Do "Coolers" Exist In Casinos??...Please...No Rookie Votes Please...Poll Inside

[betplom]

ARE ARE TELLING ME GAMBLING IS A SCIENCE NOW???


BUWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


OHHHHHH MANNNNNNN

YOU MUST BE RICH OFF GAMBLING EH??

You're not doing yourself any favours by posting like this.

For Casinos gambling absolutely is science, math specifically.
If you don't believe this to be true I can't offer anything else to help you learn the truth.

I'm definitely not rich from gambling, but I learned a long time ago that casinos are not built to give money away. Once you realize this you will find it easy to stay away from them.

[Cloak & Dagger]

I don't come from a wealthy family and I don't have to grease here. That's for tourists like you. I have earned everything on my own with hard work and extreme dedication. 80 hours/week is not an exaggeration. I know what I'm talking about and I'll leave it at that.

say your prayers before that river card flips

God will give you what you need

[Cloak & Dagger]

You're not doing yourself any favours by posting like this.


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I'm definitely not rich from gambling, but I learned a long time ago that casinos are not built to give money away.

okay gambling is a science

no luck involved

you should be a college professor

[durito]

good laugh in here

[Richkas]

say your prayers before that river card flips

God will give you what you need

poker is all luck when all the players are at the same skill level.

[betplom]

good laugh in here

You obviously are laughing about my silly posts mentioning that casinos rely on math and probability with the table games they offer. Oh yeah, my belief that casinos payout less than they take in is obviously a very ignorant statement.

I know, I'm a tard.

Do you remember the MIT students that setup the blackjack syndicate years ago?
Were they just lucky? I think math probably helped their cause.

[MonkeyF0cker]

poker is all luck when all the players are at the same skill level.

Not true. But that's a completely different matter and one that I don't have time to delve into at the moment.

[Cloak & Dagger]

poker is all luck when all the players are at the same skill level.

good luck and bad luck has something to do with gambling?

anyone with a "GED" knows that....LMFAO



not according to these "professionals"

its a science

[durito]

Cloak:

If I flip a fair coin. What are the chances of it landing on heads?

[betplom]

good luck and bad luck has something to do with gambling?

anyone with a "GED" knows that....LMFAO



not according to these "professionals"

its a science

Cloak reminds me of the ignorant fools way back when that laughed when scientists announced the world wasn't really flat as was believed.

Cloak, have some self respect, you are making such a fool of yourself I'm starting to feel sorry for you, pathetic lost soul that you are.

[betplom]

Cloak:

If I flip a fair coin. What are the chances of it landing on heads?

Depends on how "lucky" the person flipping the coin is.

Durito, my experience at SBR has been that some people are unable to change their beliefs regardless of the evidence provided.
Give it a shot, then give up on him, save yourself the headache.

[Immortality]

Man this forum was so much better when cloak & dagger was banned.

[Cloak & Dagger]

Cloak:

If I flip a fair coin. What are the chances of it landing on heads?

are you only flipping it once?

50/50?

I understand the whole science theory

after a certain amt of time the number will be in your favor blah blah blah

these guys will be 90 years old waiting for their "time to come"

anyone who gambles and honestly believes in their head that its a science and luck IS NOT involved should be labotomized

you want to talk about "illusions?"

these guys been watching espn with dreams and illusions

thinking that can be them

what they dont understand is....THOSE PEOPLE ARE LUCKY

there is no hope....those type will spend THEIR ENTIRE LIFE chasing the number

[tacomax]

Cloak:

If I flip a fair coin. What are the chances of it landing on heads?

Who is flipping the coin? The regular flipper or a cooler? Is the coin on a hot or cold streak? I can't answer without all the necessary information.

[Cloak & Dagger]

Man this forum was so much better when cloak & dagger was banned.

and what have you contributed to the forum today?

not a damn thing...return to trolling

[Cloak & Dagger]

I know, I'm a tard.

Do you remember the MIT students that setup the blackjack syndicate years ago?
Were they just lucky? I think math probably helped their cause.

Touche!

No luck involved never...all science...thanks for the lesson

[englishmike]

Who is flipping the coin? The regular flipper or a cooler? Is the coin on a hot or cold streak? I can't answer without all the necessary information.

[durito]

are you only flipping it once?

50/50?

I understand the whole science theory

after a certain amt of time the number will be in your favor blah blah blah

OK.

Let's say I flip a FAIR coin 8 times and it comes up head 8 times in a row. What are the odds of it coming up heads on the next flip?

[durito]

Another question:

How does the "cooler" avoid luck?

[Patrick McIrish]

There is short-term luck involved Cloak, I give you that. Over the long haul though the math always runs true. That's why if you participate in -EV events you will go broke eventually. How much you are betting, how long you live, how long you play and so on are factors but bottom line is you can't win, if you play long enough you will go broke. No two ways about it. That's why I don't like to "gamble" on things I don't have an edge in. Of course the flip side of that is when you are getting the best of it, a casino for example, they can't lose in the long run, there is no luck to it, just math.

[Cloak & Dagger]

OK.

Let's say I flip a FAIR coin 8 times and it comes up head 8 times in a row. What are the odds of it coming up heads on the next flip?

how does the science theory go?

what happened in the past has no relevance on the future pertaining to gambling

like a roulette wheel coming up black 10 times in a row so the odds should be in favor of it coming up red the next spin??

but the "professional gambling scientists" will tell you it has the same amount of chance to come up black as it does red

anyone who believes gambling=science is a moron...that is my opinion...ill stick with that opinion and not call it fact...because...well...we are talking about gambling here right?

gambling...think about it...what is gambling??

betting on chance right?

I cant believe espn has brainwashed so many people over the years with their televised WSOP tourneys

to each their own...I would say "good luck"...but as we have learned here today at SBR gambling has nothing to do with luck

its all numbers...math...and science

[Cloak & Dagger]

Another question:

How does the "cooler" avoid luck?

well in the movie "the cooler" Macy got laid

then he wasent a cooler anymore...every table he walked by turned lucky

maybe the cooler avoids luck by avoiding anything, everything and everyone that could be lucky?

but then again...that was a movie

coolers are haters...once a hater...always a hater

[Cloak & Dagger]

There is short-term luck involved Cloak, I give you that. Over the long haul though the math always runs true. That's why if you participate in -EV events you will go broke eventually. How much you are betting, how long you live, how long you play and so on are factors but bottom line is you can't win, if you play long enough you will go broke. No two ways about it. That's why I don't like to "gamble" on things I don't have an edge in. Of course the flip side of that is when you are getting the best of it, a casino for example, they can't lose in the long run, there is no luck to it, just math.

hey...increasing your edge is being smart...I never said anything about that

but to say there is no luck involved with gambling??

that statement should never be made in any situation

unless you are a rookie in this game

[Patrick McIrish]

how does the science theory go?

what happened in the past has no relevance on the future pertaining to gambling

like a roulette wheel coming up black 10 times in a row so the odds should be in favor of it coming up red the next spin??

but the "professional gambling scientists" will tell you it has the same amount of chance to come up black as it does red

Each spin is an independant event Cloak. Absolutely the 11th spin will be the same as the first, both red and black have identical chances of coming up. I'm not trying to be an ass, I have no horse in this race, just telling you so you'll understand. Now if someone wanted to bet you ahead of time that the red will come up 11 spins in a row that is a horse of another color. But after 10 spins the odds are the same for red and black regardless of what has come before. Does that make sense? Assuming the wheel is clean the past has no bearing on the future.

This reminds me of a bet once on MajorWager, Nicky took some guys money on this exact concept. You around Nicky? You remember that? The guy just could not understand how the odds on the 3rd roll were the same as the first spin. I think the bet was if 35 came up twice in a row, what was the odds of 35 coming up a 3rd time. If the bet was 35 coming up 3 times in a row before the first spin, the other guy would have been right, the odds were very big against it. But on the 3rd spin the 35 is no less or more likely to show up than it was on the 1st spin, or any other spin for that matter. Anyway I don't want to get in a pissing match, I just think some of even the more basic stuff might be hard to grasp if all this is brand new to you. No shame in learning something on these forums.


PS - you are right as far as I'm concerned about short term luck. We used to take a poker cruise that lasted 4 hours and it sucked to see the worst player at the table win all the money. If he was stranded on a desert island he would lose every cent he had, but in a 4 hour cruise you are right, there is a lot of luck involved.

[patsfan2727]

haha, not saying coolers do or do not exist, but posting pictures and clips from HOLLYWOOD MOVIES is not the strongest way to prove your point.

[Cloak & Dagger]

Each spin is an independant event Cloak. Absolutely the 11th spin will be the same as the first, both red and black have identical chances of coming up. I'm not trying to be an ass, I have no horse in this race, just telling you so you'll understand. Now if someone wanted to bet you ahead of time that the red will come up 11 spins in a row that is a horse of another color. But after 10 spins the odds are the same for red and black regardless of what has come before. Does that make sense?

This reminds me of a bet once on MajorWager, Nicky took some guys money on this exact concept. The guy just could not understand how the odds on the 3rd roll were the same as the first spin. I think the bet was if 35 came up twice in a row, what was the odds of 35 coming up a 3rd time. Anyway I don't want to get in a pissing match, I just think some of even the more basic stuff might be hard to grasp if all this is brand new to you.


PS - you are right as far as I'm concerned, there is luck in gambling. We used to take a poker cruise that lasted 4 hours and it sucked to see the worst player at the table win all the money. If he was stranded on a desert island he would lose every cent he had, but in a 4 hour cruise you are right, there is a lot of luck involved.

Ill go to my grave with the belief that gambling is all about luck

as far as an edge...thats a different story

yes I understand what you are telling me...Ive read it alot of places numerous times

I see what your saying short-term=luck

long term=science and math

but either way you cut it...you can have numbers, math, and science all on your side...giving you that little bit of an edge over a long period of time

but if you dont have luck...you lose...bottom line...anyone who thinks different is brainwashed

show me one lifetime long gambler that will say he won strictly on science and math...and luck was not a factor

and I will eat my words

[Cloak & Dagger]

haha, not saying coolers do or do not exist, but posting pictures and clips from HOLLYWOOD MOVIES is not the strongest way to prove your point.

but those clips remind me of real life situations in casinos that Ive seen with my own eyes....

[Richkas]

I love Cloak and Dagger

Finally somebody with some balls to point out that 80% of the people on here dont have a clue.

Probably closer to 90%

[durito]

I love Cloak and Dagger

Finally somebody with some balls to point out that 80% of the people on here dont have a clue.

Probably closer to 90%

this had been pointed out plenty.

guess which group you are in.

[Cloak & Dagger]

I love Cloak and Dagger

Finally somebody with some balls to point out that 80% of the people on here dont have a clue.

Probably closer to 90%

the "scientists" are getting angry with me

[mmike032]

Ill go to my grave with the belief that gambling is all about luck

as far as an edge...thats a different story

yes I understand what you are telling me...Ive read it alot of places numerous times

I see what your saying short-term=luck

long term=science and math

but either way you cut it...you can have numbers, math, and science all on your side...giving you that little bit of an edge over a long period of time

but if you dont have luck...you lose...bottom line...anyone who thinks different is brainwashed

show me one lifetime long gambler that will say he won strictly on science and math...and luck was not a factor
and I will eat my words

the MIT nerds until they were banned, theres been others but they have also been banned.
why were they banned? b/c they were winning

[Cloak & Dagger]

the MIT nerds until they were banned, theres been others but they have also been banned.
why were they banned? b/c they were winning

so they werent lucky at any point?

[mtneer1212]

I can definitely attest to coolers at the racetrack. Nothing like the field turning from home, and your horse takes the lead as they enter the stretch, and some bozo with a $2 show bet yells, "C'mon Number 4", which of course happens to be your horse. Suddenly the feet get heavy and the legs get weary and he is passed by two horses at the wire. You look at the guy and want to strangle him, and then this clown says "I'm glad I bet him to show. Whew."

ARRRRGGGGHHHH

[mmike032]

so they werent lucky at any point?

no they had a system that worked to beat BJ by counting cards I believe. They recruited other nerds and studied their system for months until they had it down to second nature.

IMHO luck is envovled with your for fun gamblers( the ones that seldom win and in the long run always lose) they're not trying to count cards to gain an edge.

[Richkas]

this had been pointed out plenty.

guess which group you are in.

I'm in the group that everybody wants off the streets.