If you are currently in the U.S. and planning to travel to london for a year can you still us U.S. sportsbooks. I think some are U.S. only.. like betonline might be like that and some don't offer bonuses for non-U.S. users? I am still a U.S. citizen but will be in london for a year... you think there will be any problems with that. Will it be actually easier to move money? What do you think or know. Thanks
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Yes you can.
Why you'd want to when you can get paid within five minutes of the result by a UK book is beyond me, but yes, you can.Comment -
Mikey you make sense a lot
If possible bet live in walk in sportsbooksComment -
Like Mikey said you can walk at any book in London and place your bet in person paying cash. Why go online to place a bet when you can socialize with fellow degenerates at the bookie's office smoking cigars and having a beer?Comment -
So do you. I didn't realise posting and gambling were more important than family until you said it, that's why you're a posting legend pal.Originally posted by jjgoldComment -
Yeh Mikey
Posting is all I knowComment -
If you are going to be in the UK for a year, make sure you open a bank account and then accounts with bunch of UK / Ireland / Gibraltar -based online sportsbooks (leave Betfair / spread betting firms ). Though these books are not open to American residents (and in most cases citizens), they will never ask for your ID. You will always find a better line at one of these books than off-shore ones and you can continue playing there when you move out.
Disregard above suggestion if you are just an action player. Walking into a betting shop will be easier.Comment -
There are many reasons why but I do not wish to discuss them on a forum.Originally posted by englishmike
Are you saying I can open sports betting account with all these guys if I go there for a year? Betfair I thought was very good.. it is an exchange correct? You are saying I can use them. If they ask for ID it will be from the U.S. though.Comment -
Can I open moneybookers?Comment -
In the UK you need to be 18 to be abale to bet. When you arrive, the first thing you do is open a bank account. When the account is opened they will give you an ATM/Debit card, this is how the books take their money, they also pay it back to the card. With the bank account open, you then open up 50 accounts at 50 different books and play the 'join up bonus' at every one, you become a 'bonus whore.'Originally posted by gm_mets85
It will take you so long to get through the bonuses that I doubt you'd use any 'real' money over a year. If you win, the money is sent to your bank account, no i.d. needed, and even if it was, you'll be resident in the UK, youve done nothing wrong.
Now the good bit. When you come back to the USA, you keep your UK bank account, leave £1.00 in their to keep it running. From the US you can wire money to the UK bank anytime you want and hey presto, you have 50 euro/uk books available to bet with. If you win, withdraw the money to your UK bank account and withdraw it here in the US with the UK atm card.
With the bonus system the way it is, this really is a fantastic oppurtunity for you, play wisely.Comment -
Originally posted by englishmike
Many Euro books will require an official gov't id from Great Britain. Neteller and Moneybookers certainly do.
Can you really open a bank account as a foreigner with only a passport and no official ****? You certainly can't most places I've been.Comment -
Yes, no problem, he has a legitimate reason to have the need for a bank account, he's there for a year. As long as he can show he's of a proper legal status he can get an account. Top takeit one step further, I've opened up half-a-dozen US bank accounts with a UK drivers liscence and passport.Originally posted by durito
As for books needing I.D, it's irrelevent where he's from if he's resident in the UK. I've never been asked to provide any sort of I.D. when I've opened accounts, it's all done with your bank, I suppose they assume if you have a UK bank account you're a UK citizen, I don't know, but as I say, I've never been asked for I.D. upon sign upand the fact is, he's planning on being there for a year on the correct legal status, he's entitled to bet whereever he wants.Comment -
If he is in London for a year he is not a tourist. He is either working or going to college so he can open a bank account.Originally posted by duritoComment -
Pavy: Hope you were on this gem earlier pal.
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Certainly in the USA banking is easy. Do you think I can open a UK bank account with a USA passport and USA driving license?Originally posted by englishmike
I've been asked for a Colombian ID before they will process withdrawals to neteller from several European books.Originally posted by englishmikeComment -
Durito, you miss a fundamental point regarding withdrawals. You've been asked for Columbian I'd. because you're in Columbia, he'd be making withdrawals by clicking a button and sending the money to a UK bank account, in a books eyes theres a massive difference becuase to all intents and purposes they have no clue he's American. The bank account is the key.
As for your banking question, yes, if you can prove you live at a UK address and prove you are theirlegally, yes, no problem, your Columbian I'D. will be just fine. Have you ever considered how many 'foreigners' are in the UK workng and studying?Comment -
Right I understand if I have a student or working **** accounts should be no problem.
But, I don't.
I'm asking if I fly there as a tourist and go into a bank with my passport, will they open an account?Comment -
I see what your saying durito I doubt you can just walk in a UK bank with a U.S. passport and open an account because you will probably need to provide proof of address etc just like you have to do here in the U.S.Comment -
Not without a permanant UK address, but....
If you said you were there for 6 months and needed to deposit money, and you had the UK address, i'd put your chances at 70-30 in your favour, but I can't answer for sure. The original poster would have no trouble however and nor would you if fit the 'legal' criteria.
Opening a bank account in the UK is a pretty simple thing to do, as you pointed out it is in the US and at the right time on the right day you could probably say your name was Mickey Mouse and get one, it's not hard.Comment -
the original poster would have an address, so would Durito if he was staying there long enough. Also, if you have a friend in the UK willing to let you use his address you have a UK address, it's not hard.Originally posted by MoneySportsGuyComment -
For what it's worth, I was able to open a bank account in the U.S. before I moved down here, with just a passport (and no U.S. address yet, they were fine with a Canadian address). Didn't even expect to be able to, just happened to walk by a bank and gave it a shot, and it worked.Originally posted by MoneySportsGuyComment -
i really just want british citizenshipComment -
englishmike,
where are you at? UK or U.S.?Comment -
yeah would be nice to have dual citizenship with UKComment -
people have that I wonder how they handle the situations where its only U.S. or only UK at the sportsbooks?Comment -
Originally posted by durito
marry me.Comment -
Born and bred in England, stole one of your American women and married her and now live legally near L.A and have done for three years permanently, five years on and off, I lived in UK for 35 years. Here with a green card which will eventually lead to perminent resident status and give me dual citzenship. I have a one-year-son, when he becomes a degenerate gambler he'll open his bank account with his UK passport because he's a lucky boy, dual citizen.Originally posted by MoneySportsGuyComment -
DittoOriginally posted by Sinister CatComment -
And Durito...
to give you an idea how easy the bonus whoring is, it's all done on bank account number and address in the UK. By opening up different bank accounts at different addresses that give you different debit cards, you can claim the same bonuses three times at each book with seperate accounts.Comment -
It's something I may look at doing. Assuming they don't implement a tax on gambling winnings anytime soon.
I would want it in lieu of my US citizenship, not additionally.Comment -
Yes I would be working/studying. I would be working in the financial district in London. I am thinking about accepting. So I would have a ****. I have to open a bank account there any way? So no money bookers though?
And with this bonus whoring this.. are there really 50 places to do this at. And something I notice with UK books is that their bonus is like 50 Euros or something small and not a % like U.S. books... How much can you really make off of this?Comment -
The bonus thing is different at every book but for UK customers, if it's a small bonus it normally means there is no rollover requirement.Originally posted by gm_mets85Comment -
Gambling in the UK is your buisness. if you decide to declare it it would be up to the individual but nobody does.Originally posted by durito
In lieu of your US citizenship? Can you clarify that?Comment -
Spain is the easiest route to an EU passport durito. 3 years of residence and you can apply for it. Residence can mean to own real estate and live there atleast 6 months and 1 day. Spanish banks are financing Americans for real estate now a days. Flats are realitively cheap, a small down payment and yearly extended stay can be your best investment.Originally posted by durito
With a Spain passport you can based your business out of the UK.Comment -
Solid post.Originally posted by RogueJurorComment
