so please clarify this rule

[wtt0315]

ok so watching the houston game and clearly a fumble but they give a incomplete pass to luck. Because they said the arm was going forward. So if that is true and the ball only goes 2 yards how come no intentional grounding since he was not out of pocket and there is no one around him.

[QuantumLeap]

The key word is "intentional". If it slips out of his hand there is no "intent" to throw the ball.

[wtt0315]

i get that but when you are going down in a sack what is to keep you from accidently throwing it down

[5mike5]

The key word is "intentional". If it slips out of his hand there is no "intent" to throw the ball.

this

[Maverick11]

All around terrible call by the refs. That was a fumble.

[itchypickle]

Shitty call I agree (I'm on the Colts today so set that aside) but they later said since contact was made - him being sacked- it changes the rule of how far the ball is thrown. That crazy fine print in the rule book I guess.

[InTheRed]

NFL Rule 3, Section 22, Article 2, Note 2. When [an offensive] player is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass, even if the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body. Also, if the player has tucked the ball into his body and then loses possession, it is a fumble.


Very simple. Its been on the books now for 13 years. It amazes me when people don't get it. It is a forward pass until the hand stops going forward and the ball it brought back. It doesn't matter if its a pump fake, spike, or if the QB is making fun of a gay person. If the arm goes forward, its a passing motion.

Luck's play was yet another perfect example.


As for the intentional grounding, everyone is right. INTENTIONAL is the key word. Without that you know how many calls would come in a heavy rain storm?


To the OP, I hope you are just blinded because you are either a Texans fan of have taken that side of the game. If the answer is no to both of those, you should not be allowed to bet until you know the rules of the game.

[wtt0315]

Got it teacher..
one day I will be as smart as you, but I won't hold my breath.
Still a fumble.

NFL Rule 3, Section 22, Article 2, Note 2. When [an offensive] player is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass, even if the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body. Also, if the player has tucked the ball into his body and then loses possession, it is a fumble.


Very simple. Its been on the books now for 13 years. It amazes me when people don't get it. It is a forward pass until the hand stops going forward and the ball it brought back. It doesn't matter if its a pump fake, spike, or if the QB is making fun of a gay person. If the arm goes forward, its a passing motion.

Luck's play was yet another perfect example.


As for the intentional grounding, everyone is right. INTENTIONAL is the key word. Without that you know how many calls would come in a heavy rain storm?


To the OP, I hope you are just blinded because you are either a Texans fan of have taken that side of the game. If the answer is no to both of those, you should not be allowed to bet until you know the rules of the game.

[5mike5]

there is always at least 1 smartass that has to chime in when u just ask a question

[wtt0315]

yeah espically when they make comments like i should understand the rules before i bet on. Hell i have been hitting 58 percent in my soccer thread and I have never watched a full match in my life or can i name 1 player

there is always at least 1 smartass that has to chime in when u just ask a question

[wtt0315]

And on top of that I am pulling for the texans, since this is the only way the broncos can get the 1 seed, but still a fumble

[wtt0315]

err cant edit i mean the colts

And on top of that I am pulling for the texans, since this is the only way the broncos can get the 1 seed, but still a fumble