49ers -3 in Atlanta is a joke

[PAULYPOKER]

I can't decipher your jibberish above. All I know is about your jibberish below:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/2076306-my-steelers-will-save-me-all.html#post17146436

Best I can figure, your Steelers lost and now you are doing your best to mush the Ravens.

Nevermind

I just noticed U R a BrokeDikkFukk who has no Value on this forum whatsoever and are useless to me......

Your SBR net worth is = to an under the bridge homeless person on the street............

[Serbone]

One more reason to believe Falcons win.

Expect at least one closely officiated game: Terry McAulay is the referee for the Atlanta-San Francisco game, and Bill Leavy will be handling the New England-Baltimore game. Don't be surprised to see a few extra penalties. The debate is always whether the officials will call a tight game or let the players play. McAulay's games tend to see more penalties than average. His 16.3 penalties per game is tied for the second most among the NFL crews. Cornerbacks need to be cautious, because his crews watch pass interference closely. His crews ranked second with seven illegal contact calls, but only 11 pass interferences were called during his games. The Falcons were the least penalized team in the NFL -- 55 penalties called against them for 415 yards. The 49ers need to be on guard because they had 109 penalties, seventh most in the league. Offensive linemen also need to be careful because his crews watch blockers closely. McAulay's 52 holding calls tied with Ron Winter for the most among the officials. As a result, McAulay's games average 44 points a game, 1.7 below the league average.

Good info!

Screams "over"!

[NOboy]

I can tell by a lot of comments in this thread that not many have watched a full niners game all season.... If you think Kap can't sling it and Rw is a better qb you are seriously on some major drugs... Or clinically insane.. Go ahead and throw your money away though..

sure kap can sling it, but is he accurate? to say that he is better than RW is asinine. RW has no weapons on offense to throw to, his only weapon is lynch out of the backfield. he makes incredible decisions and is ridiculously accurate. kap on the other hand is inconsistent and has so so accuracy. he also has weapons at his disposal.

[Father]

Who said Kap was better than RG3 and RW? The Niners are better than the Falcons I think is what I am hearing. A lot better.

[pavyracer]

Who said Kap was better than RG3 and RW? The Niners are better than the Falcons I think is what I am hearing. A lot better.

Falcons have the better Wide Receivers, the better Quarterback and the better Defensive backs. Where did you hear the Niners are better? Sure they have a better running back but the running backs are easier to shut out than Wide Receivers and QB.

Grounding the Falcons’ air attack could prove more problematic.

White (92 receptions, 1,351 yards, seven TDs) and Jones (79 receptions, 1,198 yards, 10 TDs) make up one of four duos to eclipse 1,000 yards receiving this season. Atlanta nearly became the only team with three players to surpass the 1,000-yard mark, with Gonzalez finishing with 93 receptions for 930 yards and eight touchdowns.

“They’re certainly up there as one of the best tandems in the league, if not the best,” 49ers defensive coordinator Vic Fangio said. “But the whole crux of their offense is not just those two guys, it’s all 11. You talk about defending the receivers and you have to, well how does that affect Gonzalez? How does that affect the running game? So you’ve got to have a good plan and a good mix to stop this offense. It’s not just the receiver-driven offense.”

All-Pro linebackers Patrick Willis and NaVorro Bowman might draw the toughest assignment.

Both will have a big hand in defending the 36-year-old Gonzalez, who has caught more passes than anyone in NFL history except 49ers Hall of Famer Jerry Rice. Gonzalez is likely to retire at the of this season but is still a matchup nightmare, showing so much when he caught a 19-yard pass from Ryan to set up Matt Bryant’s winning field goal in the final seconds against Seattle last weekend.

Willis said everybody will have to be focused on their role or Ryan and his receivers will carve up San Francisco’s defense.

[Serbone]

Falcons have the better Wide Receivers, the better Quarterback and the better Defensive backs. Where did you hear the Niners are better? Sure they have a better running back but the running backs are easier to shut out than Wide Receivers and QB.

I would give 49ers edges:
OL (BIG)
LB (BIG)
RB (BIG)
DL (significant)
Coaching (significant)
DB (slight)

Falcons:
WR (BIG)
Place kicker (significant)
QB (slight... Ryan is established but K might outplay him... a wild card... I do not think Falcons will bother him much in the pocket)

[CakeMan]

So what are the early leans here for you Serbone?
For me:
9ers/Under

Pats/Under

[pavyracer]

I would give 49ers edges:
OL (BIG)
LB (BIG)
RB (BIG)
DL (significant)
Coaching (significant)
DB (slight)

Falcons:
WR (BIG)
Place kicker (significant)
QB (slight... Ryan is established but K might outplay him... a wild card... I do not think Falcons will bother him much in the pocket)

How come the 49ers have better defensive backs? Falcons defense has 20 INT and 49ers have 14 INT. And Kaepernic is not even close to Ryan. Ryan has almost as many TD's this year as Manning and Brady. How many TD's had Kaepernick thrown this year? 6? Coaching? What has Jim Harbaugh done in the playoffs besides losing to Giants at home last year?

[Serbone]

So what are the early leans here for you Serbone?
For me:
9ers/Under

Pats/Under

My leans now are big 49ers -4 & medium over 49 & medium NE -8, no opinon on o/u waiting for weather but probably will not play.
AND I am not dumb enough to be overly influenced by last weeks 49er blowout with Falcons medicore showing. Matchups, strength of schedule, etc... 49ers.

[TheKLB]

don't forget minnesota. and got blown out at home by giants and on the road by seattle. last i checked atl wasnt blown out this year

what other team can say that?
all i can see are pats.

Week 1 - @Lambeau Field 30-22 Win
Week 12 - @Superdome 31-21 Win
Week 15 - @Gillette Stadium 41-34 Win

These are all games most teams would lose. Come on. They beat the Pats at home in December. Tom Brady WAS 22-1 at home in December before Kaep marched in there and completed 3 more TD passes than Tom Brady.

Someone said Ryan was Mr. Clutch since he came into the league. Why was he 1 and done in his first 3 playoff appearances?

@pavyracer - he didnt start until these last few weeks because Alex Smith was something like 20-6-1 under Harbaugh. Thats a pretty damn good record. The 49ers are a massively more dynamic under Kaep than Sea or Was. And unlike them, he doesn't get injured easily. He was crushed by 2 defenders on a rush in the GB Divisional game and got up like he didn't feel it. GB defenders were still on the ground.

And who said 49ers lost both games to STL? They only lost 1.

Yes, I am a little biased toward the niners btw

[Serbone]

How come the 49ers have better defensive backs? Falcons defense has 20 INT and 49ers have 14 INT. And Kaepernic is not even close to Ryan. Ryan has almost as many TD's this year as Manning and Brady. How many TD's had Kaepernick thrown this year? 6? Coaching? What has Jim Harbaugh done in the playoffs besides losing to Giants at home last year?

Ints do not tell the whole story... 49ers 2CB and 2 safeties are fundamentally stronger in coverage, tackling, etc. Allow 40 ypg less, and they played a MUCH tougher schedule, too. And faced primo passers Rogers-Stafford-E Manning-Brees-Brady-Rogers again. Did WELL.
Falcons gave up 385 yds to midget Wilson.
I agree that Ryan overall is rated much higher, a pocket passer with credentials, what I am saying is that Kaepernick has vast potential in this spot, and with NO pass rush (Abrahms hurting, to boot) he might run wild again and also hit some big plays and be the better QB in this game.
Falcons coach is a screw up, always looks confused, he reminds me of Les Miles of LSU when decision time occurs. Harbaugh is ok in the playoffs, you cite one game... but hey the Falcons went, what, 0-3 until last week's squeaker. Overall it appears Harbaugh is superior in producing results in his short head coach experience.
KEY is superior SF OL, LB, RB, and much better DL, and imo DB's... those are huge factors: "in the trenches". SF should be able to run for 150+ and pass for 250+. Minimum.
I respect your opinion.
We shall see.

[Giogeorge]

I like atl +3 first half

[TheKLB]

How come the 49ers have better defensive backs? Falcons defense has 20 INT and 49ers have 14 INT. And Kaepernic is not even close to Ryan. Ryan has almost as many TD's this year as Manning and Brady. How many TD's had Kaepernick thrown this year? 6? Coaching? What has Jim Harbaugh done in the playoffs besides losing to Giants at home last year?

Harbaugh is 2-1 in playoff games. One of those being what is considered 1 of the greatest game of all time against NO. Mike Smith's playoff record? 1-3. All home games I believe.

[pavyracer]

Harbaugh is 2-1 in playoff games. One of those being what is considered 1 of the greatest game of all time against NO. Mike Smith's playoff record? 1-3. All home games I believe.

You are wrong. Both Harbaugh and Mike Smith have the same number of losses at home.

[pavyracer]

Ints do not tell the whole story... 49ers 2CB and 2 safeties are fundamentally stronger in coverage, tackling, etc.
They played a MUCH tougher schedule, too. Falcons gave up 385 yds to midget Wilson. I agree that Ryan is rated much higher, a pocket passer with credentials, what I am saying is that Kaepernick has vast potential and with NO pass rush might run wild again and also hit some big plays and be the better QB in this game. Falcons coach is a screw up, reminds me of Les Miles of LSU when decision time occurs. Harbaugh does not have the playoff credentials, but hey Falcons went, what, 0-4 until last weeks squeaker. Overall it appears Harbaugh is superior in producing results in his short head coach experience.
KEY is superior SF OL, LB, RB, and better DL, imo DB's... those are huge factors: "in the trenches". SF should be able to run for 150+ and pass for 250+.
I respect your opinion.
We shall see.

What the hell does it mean they are fundamentally stronger in coverage, tackling, etc.? How in the hell can you post something like this? You saying Asante Samuel who played for the Patriots in playoff teams doesn't know how to cover or tackle?

[str]

This line is crazy.

SF was barely -3 at home to GB.

This line suggests that Atl. @ SF would be SF -10 ,10 1/2, or 11.

That suggests that GB vs. ATL on a neutral field would be GB -7 or -7 1/2 or -8.

The public was so swayed by last weeks performances it produced roughly a touchdown swing in the line.

[TheKLB]

You are wrong. Both Harbaugh and Mike Smith have the same number of losses at home.

Ok. But you are wrong in saying Harbaugh has done nothing in the playoffs. .667 vs .250. Hmm, ill take the .667.

[Serbone]

What the hell does it mean they are fundamentally stronger in coverage, tackling, etc.? How in the hell can you post something like this? You saying Asante Samuel who played for the Patriots in playoff teams doesn't know how to cover or tackle?

Pavy I did some editing if you go player by player and look at results against stronger teams and stronger passers and All-Pro and all of that, I rate the 4 SF DB's higher than Atlanta. Again, a KEY is that SF played a much stronger schedule and played UP for the big teams... sure, had some obvious letdowns.
It is debateable, I say SF DB's are better.
You HAVE to agree, SF: OL, LB, and RB = absolutely superior, and DL is better for sure especially with Abrahm's injury. Odds are he will play again but be ineffective and not even finish.
I wish SF hadn't blown away GB the line went up because of it... and IMO Seattle screwed up, came away with 0 points in first half... Lynch fumbled on 30, plus twice they were in red zone and called bad plays, mismanaged clock and personnel. Normally they'd a gone into half time with 10-21 pts, had 0. Had to abandon their run first with Lynch game plan, rookie QB Wilson still stung Falcons for 28 pts in 2nd half.
If Seattle played at Atlanta this weekend again, I would take Seattle + 3 for biggest bet in years.
This week, back to reality, IMO SF is better than Seattle, sure Kapernick is a ???......... if there was a pass rush, he might make mistakes... but I do not see it.

[bh9889]

lol a much tougher scedule? They're ranked like 3 spots ahead of Atlanta....LOL

[pavyracer]

Falcons DB's shut down the Broncos, Giants, Cowboys, and Saints WR's. These are some of the best WR's in the league if you played fantasy football this year. Demarius Thomas, Eric Decker, Victor Cruz, Hakeem Nicks, Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Marquis Colston were in the top 10 WR's week after week.

The only two teams with decent receivers the 49ers faced are Packers and Patriots and Brady and Rodgers torched them. So I have no idea where you get your stats that 49ers have faced better receivers than Falcons DB's. They even faced Calvin Johnson in Detroit. They are battle tested and ready to play.

[8ArIvd5]

Remember this is a team game and depends on how each side plays as a unit. A few stand out players don't win games.

Play at home in a dome where the Falcons WR's will be flying by the slow 49ers corners. Falcons will keep possession as they usually do at home and chew the clock. There is nothing that can stop the Atlanta offense from scoring. Broncos didn't stop them, Giants didn't stop them, Saints didn't stop them. Every time that comes to the fiery Georgia dome goes back home with a loss.

You're basing the dominance of the Falcons on the Saints D? That's hilarious. Broncos have a good D, but they're not as good as SF D. The Giants D was weak this year.

And how is the Falcons weak D going to stop the 49ers dominant run game? How is Atl going to get the SF O off the field?

They dont match up well. SF Defense is no match for the Falcon offense. The Falcons will score at will (just like last week) on the overrated SF defense that has given up an average of 30pts a game last 4. The good news is that those six SF pro bowlers will actually be able to play in the pro-bowl next week. What else so you need to know?

Don't match up well? The 49ers have the second best pass D giving up 6.1 YPA and their pass rating against is 78. The Falcons have the seventh best pass offense with 7.7 YPA and their pass rating is 99.1. The 49ers defense is tied for the third best run D allowing 3.7 YPA. The Falcons are tied for the third worst run O compiling 3.7 YPA. Don't see how an offense that can only pass the ball out-matches a top-3 all-around D.

[pavyracer]

How did the Falcons keep the Broncos, Giants, Saints, Cowboys, Redskins offense of the field? Check the time of possession of Falcons in home games. It's like 65% or better.

[Killer_Demo]

ATL could barely beat Oakland at home LOL

[8ArIvd5]

Falcons DB's shut down the Broncos, Giants, Cowboys, and Saints WR's. These are some of the best WR's in the league if you played fantasy football this year. Demarius Thomas, Eric Decker, Victor Cruz, Hakeem Nicks, Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Marquis Colston were in the top 10 WR's week after week.

The only two teams with decent receivers the 49ers faced are Packers and Patriots and Brady and Rodgers torched them. So I have no idea where you get your stats that 49ers have faced better receivers than Falcons DB's. They even faced Calvin Johnson in Detroit. They are battle tested and ready to play.

All of those fantasy stand-outs will be watching the 49ers' fantasy scrubs playing in the championship game. Guess those fantasy points didn't put points on the scoreboard.

And the 49ers are 3-0 SU and ATS in the games they got torched in.

[bh9889]

San Franciscos played much more defensive teams. They only played a couple teams with good offenses and they scorched Niners D.

[bh9889]

ATL could barely beat Oakland at home LOL

Niners lost to the Giants and Rams at Home LOL

[8ArIvd5]

Pavy, you're comparing the 49ers to three teams that didn't make the playoffs and two teams that were one-and-done. Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

[bh9889]

sORRY "Tied", they got their ass whipped by them in St. Louis.

[NOboy]

not sure how anyone can back a team giving points on the road that allowed 28 ppg in their last 4 road games, allowing 78% of opponent RZ possessions to turn to TDs, have a 1st year starter with 10 starts on the road. this 'GOOD' secondary is average on the road in pass d. allowing 233 ypg through the air.

[Killer_Demo]

Niners lost to the Giants and Rams at Home LOL

and your point is? SF dominates this game Im riding with the kid Colin from the next town over from me TURLOCK CALI

[Father]

Falcons have the better Wide Receivers, the better Quarterback and the better Defensive backs. Where did you hear the Niners are better? Sure they have a better running back but the running backs are easier to shut out than Wide Receivers and QB.

Did you really just say they have better DB's than SF? They are going to get ran all over. Besides the whole team, you will see how these corners TRY to tackle. If they aren't getting manhandled blocked by big, strong, MEN. This is going to be a shitshow. I'm going to enjoy it very much.

[NOboy]

ATL could barely beat Oakland at home LOL

SF could barely beat arizona at home. SF got torched by the giants at home. they got torched by seattle on the road.

[NOboy]

and your point is? SF dominates this game Im riding with the kid Colin from the next town over from me TURLOCK CALI

you point out that falcons had trouble with oakland but when he states that SF had trouble with teams you ask what the point is....comical

[Killer_Demo]

you point out that falcons had trouble with oakland but when he states that SF had trouble with teams you ask what the point is....comical

Rams and Giants are better than oakland...ATL barely beat Oakland...SF is the play newb

[8ArIvd5]

Last year the Giants lose to the Skins twice. Worked out well for them.