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[dj_destroyer]

Bill Dozer is good peoples..

I don't believe that article. At least not the Dozer part...Bill Dozer is a very nice vato.

Mayan, don't be an idiot. Money rules everything.

I agree he is nice but nice people are greedy too.

[onlooker]

I'm glad I only signed up to get into a SBRcontest, and didn't fund BI. I hope everyone gets bailed out, but it doesn't look that way. Fuking sucks.

I'm glad I live in LV, and have the option to leave offshore alone. Which I pretty much did already.

I miss the good ol days of Neteller and Pinnacle for US.

As far as renewing my SBRpro status, if the point option is still available in August, I will renew that way. If I have enough points.

[shari91]

9. We will send somebody by as soon as we get back down there.

Holy hannah.

I don't know any of the Jon questions or the owners of BI questions. I think many of those are posted. I wouldn't post them if I knew. I have employees and their families living in CR.

Brilliant.

[dj_destroyer]

Damn right he is. And so is Walker.

No way those 2 guys sat around not caring if posters got hurt. I'll never believe that for one second.

I know them both, and that's not who they are.

Shut up opie.

Bill even said that it wouldn't have done anything to tell users a week before the close when they first found out as it was already too late...

This suggests that those in the know were keeping quiet just hoping to get some of their money back.

Bill and Walker profited from moving BetIslands from C to B... and they profited from pushing this book onto players... and they profited from referral losses... Let's just say they profited nicely from a bunch of different things.

Now, when the players are screwed and in the gutter -- these two dumbfukks offer half-hearted apologies and illogical excuses while they count their Benjamins.

Why not man up, reach into those deep pockets, and pay the players some of the profits you made by scamming them?

[SBR_John]

I actually believe you, my guess is you dont handle the day to day operations of the business, and you were probably blindsided by this on Sunday. So why not release all the names of the the BI crew? Release their real names, addresses, phone numbers, bank info, etc. You will not only give these players who got ripped off a place to start with getting their $ back or a way for them to pursue it legally, you will show other books SBR doesnt take it lightly when they rip off players. Yea you might lose a sponser or two but it will show SBR really has the players back. I personally didnt have any $ in this mess, but it is very disturbing that you are hiding the thiefs info.

later

This will not be a popular answer, as if any I've made have been, but we don't release that kind of information. We work and live with our families and children here in Costa Rica. Many of the children go to the same school. Bill and I have been commandeered at gun point by the SBG Sportsbook thugs in a documented incident with Tej. Releasing names puts the SBR staff and their families at risk.

[capitalist pig]

This will not be a popular answer, as if any I've made have been, but we don't release that kind of information. We work and live with our families and children here in Costa Rica. Many of the children go to the same school. Bill and I have been commandeered at gun point by the SBG Sportsbook thugs in a documented incident with Tej. Releasing names puts the SBR staff and their families at risk.

Well if Ive learned anything in 50 years on this planet, its that family and children are more important than money, but I dont always feel that way about some of my employees. Good luck with this mess.

later

[Sam Odom]

maybe some people need to be shot

[pokernut9999]

I am lucky enough to have a couple people on the inside and someone who knows what they are up to at this minute. I like most was in the dark when it happened though. I am pretty sure sbr knows what I do but they are being closed lip


You seem to know your shit more than anybody here.

[/QUOTE]

Just curious why your people on the inside did not warn you ahead of time.

[dj_destroyer]

Tough crowd. Stick with the A or better yet the A+ group. If you don't want to play in the contests around here or roll in the SBR sportsbook then don't go Pro. Plenty others will and are doing so in large numbers. We made a mistake and have owned up to it, apologized for it and allowed every voice and shred of evidence to be posted and dissected. Just like you and everyone else we are human and we made a mistake, we will learn from it, make sure its never repeated and do our best to improve.

John,

The problem arises when you force us to sign up at books through your referral links in order to play in contests. It was fine before but now you can't be trusted.

Personally, I will never sign up nor click any of your links, banners, ads or anything of the sort. Just not worth it.

[horja1]

The problem arises when you force us to sign up at books through your referral links in order to play in contests. It was fine before but now you can't be trusted.
Personally, I will never sign up nor click any of your links, banners, ads or anything of the sort. Just not worth it.

No one forces you to play at those books more than the 200 USD required for your PRO membership ...

[Cuse0323]

This will not be a popular answer, as if any I've made have been, but we don't release that kind of information. We work and live with our families and children here in Costa Rica. Many of the children go to the same school. Bill and I have been commandeered at gun point by the SBG Sportsbook thugs in a documented incident with Tej. Releasing names puts the SBR staff and their families at risk.

That's obviously understood and reasonable, just hope people don't believe the rest of the lies. Unfortunately it will be business as usual.

[dj_destroyer]

I have confirmation that BI was accepting deposits as late as December 17th meaning there were NO PROBLEMS with their processor. This, couple with the fact that SBR must have known the book was going under (due to the low amount of revenue created from referral losses) should suggest SBR is done as a review/rating agency.

[Sam Odom]

I have confirmation that BI was accepting deposits as late as December 17th meaning there were NO PROBLEMS with their processor. This, couple with the fact that SBR must have known the book was going under (due to the low amount of revenue created from referral losses) should suggest SBR is done as a review/rating agency.

SBR 'knew' Mid Nov

Left you guys (SBR POSTERS) out to dry in hope of getting their $$$ <--- just the cold hard facts

This this is the business we've chosen

[govolz]

well ... non-pro giving advices to Pro's about renewing their status ... hmm ... I will renew my membership in the next 2-3 weeks because it will cost me nothing and so far this PRO thing worked great for me ...

Bro I've been a member here just as long as you... Just because I didn't give SBR 200$ die st mean I don't read the forum just as much and not more than you... And please tell me more Bout this re upin pro for free... Nothing's free... If ur goin pro again for free then you've beat the system... Now you might be paying points you've won to re up but it ain't free you're giving up points(money) to go pro again... If you think that's free then you are a fool...

[dj_destroyer]

No, no one ever told me they were broke until Sunday. Even then they tried to get another day. I don't know what else was said or when or to whom. I do know they strung us out that all was fine and that payments were on the way. Friday was the day payments would go out and their move and processor issues would be resolved. We were all suspicious the way they were acting, it was all posted here on the forum going back to November completely uncensored to try and figure out what was going on with them.

Wouldn't processor issues justify a rating drop?

This is my biggest problem. No one said anything until it was already over.

But people knew. You knew, John.

[wantitall4moi]

I want to know how much post up CASH accounts that list represents. I still say most of it was air money.

The REAL DUMMIES are guys who actually sent cash to that place, especially if it was more than they took out.

Its one thing to post up a list of account holders with no relevance to what guys started those with actual cash, who started on credit, who was getting paid by SBR and funded there. etc.

Thats why when these places go broke and we get these lists everyone over reacts and loses their minds.

IMO since SBR pimped this book to high every they should be on the hook for every post up dollar sent there as long as the guy had funds in his account. So if Bettor A sent 5K and had 3K in an account that guy is entitled to a 3K CASH settlement If Bettor B sent 2K and had a 5K balance he is entitled to a 2K settlement. If bettor C sent 5K and had a 0 balance he is entitled to 0.

If some shill was paid 20K in post up funds and ran it to 200K and sent ZERO cash there they get nothing either. Thats the price of selling yourself. If an employee of SBR took funds posted up there as payment for their work for SBR and won they get nothing either.

While it isnt always my stance to give dummies money, in this case they are the most entitled to getting money back because they were the ones who were funding this Ponzi scheme. So why give their money to the thieves and guys who never 'invested' any REAL cash?

I know it will never happen, but finding out who the few guys were that were actually posting up with their own money shouldnt be that difficult, and like I said I would imagine their figure is going to come in well under 100K.

[ACoochy]

I have confirmation that BI was accepting deposits as late as December 17th meaning there were NO PROBLEMS with their processor. This, couple with the fact that SBR must have known the book was going under (due to the low amount of revenue created from referral losses) should suggest SBR is done as a review/rating agency.

DJD, who is SBR accountable to
(In terms of a regulatory body) in this matter?

[govolz]

Tough crowd. Stick with the A or better yet the A+ group. If you don't want to play in the contests around here or roll in the SBR sportsbook then don't go Pro. Plenty others will and are doing so in large numbers. We made a mistake and have owned up to it, apologized for it and allowed every voice and shred of evidence to be posted and dissected. Just like you and everyone else we are human and we made a mistake, we will learn from it, make sure its never repeated and do our best to improve.

I agree John we are all human and make mistakes but those mistakes are usually followed by consequences... You make a mistake a rob a bank u pay the price... If you gonna sit there and tell me a multi million dollar business dealing with another multi million dollar business didn't know it was about to go bust until the day of? I ain't no fool... Prime example u think the folks running it and backing it didn't know about it? they sold their shares before it went bust... And the rest were left broke... Sounds familiar huh...

[horja1]

Bro I've been a member here just as long as you...

I joined 14 months before you

Just because I didn't give SBR 200$ die st mean I don't read the forum just as much and not more than you... And please tell me more Bout this re upin pro for free... Nothing's free... If ur goin pro again for free then you've beat the system... Now you might be paying points you've won to re up but it ain't free you're giving up points(money) to go pro again... If you think that's free then you are a fool...

never lost 1 USD from those 400 USD deposited so far to became and remain PRO, that is what I ment by "it will cost me nothing" because I will do the same ...

[Footballtime]

This will not be a popular answer, as if any I've made have been, but we don't release that kind of information. We work and live with our families and children here in Costa Rica. Many of the children go to the same school. Bill and I have been commandeered at gun point by the SBG Sportsbook thugs in a documented incident with Tej. Releasing names puts the SBR staff and their families at risk.

Johnny Boy this isnt the business to be scared in........If you are scared, you are in the wrong business!

[Mikeyanks23]

Johnny Boy this isnt the business to be scared in........If you are scared, you are in the wrong business!

tough guy right here

[paranoyd androyd]

I can see why John is pissed off. 40% (just guessing what SBR's cut is) of $1.5 million is $600,000. That 600k rightfully belongs to SBR.

Poor John.

sarcasm is good for the soul

[Squared Box]

I don't know any of the Jon questions or the owners of BI questions. I think many of those are posted. I wouldn't post them if I knew. I have employees and their families living in CR.

This might explain why a piece of shit book like BetOnline is rated high.

Seriously, if you are going to allow yourself to be intimidated by potential bogeymen, get out of the business.

A year ago, this guy was rock solid. Now he's a thug who will go after your family if his name is exposed?

How laughable.

[Easy-Rider 66]

This might explain why a piece of shit book like BetOnline is rated high.

Seriously, if you are going to allow yourself to be intimidated by potential bogeymen, get out of the business.

A year ago, this guy was rock solid. Now he's a thug who will go after your family if his name is exposed?

How laughable.

Have to disagree. Who really knows the money people behind these gambling operations offshore. Would think that they do not want their info released or consequences could result. Look at Vegas in the 50's and 60's tell me the major players were the bogeymen. You don't bite the hand that feeds you.

[paranoyd androyd]

It sucks that SBR was not Paid for December. Feel bad.

me too bud

[paranoyd androyd]

Shut up opie.

Bill even said that it wouldn't have done anything to tell users a week before the close when they first found out as it was already too late...

This suggests that those in the know were keeping quiet just hoping to get some of their money back.

Bill and Walker profited from moving BetIslands from C to B... and they profited from pushing this book onto players... and they profited from referral losses... Let's just say they profited nicely from a bunch of different things.

Now, when the players are screwed and in the gutter -- these two dumbfukks offer half-hearted apologies and illogical excuses while they count their Benjamins.

Why not man up, reach into those deep pockets, and pay the players some of the profits you made by scamming them?

agreed, that was an incredibly annoying and naive post by opie.

[bubba]

This might explain why a piece of shit book like BetOnline is rated high.

Seriously, if you are going to allow yourself to be intimidated by potential bogeymen, get out of the business.

A year ago, this guy was rock solid. Now he's a thug who will go after your family if his name is exposed?

How laughable.

a year ago? a week ago he was the man behind this sbr sponsor book.

[KGambler]

a year ago? a week ago he was the man behind this sbr sponsor book.

Now he's a potential child killer.

Anyway, I actually respect that SBR finally came out and told us that they are scared to tell us things like real names. I suspected as much, but an explanation was in order.

So far they have still done nothing to help us though. You would expect an affiliate to do something. You would expect a watchdog to do something. So far, nothing...

[CallMeChip]

This will not be a popular answer, as if any I've made have been, but we don't release that kind of information. We work and live with our families and children here in Costa Rica. Many of the children go to the same school. Bill and I have been commandeered at gun point by the SBG Sportsbook thugs in a documented incident with Tej. Releasing names puts the SBR staff and their families at risk.

If you were ever commandeered at gunpoint, what would make you stay in a business like that... I might see that as a sign to find a new line of work.

[bettilimbroke999]

There are currently 6937 users online. 1660 members and 5277 guests


Business as usual, SBR has not lost any damaging amount of members/lurkers whatsoever................

New suckers are born every minute, SBR pulls its dick out of one and shoves it in another

[bettilimbroke999]

SBR on BetIslands

[Footballtime]

Not sure why We cant get BI Jon's real name or the supposed money man for BI real name..............He has all our real names, and probably our addresses.........

[bubba]

If you were ever commandeered at gunpoint, what would make you stay in a business like that... I might see that as a sign to find a new line of work.

wasnt for the love of sbrmembers, that is for sure. for the money apparently.

[bettilimbroke999]

wasnt for the love of sbrmembers, that is for sure. for the money apparently.

They did it all for the members!

John and Bill would take a bullet for you!

[zoo youk]

some one feel like giving me quick cliff note of where this all stands right now? seems like every one stopped commenting the storm has calmed? did John or SBR address everything and everyone get answers?