Wisconsin -3 might be the college play of the year

[t-wizzle]

7-3 unranked Wisconsin is a 3 point favorite over 10-0 #6 in the AP Poll Ohio State.

I have no play as of yet because I want to know a little more about this backup quarterback but doesn't it say a lot that the books would give the Badgers the nod here even with the limited qb play?

I just don't see this Ohio State team running the table. The only game left is at home in the big rivalry with Michigan. They've narrowly escaped losses to some pretty crappy teams but I think their luck runs out this weekend.


I plan to make a big play on Wisky here. Would love to get some thoughts from sbr though first. Who can tell me anything about this QB Phillips?

[Retrospect]

I like Ohio here..simply because they are a better team than last year. I can't say the same for Wisky since they no longer have Wilson but
Blowing up Indiana does not make you an instant superman

[Smoke]

Ohio State ML

[rm18]

Weird line, but be careful Ohio St. is a well coached team off a bye and Wisky might be looking ahead to Nebraska in the title game

[MeatWad]

Excellent pick! I like this one alot as well. First line I saw was 2.5. That monsterous Wisconsin O line finally putting it all together. Camp Randall will be rocking.

[MeatWad]

Among some factors I thought pertinent was rushing D ,both are solid, but Wisc surprisingly better yds/carrry and yds/game. I know IU was a horrible mismatch undersized D line vs Wisc 330lb O lineman, but I see them as a team improving, getting it together as the season progresses.

[Sunde91]

Philips attempting 7 passes and looking horrible doing it should say enough about the QB. With a solid OSU run D, Wisconsin could be in a nightmare on O.

Wisconsin still sucks. See .5 ypc vs MSU. OSU should be favored

Wisconsin has the div locked but breaking the TD record on Senior Day will be a big occasion to get up added with the hype of undefeated OSU

[MeatWad]

Philips attempting 7 passes and looking horrible doing it should say enough about the QB. With a solid OSU run D, Wisconsin could be in a nightmare on O.

Wisconsin still sucks. See .5 ypc vs MSU. OSU should be favored

Wisconsin has the div locked but breaking the TD record on Senior Day will be a big occasion to get up added with the hype of undefeated OSU

That was an atrocious output offensively, but I think MSU is the most talented D in the conference. Wisc D manhandled Bell and MSU running game as well 61 yds 28 carries. OSU a little thin at linebacker should hurt their run D. Wisc had ran the table at home for several years (like 20-22 str8 wins before MSU game) maybe they lose back to back home games, but their edge there is more significant than most home teams.

I like the improving form of Wisc, their resilence as the season has progressed. They also have O Brien at QB who has more snaps and decent stats on the year, but choose Philips to start instead.

[milwaukee mike]

The college play of the year?
Taking wisconsin -6.5 last week with huge advantages on the line was much better than this one, which could go either way.

Lol at people still saying wisconsin sucks. None of their losses were embarrasing.

[Sunde91]

1 win vs a winning team, Utah State at home by 2 points where a last second 37 yard game winner was whiffed
Lost to all 3 teams worth a shit on a weak schedule
Struggle vs Utah State, Northern Iowa, and Utep at home. Should have lost 1-2 of those
Tied 7-7 at home at half vs an Illinois team destroyed by everyone
.5 ypc at home vs the only good defense they've played

They don't suck like Umass congrats. Read between the lines they suck as in they have been underexposed relative to their actual ability, still with inflated perception.

[MeatWad]

Definitely struggled the first half of the season, that is why we give under a FG here. Their recent form has been much improved, one of the better D's in the country with an offense that has put up big numbers the second half of the season.

I like the matchup of a 330lb O line that has shown signs of life, looking like last years squad lately vs a team with linebacker issues/injuries, not to mention a 21-1 record in their last 22 in Madison.

[BigDofBA]

Ohio State is very overrated and Wisconsin is tough to beat at home.

Wisconsin's three losses have all been very tight games, two of which were against top 15 teams.

Ohio State has beaten Indiana by 3, Purdue in overtime in game they should have lost at home, Michigan State by 1, and Cal by 7. Basically what I'm trying to say is that Ohio State is damn lucky to be undefeated and they have had close calls against a bunch of unranked teams.

It won't surprise me at all if Wisconsin wins here.

[MeatWad]

Ohio State is very overrated and Wisconsin is tough to beat at home.

Wisconsin's three losses have all been very tight games, two of which were against top 15 teams.

Ohio State has beaten Indiana by 3, Purdue in overtime in game they should have lost at home, Michigan State by 1, and Cal by 7. Basically what I'm trying to say is that Ohio State is damn lucky to be undefeated and they have had close calls against a bunch of unranked teams.

It won't surprise me at all if Wisconsin wins here.

Not to mention OSU has played three road games all year 2 of which were decided by 3 or less. Not really impressed when comparing common opponents stats either, especially the IU and Purdue games.

[t-wizzle]

1 win vs a winning team, Utah State at home by 2 points where a last second 37 yard game winner was whiffed
Lost to all 3 teams worth a shit on a weak schedule
Struggle vs Utah State, Northern Iowa, and Utep at home. Should have lost 1-2 of those
Tied 7-7 at home at half vs an Illinois team destroyed by everyone
.5 ypc at home vs the only good defense they've played

They don't suck like Umass congrats. Read between the lines they suck as in they have been underexposed relative to their actual ability, still with inflated perception.

It's very easy to look at Wisky over the course of the year and say they are a shit team but I prefer to try to look at each situation independently. The loss to MSU looks bad because the Spartans have not met expectations but Michigan State could easily have 7 or 8 wins this year. 4 losses by a combined 10 points so they've been in a ton of close games.

Minus the tough loss to MSU, Wisconsin seems to have hit their stride.

Shouldn't this line be Wisconsin -1 at most (if not, OSU a fave)???

[Sunde91]

OSU is lucky too but wins @MSU, @PSU, Nebraska. Wisconsin's best win is..uhh, errm

Could see an emotional Wisconsin Senior Day with a great atmosphere. Ball breaks the record, tears, in the crowd after the game fingers in the air, big win like when Ron Dayne broke all-time yardage vs Iowa in his last home game

Could see OSU ready off the bye. Shut down the Wisc run. Philips forced to throw, 2-3 picks. Miller busting out everything on the edge.

[M.W.]

1 win vs a winning team, Utah State at home by 2 points where a last second 37 yard game winner was whiffed

Are you sure Utah State isn't as good as Ohio State? I'm not.

[MeatWad]

The college play of the year?
Taking wisconsin -6.5 last week with huge advantages on the line was much better than this one, which could go either way.

Lol at people still saying wisconsin sucks. None of their losses were embarrasing.

Last weeks game was actually NorthCoast sports game of the year. That matchup of Wisc huge O line vs the finese D of IU made that one a much juicer matchup.

[neverstoppers23]

Wisconsin is a very tough place to play at, and wisky has had luck knocking off osu when they are undeafted. in the past couple weeks, Wisconsins offense seems to be putting it together. Their o-line finally looks good, their running game was just dominating last week. Hell even our third option melvin gordon got 96 yards

[TR35]

It isn't the play of the year. How can a team with 3 losses be the play against an undefeated team? A no play for me but I would be careful of Urban Meyer and a bye week. He will build this game up as their bowl game.

[milwaukee mike]

1 win vs a winning team, Utah State at home by 2 points where a last second 37 yard game winner was whiffed
Lost to all 3 teams worth a shit on a weak schedule
Struggle vs Utah State, Northern Iowa, and Utep at home. Should have lost 1-2 of those
Tied 7-7 at home at half vs an Illinois team destroyed by everyone
.5 ypc at home vs the only good defense they've played

They don't suck like Umass congrats. Read between the lines they suck as in they have been underexposed relative to their actual ability, still with inflated perception.

Don't say "congrats" lol.
Wisconsin is my least favorite team in all sports, i'm a marquette fan/booster.

I think it's quite the opposite this year, wisconsin has been undervalued after the first month, covering 5 of their last 6. Only game they didn't cover was last minute td by michigan st.

[ProfaneReality]

Weird line, but be careful Ohio St. is a well coached team off a bye and Wisky might be looking ahead to Nebraska in the title game

Look ahead angle doesn't apply here. Wisky/Ohio St rivalry has been budding the last few years, add in that Meyer went after some Wisconsin verbal committs that had Bielema fuming in the offseason.

[csknight3]

I refuse to bet on Wisconsin this year. Ohio State or No Play.

[billysink]

If you are still looking for your 3 points here, look no further than the "intelligence" of both of these teams. Ohio St. has proven themselves capable of shooting themselves in the foot with bad penalties/penalty yardage all year. They consistently see drives extended against them or negative yardage due to penalties when they are on offense. They rank in the top 10 nationally in opponent first downs by penalty per game and in the bottom 20 in penalty yards amassed per game. Wisconsin on the other hand plays a very clean game mirroring the opposite of Ohio St. in both statistical departments.

We can go back and forth all day about who is the better team and who has beaten who where. The real key to this game and the real difference between the two is smarts and discipline where the true and very discernible advantage lies with Wisconsin. The home venue will only serve to exacerbate this difference with respect to the score.

It is beyond my reasonable expectation that Ohio State goes to Wisconsin on Senior day and plays a real clean game. For that reason I sided with Wisconsin at open @ -2.5 (-110) late Sunday night. I expect to beat the closing number here.

[esulima]

7-3 unranked Wisconsin is a 3 point favorite over 10-0 #6 in the AP Poll Ohio State.

I have no play as of yet because I want to know a little more about this backup quarterback but doesn't it say a lot that the books would give the Badgers the nod here even with the limited qb play?

I just don't see this Ohio State team running the table. The only game left is at home in the big rivalry with Michigan. They've narrowly escaped losses to some pretty crappy teams but I think their luck runs out this weekend.


I plan to make a big play on Wisky here. Would love to get some thoughts from sbr though first. Who can tell me anything about this QB Phillips?

penn st was favored 2 over ohio st and look what happened there

[t-wizzle]

penn st was favored 2 over ohio st and look what happened there

Braxton Miller's status was unknown and Ohio State closed -1.5

[CDMKMP]

That game was a joke with officiating anyway. Ohio St is not that good, but it will come down to how effective Wisco is at stopping the zone read.

[BettingWizard]

OSU isn't going undefeated, so you would have to say this would be the spot for it to happen

[No coincidences]

Two overrated teams from a dogshit conference.

Meyer can coach circles around Bielema, who might be the worst in-game coach I've ever seen.

[t-wizzle]

Two overrated teams from a dogshit conference.

Meyer can coach circles around Bielema, who might be the worst in-game coach I've ever seen.

Done a great job with the program during his tenure.

Anyway, I think I'll load up on Wisconsin if this line moves to -2.5. It certainly appears to be moving that way.

[Wilfred]

All I know is Wisconsin was struggling with Chuckie Keeton running the ball on them earlier in the year. Good luck with Braxton. Not to mention my Bucks are designed on defense to stop the power running game with one of the best DL in the country. Oh well I'm a homer good luck Badgers.

[BlitzTheBooks]

Actually on OSU myself. Sure, their run game might be slowed down a bit by the Badgers D but they have a MUCH better option at airing it out than WIS does. Not to mention, these last two games are basically the Buckeyes postseason. They'll be focused like no other. This will come down to the wire and I'll gladly take OSU at +3.5/+4.0. Only scary part - public is on them as well (fairly heavy) yet the line keeps moving higher.

[DrStale]

Done a great job with the program during his tenure.

Anyway, I think I'll load up on Wisconsin if this line moves to -2.5. It certainly appears to be moving that way.

No he hasn't. No coin is right, Bielema is horrible. The team has excelled in spite of him for a couple years during his tenure but for the most part he turned a great program into an average one. I hope the Badgers win but for if you ask me laying points with no quarterback against Urban Meyer off a bye is nuts. Ball has looked incredibly mediocre against any halfway decent defense the Badgers have seen this year.

[Sunde91]

I'd give Bielema an A- on results and an A if he won one of the Rose Bowls. He is horrible and lost game, but he made the fake punt call @Iowa in 2010 that absolutely won the Big Ten, which set the foundation to get a guy like Wilson to come and it win again. Always finishes above .500 (look at Ferentz, Dantonio). 4 double digit win seasons out of 6

Barry built it, but there were a few years with him in the 2000s where Wisconsin was worse than it's ever been under Bielema.

Under 53 looks nice

[suicidekings]

7-3 unranked Wisconsin is a 3 point favorite over 10-0 #6 in the AP Poll Ohio State.

I have no play as of yet because I want to know a little more about this backup quarterback but doesn't it say a lot that the books would give the Badgers the nod here even with the limited qb play?

I just don't see this Ohio State team running the table. The only game left is at home in the big rivalry with Michigan. They've narrowly escaped losses to some pretty crappy teams but I think their luck runs out this weekend.

I plan to make a big play on Wisky here. Would love to get some thoughts from sbr though first. Who can tell me anything about this QB Phillips?

You make it sound like sportsbooks are making lines based on a team's W-L record. The line opened at -1 at the Wynn, and -1.5 offshore. Statistically, these teams aren't that far apart, with OSU having a bit of an edge on offense. The Badgers didn't even merit a -3 opener at home (Senior Day) in the eyes of the linemakers, which would have said the teams are basically even... I'm not sure how you think this line is screaming Wisconsin.

Wisconsin isn't even really playing for all that much anymore as PSU and OSU are both ineligible for the post-season. The Badgers are going to the Big Ten Title game regardless of what happens in their last two games, and while they're bowl eligible, already having three losses severely reduces their options in which bowl game they're likely to play in. The outcome of their season really doesn't depend on these next two games all that much...

On the other side of the field, the chance at an unbeaten season is all Ohio State has left to hope for. They will bring everything they have for this game. I'm on the Buckeyes +3 here.

[BlitzTheBooks]

You make it sound like sportsbooks are making lines based on a team's W-L record. The line opened at -1 at the Wynn, and -1.5 offshore. Statistically, these teams aren't that far apart, with OSU having a bit of an edge on offense. The Badgers didn't even merit a -3 opener at home (Senior Day) in the eyes of the linemakers, which would have said the teams are basically even... I'm not sure how you think this line is screaming Wisconsin.

Wisconsin isn't even really playing for all that much anymore as PSU and OSU are both ineligible for the post-season. The Badgers are going to the Big Ten Title game regardless of what happens in their last two games, and while they're bowl eligible, already having three losses severely reduces their options in which bowl game they're likely to play in. The outcome of their season really doesn't depend on these next two games all that much...

On the other side of the field, the chance at an unbeaten season is all Ohio State has left to hope for. They will bring everything they have for this game. I'm on the Buckeyes +3 here.

Impeccable logic.