AAPL what are we doing?

Deuce · 01-16-13, 04:28 PM

Long term you want to hold. Going to rise trillions in the next decade. Depends on what you're looking for. Long term it's there, short term, it's a gamble.

nosniboR11 · 01-16-13, 04:37 PM

figure it out yourself

shari91 · 01-16-13, 04:38 PM

Hold until you can sell for what you paid (if that happens). People are clueing in that Apple products are overpriced and overrated. And their competitors are smoking them as far as actual product performance and capability is concerned. It's not nice to feel like a sucker when you see your friends with better gadgets with better battery life and laptops that do the same thing as yours yet you paid a lot more. They'll always have their fanbois but their market is eroding.

SteelRain · 01-16-13, 04:40 PM

long time apple lover here, my next phone will be a Samsung and my next tablet will be windows or google

ACoochy · 01-16-13, 04:40 PM

Johnny I told u months ago in a thread to sell sell sell...

Have been making a killing laying this share of l8...

So tell me what makes it SO different to other electronics companies because I've forgotten?? Ty

jgilmartin · 01-16-13, 04:40 PM

With the lower-priced iPhone they are currently working on, they should get a boost in emerging markets; apparently that won't be released until late 2013, though.

trytrytry · 01-16-13, 04:47 PM

is this the thread where you steal 333 more points from me on some head to head stock matchup?

pavyracer · 01-16-13, 04:48 PM

Sell Apple. Buy more Facebook and Nokia.

a4u2fear · 01-16-13, 04:51 PM

hold.

SBR_John · 01-16-13, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by ACoochy

Johnny I told u months ago in a thread to sell sell sell...

Have been making a killing laying this share of l8...

So tell me what makes it SO different to other electronics companies because I've forgotten?? Ty

At 11.5 times earnings I just can't not nibble here. I traded in my iPhone for a GalaxyIII a while back and seriously, I'm not impressed. It's definitely not as easy to use. Anyway I think AAPL is over sold. They are a lock to earn $50 this year and maybe even $60. At $60 they will carry an 8.5 PE. They are too good to trade at an 8.5.

BIGDAY · 01-16-13, 05:20 PM

I'm big on financials in 2013.

Banks and Insurance.

ACoochy · 01-16-13, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

At 11.5 times earnings I just can't not nibble here. I traded in my iPhone for a GalaxyIII a while back and seriously, I'm not impressed. It's definitely not as easy to use. Anyway I think AAPL is over sold. They are a lock to earn $50 this year and maybe even $60. At $60 they will carry an 8.5 PE. They are too good to trade at an 8.5.

Whilst i agree that would be a solid P/E my concern lies in future growth.

Where in the industry are they market leading with the ability to develop a product that can differentiate itself from the field?

I dont have the confidence that they are looking into the future as much as they were when Jobs was under the helm and in the field of electronics your dead in the water if your R&D isnt several years ahead...

Even with that P/E their marketshare will continue to diminish imo partially because like FB more people are leaving the product than joining (well at least in western markets anyway. Asia completely different story).

GL whatever you decide here Johnnie...

frognose20 · 01-16-13, 05:26 PM

Apple earnings reports come out on the 23rd and the stock usually sells off before earnings. So don't be surprised if it goes to mid 400's by then. If they miss earnings this time it will be the first time they missed 3 reports in a row so you could see low 400's by the end of the month. But if they have a good report then it could be the start of another rally like last year.

Delicious · 01-17-13, 12:41 AM

When are you going to give an update about BI??

you guys cut ties with J7?? Who is going to handle disputes?

Seriously...... What is going on?

Dozer..... John?

Thanks

The Kraken · 01-17-13, 12:49 AM

F up 40% since I told you to buybuybuy... Hope you got in on it. F will be at 20 by years end. Your Welcome.

Also, I hope you shorted CHK when i gave that as well, they were 23. Somewhere around 18 now.

sbrhedge · 01-17-13, 12:58 AM

in the time that you wasted trying to pick bottoms in AAPL,

you could have bought stuff like DDD, RAX, V, PPG.

time = money. focus on the movers.

Footballtime · 01-17-13, 12:59 AM

Hope you lose it all..................................... ..........

Delicious · 01-17-13, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by Footballtime

Hope you lose it all..................................... ..........

just trying to hang on tell that pro membership expires?

pavyracer · 01-23-13, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Sell Apple. Buy more Facebook and Nokia.

Will be happy if you can sell Apple at $450 tomorrow.

Shortstop · 01-24-13, 06:21 AM

Looking for advice as to where to invest your take of that $1.5 Million, right?

ACoochy · 01-24-13, 06:27 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Will be happy if you can sell Apple at $450 tomorrow.

Pavy i tried to warn the guy...

Simply a overpriced consumer electronics company...

Optional · 01-24-13, 06:47 AM

This a long article but well worth the read if you are buying Apple.

What I take from it is the company died with Jobs and it's quickly moving to the bureaucratic mess it was during the jobs exile years.

SIRI RISING: The Inside Story Of Siri's Origins -- And Why She Could Overshadow The iPhone

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/22/siri-do-engine-apple-iphone_n_2499165.html

SIRI RISING: The Inside Story Of Siri's Origins -- And Why She Could Overshadow The iPhone

Sportsbetting123 · 01-24-13, 07:19 AM

$425 would be a good place to buy more and get your average cost down. Best of luck

gregm · 01-24-13, 11:24 AM

What a mess.

Apple Inc. (AAPL)

-NasdaqGS

460.58 53.43(10.39%) 11:23AM EST

pavyracer · 01-24-13, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by ACoochy

Pavy i tried to warn the guy...

Simply a overpriced consumer electronics company...

Well I told him to sell too at $525 but he thought he was getting a bargain. I actually told all my friends and family to sell when it was $700 and every tout analyst in the world was predicting it will go to $1200.

k13 · 01-24-13, 11:53 AM

nosniboR11 · 01-24-13, 01:40 PM

John where was this type of thread for BetIslands?

Do you ask the opinion of the forum on that subject?

Time will fix everything right. Your time is coming

ACoochy · 01-24-13, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Well I told him to sell too at $525 but he thought he was getting a bargain. I actual told all my friends and family to sell when it was $700 and every tout analyst in the world was predicting it will got to $1200.

Pavy I seriously wouldnt be surprised if this stock was $350 by years end and continue to slowly decline after that.

Haven't seen anything from apple to suggest this shouldn't occur...

tenbas · 01-24-13, 02:56 PM

It was $700 just months ago, this company is strong. But so is Facebook. They are real world examples if you have too much money and don't invest it wisely. To let money sitting there is -EV and share holders know that. Both companies fell.

pavyracer · 01-24-13, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by ACoochy

Pavy I seriously wouldnt be surprised if this stock was $350 by years end and continue to slowly decline after that.

Haven't seen anything from apple to suggest this shouldn't occur...

Everyone is catching up to them. They are not inventing anymore. The iphone6 will be a repackaged iphone5 and people are not stupid.

gregm · 01-25-13, 01:57 AM

Apple pulled the Nasdaq down, losing $226 billion in market value since the $700 numbers. People on the tech sites and stock sites were saying how amazing how much power of one man over a company, Apple suffering from saturation of markets, lack of new markets,Cook not able to fill the void,etc.. The fact is it is still at around $450 a share, higher than any time when Steve Jobs was alive, it closed at $378.25 on Oct. 5 on the day Jobs died.

Still an amazing run if people thought this company wouldnt be the same without Jobs, the best quote I read in an article saying apple is a bargain. http://www.latimes.com/business/mone...,6902830.story

"Apple's quarterly earnings report Wednesday would have been impressive for any other company, but expectations for the maker of popular smartphones, tablets and computers have soared.

“If this was any other company, we'd be breaking out champagne,” Silverblatt said. "

ACoochy · 01-25-13, 03:11 AM

Originally posted by gregm

"Apple's quarterly earnings report Wednesday would have been impressive for any other company, but expectations for the maker of popular smartphones, tablets and computers have soared.

“If this was any other company, we'd be breaking out champagne,” Silverblatt said. "

Agree but AAPL isnt just any other company.

They WERE the revolutionary innovator and as such were able to justify the heavy share price but the gap in competition has closed to such a point that they are no longer seen as the market leaders in some parts of the world and it doesnt look like its going to get better anytime soon.

Maybe they just set the bar too high and we the masses had unrealistic expectations...

flyingillini · 01-25-13, 03:14 AM

Still a very strong company, expectations were set very high. People are overreacting, buy buy buy.

eidolon · 01-25-13, 03:21 AM

I feel like the value is very saturated, and that is why it has been dropping like crazy recently.

There are better valued stocks out there.

I would look into ****.
Citi hasn't moved much since it crashed; been bouncing around 3 and 4 for awhile. But with the housing dilemma calming down, I wouldn't be surprised to see Citi at 12 in 4 or 5 years