02-26-11
                                              • 17191

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by No coincidences
                                              You don't get it. We're not saying it's a coincidence that the lines are so close, or that you can use KenPom's numbers vs. Vegas' lines to your advantage. You can't. KenPom is Vegas, for all intents and purposes. Oddsmakers cheat off his work and set the line based on his predictions.
                                              So why is it so vital?
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                                              • artyfudgepacker
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-06-13
                                                • 2205

                                                #24
                                                damm u guys gona make me pass on this one
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                                                • goduke
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 02-17-10
                                                  • 11668

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                  You don't get it. We're not saying it's a coincidence that the lines are so close, or that you can use KenPom's numbers vs. Vegas' lines to your advantage. You can't. KenPom is Vegas, for all intents and purposes. Oddsmakers cheat off his work and set the line based on his predictions.
                                                  He really should be capitalizing on this. He could at least make a salary from them since hes doing most of their work
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                                                  • LT Profits
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 10-27-06
                                                    • 90963

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BigDeem5
                                                    Yeah.. I realize it, guys. If his line is -4 and Vegas throws at -5.. Wtf is the play? No leverage. I mean be serious. The line is so similar it really has no advantage.

                                                    He isn't gunna have cinci a 4 PT dog and cincy will be favored by 6 by Vegas.

                                                    No angle is that strong, too close to Vegas lines
                                                    But you said "kenpom is a joke". Fact that openers almost clone him proves otherwise. And like I said, his value is not in the line setting because whenever there is a big difference from the real line, there is usually a legitimate reason. His value is in the data at his site, which will make you a better handicapper.
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                                                    • onacloud
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 10-14-10
                                                      • 5360

                                                      #27
                                                      Guys don't explain it to him if they don't have $20 to fork over for Kenpom that's their loss

                                                      This is the first year I bought Kenpom and I can say the data available really is priceless its helped me tremendously

                                                      Only wish there was a site like this for the NHL
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                                                      • numismatist
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-02-11
                                                        • 2192

                                                        #28
                                                        This BigDeem kid doesn't even know what KenPom is. He's just a kid, let him be stupid. We were all stupid kids one day.
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                                                        • numismatist
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 10-02-11
                                                          • 2192

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by BigDeem5
                                                          So why is it so vital?
                                                          He just spelled it out for you.
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                                                          • Bcatswin
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 12-21-10
                                                            • 13931

                                                            #30
                                                            A win is a win
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