bodybuilding.com poster commits suicide live on Justin.tv

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  • Panic
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-06-08
    • 10367

    #36
    Originally posted by BadNina
    Panic, I love seeing this side of you.
    I smile real big when I know I've pleased you, Nina.
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    • BadNina
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-27-07
      • 10491

      #37
      If things don't work out with Teela, call me. Just hang up if Nicky answers.
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      • onthewhat
        Restricted User
        • 05-14-08
        • 15411

        #38
        Originally posted by mathdotcom
        Guy didnt mention in his note he owed 50k to creditwagering
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        • daggerkobe
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 03-25-08
          • 10744

          #39
          I saw a similar note from Nina. Too bad it was just another attention whoring.
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          • The Seer
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-29-07
            • 10641

            #40
            Originally posted by Slim
            I feel alot like this kid.
            A gambling forum is no place for someone with depression.
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            • BadNina
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 11-27-07
              • 10491

              #41
              Originally posted by daggerkobe
              I saw a similar note from Nina. Too bad it was just another attention whoring.
              It is almost comical when you attempt to be humorous. But not quite. I have way too much self respect to consider something like that. I realize that respect is not something you yourself is familiar with though. Now run along like a good little boy. I am sure these fine gentlemen are tired of seeing your lameass attempts at being an internet tough guy.
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              • louisvillekid
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 08-14-07
                • 9263

                #42
                Originally posted by VegasDave
                He had lexapro, one of the best anti-depressants available... so he probably did have meds and receive some form of help... it doesn't cure everyone though...
                what might be considered the best might not be the best for everyone else. antidepressants are a hit and miss, there are a shitload of them, and docs just keep throwing ones at you until you say "ok, i think this one makes me feel better".
                I've had docs for the past 15 years throw all kinds at me, and only one has made me feel slightly better, the rest make me all jittery or mess with my central nervous system so much makes me feel like when i tripped on lsd in my youth.
                what's crazy is everytime a new one is on the market the pharmaceutical companies claim it's the best, that's just cause others patents run out and are generics, so they want you to be on the newest ones that cost high dollar.
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                • VegasDave
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-03-07
                  • 8056

                  #43
                  Originally posted by louisvillekid
                  what might be considered the best might not be the best for everyone else. antidepressants are a hit and miss, there are a shitload of them, and docs just keep throwing ones at you until you say "ok, i think this one makes me feel better".
                  I've had docs for the past 15 years throw all kinds at me, and only one has made me feel slightly better, the rest make me all jittery or mess with my central nervous system so much makes me feel like when i tripped on lsd in my youth.
                  what's crazy is everytime a new one is on the market the pharmaceutical companies claim it's the best, that's just cause others patents run out and are generics, so they want you to be on the newest ones that cost high dollar.
                  100% true, was just pointing out to CrazyL that he at least had meds, showing some evidence that he had been to someone and his depression wasn't totally out of left field. Lexipro is one of the highest rated, but you are absolutely right, different people work better on different meds.
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                  • MastaB
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-08-08
                    • 2604

                    #44
                    Originally posted by VegasDave
                    100% true, was just pointing out to CrazyL that he at least had meds, showing some evidence that he had been to someone and his depression wasn't totally out of left field. Lexipro is one of the highest rated, but you are absolutely right, different people work better on different meds.
                    The problem is that, that medicine doesn't "cure" depression. It only covers its up, because the drugs make you feel "good". You really need to address what is causing the depression and try to come to terms with it, and focus on the good things in life.

                    Sad sad story though.
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                    • compaqDikk
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 10-08-05
                      • 5699

                      #45
                      doesn't justin7 own justin.tv
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                      • compaqDikk
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 10-08-05
                        • 5699

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Deuce
                        JJGold is a member there. Was banned though. Compaqdikk still lurks.


                        Anyways, sick fukks those boys were for rooting him on.
                        duece i watched and fainted. probably one of the most traumatic experience i have gone thru
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                        • Casperwaits
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                          • 08-25-06
                          • 5042

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Panic
                          You know, I may sound like an @sshole here, but I cant feel sorry for a guy like this. Reading his note....I mean cmon....how many people in the world, hell how many people on here have felt that they've let their parents down? Been mean to people in their lives? Feel like a failure at times? But guess what, we still get up in the morning, go to work(or school...or whatever) and we try to make the best of our own personal situation. The guy thinks he had it hard...take a look at the kids who are stricken with terminal cancer...what did they do to deserve such a cruel and painful way to go? Look at 3rd world countries, poverty, war, illness, the list goes on and on. We all have problems and the best we can do is pick ourselves up and carry on the best we can. Taking your own life seems like the cowards way out. Look at what he did to his family. They are now gonna be devastated for the rest of their lives.
                          Panic, I respect your point, but keep one thing in mind. The people that carry through the act of suicide are not thinking rationally or at most times balanced chemically like you or me. My stepfather committed suicide when I was 12, and after counseling I had learned that suicidal people are VERY sick. To think people commit suicide just because of one thing or another is just the tip of the iceberg. The "cowardly" way out for these people is all they can fathom. Unfortunately for my stepfather, he had tried unsuccessfully twice before. I have seen how sick a person committing suicide is and I would not wish it on my worst enemy.
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                          • Cloak & Dagger
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-15-07
                            • 4781

                            #48
                            I think this happened a few years ago on paltalk as well....
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                            • Kingctb27
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-16-08
                              • 2258

                              #49
                              Wow.
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                              • HedgeHog
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-11-07
                                • 10128

                                #50
                                A few of you threatened to kill DVB over the Pitt/ Cincy game yesterday. How is this different? He's a suicide/murder waiting to happen.
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                                • compaqDikk
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 10-08-05
                                  • 5699

                                  #51
                                  the sad part is bodybuilding.com will wind up getting sued and close shop within 50 days. i here the settlement is around 4.7 mill to the family

                                  there are 5,635 posters

                                  they will be homeless and allocated to the following sites:

                                  46% to sbr
                                  13% to rx
                                  7% EOG
                                  4.5% fezziks
                                  2% AK's place
                                  1% ogd
                                  20% major wager
                                  8.5% aspd.net
                                  1.5% covers
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                                  • daggerkobe
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-25-08
                                    • 10744

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by BadNina
                                    It is almost comical when you attempt to be humorous. But not quite. I have way too much self respect to consider something like that. I realize that respect is not something you yourself is familiar with though. Now run along like a good little boy. I am sure these fine gentlemen are tired of seeing your lameass attempts at being an internet tough guy.

                                    Get real.

                                    You'd slit your wrists after a bad E-breakup.
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                                    • pavyracer
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 04-12-07
                                      • 82882

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by apk2k6
                                      wow. I can't imagine being that depressed and wanting to take my life.
                                      This is what happens when you use steroids.
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                                      • compaqDikk
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 10-08-05
                                        • 5699

                                        #54
                                        jjs short and brief posting stint at BB:

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                                        • compaqDikk
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 10-08-05
                                          • 5699

                                          #55
                                          "I am in a losing streak of 11 years. I am 37 years old and have weight issues and it turns girls off. I get tired of wacking off in shower and in alleys. The question I have is do you forget how to do it?? Sounds silly but I have heard something to this nature. I use to fuk like a professional years ago but now question myself in and out of the bedroom.

                                          Any advice??

                                          How do I break my streak??

                                          Even fat chicks turn me down
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                                          • Tsoprano
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 04-14-08
                                            • 26374

                                            #56
                                            Wow wtffff
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                                            • Deuce
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 01-12-08
                                              • 29843

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                                              This is what happens when you use steroids.
                                              You have no clue. Guy wasn't even using juice. Did he look like it?
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                                              • pavyracer
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 04-12-07
                                                • 82882

                                                #58
                                                Looking For Strong Women
                                                Hi Boys I am 5-4, 287, red balding hair, 37, brown eyes and shaved all over. I am looking for women that like power lifters like myself. I bench 450, curl 200, squat big numbers also.

                                                If you like real beefy incredible strong guy that is me. Also I am a big time gambler and a real exciting guy.

                                                Thanks
                                                jjgold
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                                                • pavyracer
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 04-12-07
                                                  • 82882

                                                  #59
                                                  I am a big time sportsbettor and known worldwide

                                                  I am 2.5 inches hung if that matters. I hope my size will not be an issue with you because it is how you work it anyway.

                                                  Let me know and if you want we can talk on phone and maybe meet. I am willing to travel. I have a 73 Plymouth

                                                  Thanks for responding
                                                  jjgold
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                                                  • compaqDikk
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 10-08-05
                                                    • 5699

                                                    #60


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                                                    • frostno98
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                                                      • 09-11-07
                                                      • 9769

                                                      #61
                                                      Dude doesn't know what he's going to miss, like being 21 and the hoopla that comes with it.
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                                                      • Iwinyourmoney
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 04-18-07
                                                        • 18368

                                                        #62
                                                        Video link? Chat convo log? I want to see this
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                                                        • Deuce
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 01-12-08
                                                          • 29843

                                                          #63
                                                          MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- With his webcam trained on him, a Florida teenager died in his bed of a drug overdose while others watched over the Internet, officials said Friday.
                                                          Broward County Medical Examiner Joshua Perper said it was clear that the teen committed suicide.





                                                          Some of those watching urged him to take more drugs while others debated whether he had taken enough to kill himself. Hours passed before someone finally notified authorities that he appeared lifeless, officials said.
                                                          The teenager was pronounced dead Wednesday afternoon in Pembroke Pines, Florida, said Wendy Crane, investigator for the Broward County Medical Examiner's Office.
                                                          The cause of death was found to be an overdose of benzodiazepine, an antidepressant, as well as other opiate drugs used to treat depression, Crane said. CNN is not reporting the teenager's name.
                                                          The youth's body was found in his apartment behind a locked door, which police broke down. Police turned off the webcam and computer, Crane said. Watch CNN's John Zarrella detail the webcam suicide »
                                                          She said he did not take anything on camera, according to footage she reviewed, but he blogged between 3 and 4 a.m. Wednesday that he had taken an overdose of drugs. He also posted a suicide note.
                                                          He was seen lying on his bed on the streaming video, posted on the Web site Justin.tv. On the site, a person can stream video from a Web camera while "viewers" chat with each other in a box next to the video, Crane said. The comments and video have since been removed from the Web site.
                                                          Crane read the comments posted during the 10 hours the youth could be seen lying on his bed.
                                                          As the teenager was lying on his bed, she said, people were typing things like, "Oh, that's not enough to kill you." Others, she said, were egging him on, saying things like "Go ahead and do it." Still others thought it wasn't real, Crane said.
                                                          About 11 a.m. Wednesday, Crane said, some viewers began to get concerned, writing things like, "He's not moving" and "He's not breathing."
                                                          One contacted the site's moderator to get the youth's contact information, she said, and the police were notified.
                                                          The teen "has made threats in the past regarding suicide and possibly had previous attempts," she said.
                                                          Justin.tv CEO Michael Seibel said in a statement, "we regret that this has occurred and want to respect the privacy of the broadcaster and his family during this time."
                                                          Pembroke Pines police Sgt. John Gazzano said the case is under investigation.
                                                          Broward County Chief Medical Examiner Joshua Perper said the teen may have stood a chance of surviving had someone notified authorities right away.
                                                          "If somebody had come immediately after he took tablets, then probably not all the tablets would have been absorbed. Then, therefore, they could wash his stomach and get rid of the additional tablets. Certainly, he would have had a much better chance."
                                                          The youth's father said he is "appalled" that people watched and did nothing.
                                                          "I wish they would have given him the assistance that he was crying out for," the father said. "They did not respond to him. They only did long after the fact."
                                                          He said his son, who attended Broward Community College and wanted to be a paramedic, had bipolar disorder and was being treated for depression.
                                                          The father dismissed the suggestion that people thought the video was fake. "It was not fake, was it? You don't assume. You have to find out if it was true or false."
                                                          Perper said the existence of a note left no doubt that the young man committed suicide.
                                                          "He left a note, which is very clear. And our examination did not reveal any evidence of trauma or any evidence of natural disease on internal examination. And we did a screen of the urine, which revealed the presence of medication, mostly antidepressant drugs," Perper said.



                                                          The father said he had no reason to believe his son was having problems.
                                                          "He was a good son," he said. "I'm sorry that no one could help him when I was not around to help him myself."
                                                          Unreal, this made national news. I saw this the day after it happened before the thread was even locked.
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                                                          • RogueJuror
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 07-08-08
                                                            • 10010

                                                            #64
                                                            bodybuilding must be loving this free publicity

                                                            now that guy took one for the team

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                                                            • BadNina
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-27-07
                                                              • 10491

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by daggerkobe
                                                              Get real.

                                                              You'd slit your wrists after a bad E-breakup.
                                                              I'm not 12 like you. You have no concept of reality, do you little internet tough boy?
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                                                              • etothep
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-14-07
                                                                • 1299

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Iwinyourmoney
                                                                Video link? Chat convo log? I want to see this
                                                                I have a hard time believing a copy of the vid isn't still floating out there somewhere. Someone find it & deliver
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                                                                • compaqDikk
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                                                                  • 10-08-05
                                                                  • 5699

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Kin outraged, distraught over teen's cyber suicide

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                                                                  By RASHA MADKOUR, Associated Press Writer Rasha Madkour, Associated Press Writer – Sat Nov 22, 6:58 am ET

                                                                  MIAMI – The family of a college student who killed himself live on the Internet say they're horrified his life ended before a virtual audience, and infuriated that viewers of the live webcam or operators of the Web site that hosted it didn't act sooner to save him.

                                                                  Only after police arrived to find Abraham Biggs dead in his father's bed did the Web feed stop Wednesday — 12 hours after the 19-year-old Broward College student first declared on a Web site that he hated himself and planned to die.

                                                                  "It didn't have to be," said the victim's sister, Rosalind Bigg. "They got hits, they got viewers, nothing happened for hours."

                                                                  Biggs announced his plans to kill himself over a Web site for bodybuilders, authorities said. He posted a link from there to Justin.tv, a site that allows users to broadcast live videos from their webcams.

                                                                  A computer user who claimed to have watched said that after swallowing some pills, Biggs went to sleep and appeared to be breathing for a few hours while others cracked jokes.

                                                                  Some members of his virtual audience encouraged him to do it, others tried to talk him out of it, and some discussed whether he was taking a dose big enough to kill himself, said Wendy Crane, an investigator with the Broward County medical examiner's office.

                                                                  Some users told investigators they did not take him seriously because he had threatened suicide on the site before.

                                                                  Eventually, someone notified the moderator of the bodybuilding site, who traced Biggs' location and called police, Crane said. The drama unfolded live on Justin.tv, which allows viewers to post comments alongside the video images.

                                                                  As police entered the room, the audience's reaction was filled with Internet shorthand: "OMFG," one wrote, meaning "Oh, my God." Others, either not knowing what they were seeing, or not caring, wrote "lol," which means "laughing out loud," and "hahahah."

                                                                  His father, Abraham Biggs Sr., told The Miami Herald he didn't want to watch the video.

                                                                  "We were very good friends," he said. "It's wrong that it was allowed to happen."

                                                                  An autopsy concluded Biggs died from a combination of opiates and benzodiazepine, which his family said was prescribed for his bipolar disorder.

                                                                  "Abe, i still wish this was all a joke," a friend wrote on the teenager's MySpace page, which he described himself as a goodhearted guy who would always be available for his pals, no matter what time of day.

                                                                  In a statement, Justin.tv CEO Michael Seibel said: "We regret that this has occurred and want to respect the privacy of the broadcaster and his family during this time."

                                                                  It is unclear how many people watched it happen. The Web site would not say how many people were watching the broadcast. The site as a whole had 672,000 unique visitors in October, according to Nielsen.

                                                                  Biggs was not the first person to commit suicide with a webcam rolling. But the drawn-out drama — and the reaction of those watching — was seen as an extreme example of young people's penchant for sharing intimate details about themselves over the Internet.

                                                                  Montana Miller, an assistant professor of popular culture at Bowling Green State University in Ohio, said Biggs' very public suicide was not shocking, given the way teenagers chronicle every facet of their lives on sites like Facebook and MySpace.

                                                                  "If it's not recorded or documented then it doesn't even seem worthwhile," she said. "For today's generation it might seem, `What's the point of doing it if everyone isn't going to see it?'"

                                                                  She likened Biggs' death to other public ways of committing suicide, like jumping off a bridge.

                                                                  Crane said she knows of a case in which a Florida man shot himself in the head in front of an online audience, though she didn't know how much viewers saw. In Britain last year, a man hanged himself while chatting online.

                                                                  Miami lawyer William Hill said there is probably nothing that could be done legally to those who watched and did not act. As for whether the Web site could be held liable, Hill said there doesn't seem to be much of a case for negligence.

                                                                  "There could conceivably be some liability if they knew this was happening and they had some ability to intervene and didn't take action," said Hill, who does business litigation and has represented a number of Internet-based clients. But "I think it would be a stretch."

                                                                  Condolences poured into Biggs' MySpace page, where the mostly unsmiling teen is seen posing in a series of pictures with various young women. On the bodybuilding Web site, Biggs used the screen name CandyJunkie. His Justin.tv alias was "feels_like_ecstacy."

                                                                  Bigg described her brother as an outgoing person who struck up conversations with Starbucks baristas and enjoyed taking his young nieces to Chuck E. Cheese. He was health-conscious and exercised but was not a bodybuilder, she said.

                                                                  "This is very, very sudden and unexpected for us," the sister said. "It boggles the mind. We don't understand."
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