If you had to guess the Super Bowl participants today, who would they be?

suicidekings · 12-03-12, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by Dexter

i can not for the life of me understand how both of you can see colin k leading sf to the superbowl....the superbowl is made up of stud QB's.....year after year. schaub is not a stud only because they run so much. put him in a pass heavy offense and he has the 4k seasons...

I've had confidence in Kaepernick since he was playing in Nevada. He's a big play QB that can throw downfield and convert on busted plays with his legs. Yet unproven at the pro-level with only 3 starts, but don't underestimate him.

In particular, his experience working under Chris Ault gives him a unique advantage as probably being the most experienced Pistol QB in the NFL. On a pass-heavy team, this isn't necessarily a huge advantage, but on a team that's built around dominating at the LOS and a power running game, the Niners have a bigger playbook on a wide variety of down & distance that force the opposing defense to account for CK on the ground. That doesn't make him a gimmick QB though, as he still has a strong, accurate arm and a very good set of receivers to work with. It just adds another dimension to defend.

I don't agree that it takes a guy named Brady/Manning/Rothlisberger/Rodgers to win the Superbowl.

suicidekings · 12-03-12, 10:04 PM

Either way though, my money is on the Steelers.

No coincidences · 12-03-12, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by Dexter

i can not for the life of me understand how both of you can see colin k leading sf to the superbowl....the superbowl is made up of stud QB's.....year after year. schaub is not a stud only because they run so much. put him in a pass heavy offense and he has the 4k seasons...

Like I said, I'm not as crazy about the Niners now as I would be with Smith at the helm, strange as that sounds.

Kaepernick has a much higher ceiling and he's the answer long-term, but in his rookie season? Super Bowl? Having my doubts....

No coincidences · 12-03-12, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by suicidekings

Either way though, my money is on the Steelers.

Agree 110% there.

Dexter · 12-03-12, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by suicidekings

I've had confidence in Kaepernick since he was playing in Nevada. He's a big play QB that can throw downfield and convert on busted plays with his legs. Yet unproven at the pro-level with only 3 starts, but don't underestimate him.

In particular, his experience working under Chris Ault gives him a unique advantage as probably being the most experienced Pistol QB in the NFL. On a pass-heavy team, this isn't necessarily a huge advantage, but on a team that's built around dominating at the LOS and a power running game, the Niners have a bigger playbook on a wide variety of down & distance that force the opposing defense to account for CK on the ground. That doesn't make him a gimmick QB though, as he still has a strong, accurate arm and a very good set of receivers to work with. It just adds another dimension to defend.

I don't agree that it takes a guy named Brady/Manning/Rothlisberger/Rodgers to win the Superbowl.

he is a rookie and im sorry, but is just another randall cunningham (i feel MT coming after me...ha). the 49ers screwed themselves of any chance at a superbowl by doing this end of the season.

you may not agree that it takes guys like that, but the fact is those are the guys that end up winning it much more often then not. The Trent Dilfers of SBowl history are rare, and even he wasnt a rookie....

suicidekings · 12-03-12, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by Dexter

he is a rookie and im sorry, but is just another randall cunningham (i feel MT coming after me...ha). the 49ers screwed themselves of any chance at a superbowl by doing this end of the season.

you may not agree that it takes guys like that, but the fact is those are the guys that end up winning it much more often then not. The Trent Dilfers of SBowl history are rare, and even he wasnt a rookie....

We'll see. Like I say, Pittsburgh is who I like to win it all and can make a much more convincing case for them.

2daBank · 12-03-12, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by Dexter

he is a rookie and im sorry, but is just another randall cunningham (i feel MT coming after me...ha). the 49ers screwed themselves of any chance at a superbowl by doing this end of the season.

you may not agree that it takes guys like that, but the fact is those are the guys that end up winning it much more often then not. The Trent Dilfers of SBowl history are rare, and even he wasnt a rookie....

wasnt big ben a rookie when they won his 1st one?

8ArIvd5 · 12-03-12, 10:34 PM

Denver/San Francisco

For the life of me I can't understand why everyone is calling Kaepernick a rookie.

Dexter · 12-03-12, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

wasnt big ben a rookie when they won his 1st one?

a rarity....plus when was the last time a running qb won a superbowl. i cant recall one...

Dexter · 12-03-12, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by 8ArIvd5

Denver/San Francisco

For the life of me I can't understand why everyone is calling Kaepernick a rookie.

oh wow....didnt realize he was around last year. i still would be beyond shocked, although that year of watching/learning does help.

2daBank · 12-03-12, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by Dexter

a rarity....plus when was the last time a running qb won a superbowl. i cant recall one...

we entering a brave new world (possibly),,,sf def has a similar type team to the one pit won with ben as a rookie tho... god that sb was str8 trash...

2daBank · 12-03-12, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by 8ArIvd5

Denver/San Francisco

For the life of me I can't understand why everyone is calling Kaepernick a rookie.

i thought this was his second yr...wasnt 100% tho,,damn drugs..

JohnnyBrooklyn · 12-03-12, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by Dexter

a rarity....plus when was the last time a running qb won a superbowl. i cant recall one...

49er's /Steve Young Mid 90's

My pick is Indy Colt's Vs. Seattle Seachicken's

MidgetTossers · 12-03-12, 10:55 PM

have you guys really watched Kap play so far? he is not a run first qb..he has made some very nice throws and has quite possibly the strongest arm in the nfl..no joke..he threw a perfect and i mean perfect throw to walker in the endzone that should have sealed the deal yesterday but walker somehow missed it..it was somewhat of a strange move by harbaugh at this point of the season to make this change but i am 100% behind it..you already know what u have in alex so test this kid and see what u got..if for some reason it doesnt work out(which i dont see at all) then u go back to alex..for people who think that alex would be butt hurt by this they are wrong..this dude is resilient and has been through a bunch of shit his whole career..hes a pro and will always be a pro..one thing i have learned is to trust in harbaugh..he knows what he is doing

2daBank · 12-03-12, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by MidgetTossers

have you guys really watched Kap play so far? he is not a run first qb..he has made some very nice throws and has quite possibly the strongest arm in the nfl..no joke..he threw a perfect and i mean perfect throw to walker in the endzone that should have sealed the deal yesterday but walker somehow missed it..it was somewhat of a strange move by harbaugh at this point of the season to make this change but i am 100% behind it..you already know what u have in alex so test this kid and see what u got..if for some reason it doesnt work out(which i dont see at all) then u go back to alex..for people who think that alex would be butt hurt by this they are wrong..this dude is resilient and has been through a bunch of shit his whole career..hes a pro and will always be a pro..one thing i have learned is to trust in harbaugh..he knows what he is doing

i think that pretty much sums it up,,im not gonna sit here and act like i know what better for his team than he does, dude can coach...

suicidekings · 12-03-12, 11:08 PM

On the topic of rookie (or near-rookie QBs), we're seeing this year more than ever how NFL-ready some of them are coming out of college. If Griffin, Luck, Tannehill, Wilson, etc can all come in and have the impact they have, the notion of a young QB leading a team deep into the playoffs is not so remote as it may have once seemed.

Speedy88 · 12-03-12, 11:11 PM

Only teams that have a chance to be in the superbowl in the AFC are the Broncos, Texans, and Steelers.

As for the NFC, it is pretty wide open, but 49ers are at the top. If the Falcons make it, it is only because of home-field advantage.

If I had to make a prediciton, I'd say 49ers vs Broncos.

MidgetTossers · 12-03-12, 11:13 PM

^This

MidgetTossers · 12-03-12, 11:15 PM

That was meant for SK's Post

2daBank · 12-03-12, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

Only teams that have a chance to be in the superbowl in the AFC are the Broncos, Texans, and Steelers.

As for the NFC, it is pretty wide open, but 49ers are at the top. If the Falcons make it, it is only because of home-field advantage.

If I had to make a prediciton, I'd say 49ers vs Broncos.

why so quick to count out pats? not like they my choice but it little careless to act like they dont have a chance....

Shark · 12-03-12, 11:22 PM

big ben won it in his 2nd yr. His first yr he got trounced at new england I believe..

Speedy88 · 12-03-12, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

why so quick to count out pats? not like they my choice but it little careless to act like they dont have a chance....

Your right, they have a chance. I just don't think they are good enough on defense to make it to the superbowl. A lot will depend on Gronk's return as well.

Speedy88 · 12-03-12, 11:25 PM

I will say this, the two most overrated teams in the NFL are the Ravens and Falcons. They'll be exposed once the playoffs start. Only thing that can save them are first round bye's and home field advantage.

Dexter · 12-03-12, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by MidgetTossers

have you guys really watched Kap play so far? he is not a run first qb..he has made some very nice throws and has quite possibly the strongest arm in the nfl..no joke..he threw a perfect and i mean perfect throw to walker in the endzone that should have sealed the deal yesterday but walker somehow missed it..it was somewhat of a strange move by harbaugh at this point of the season to make this change but i am 100% behind it..you already know what u have in alex so test this kid and see what u got..if for some reason it doesnt work out(which i dont see at all) then u go back to alex..for people who think that alex would be butt hurt by this they are wrong..this dude is resilient and has been through a bunch of shit his whole career..hes a pro and will always be a pro..one thing i have learned is to trust in harbaugh..he knows what he is doing

9 carries for 84 yards? stop bro....he is a running QB (just like RG3, Cam etc).....please show me when a guy like this has ever won the Superbowl. It doesnt happen, and until it does one day, i will continue to back guys like Rodgers, Manning etc in the big game.

Dexter · 12-03-12, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

I will say this, the two most overrated teams in the NFL are the Ravens and Falcons. They'll be exposed once the playoffs start. Only thing that can save them are first round bye's and home field advantage.

could not agree more....1 and done for the falcons. ravens will win if at home.

Dexter · 12-03-12, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyBrooklyn

49er's /Steve Young Mid 90's

My pick is Indy Colt's Vs. Seattle Seachicken's

that was the only guy that stuck out in my mind - he was good for around 400 rushing yards per year.

MidgetTossers · 12-04-12, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by Dexter

9 carries for 84 yards? stop bro....he is a running QB (just like RG3, Cam etc).....please show me when a guy like this has ever won the Superbowl. It doesnt happen, and until it does one day, i will continue to back guys like Rodgers, Manning etc in the big game.

i'm not here to argue with you dex or compare him to the mannings or rodgers of the world but i do like what i see with my own 2 eyes..the kid can make all the throws..the good new is that we will find out soon how far he can take them

Dexter · 12-09-12, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by MidgetTossers

i'm not here to argue with you dex or compare him to the mannings or rodgers of the world but i do like what i see with my own 2 eyes..the kid can make all the throws..the good new is that we will find out soon how far he can take them

Originally posted by Dexter

(2u) 49ers -10

Have i told you lately how much i love Colin K? Guy is legit...

mets710 · 12-10-12, 12:29 AM

Patriots or Broncos will win AFC..... 49ers or Giants will win NFC. Could very be a Manning superbowl.

OTL · 12-10-12, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by mets710

Could very be a Manning superbowl.

That would be awesome, and one of the highest rated Superbowls ever. One team I could see going to the Superbowl that still manages to fly under the radar is Seattle. They get matched up against the right teams and it could happen. I just want to see one of NYG, Seattle, or Denver win it all - they're the teams I have Superbowl futures on.

Slimpickens · 12-10-12, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by OTL

That would be awesome, and one of the highest rated Superbowls ever. One team I could see going to the Superbowl that still manages to fly under the radar is Seattle. They get matched up against the right teams and it could happen. I just want to see one of NYG, Seattle, or Denver win it all - they're the teams I have Superbowl futures on.

I agree Seattle could be dangerous in a NFC with no clear cut favorite.

Frisco · 12-10-12, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by 2daBank

wasnt big ben a rookie when they won his 1st one?

If you're talking about 1st SB the answer is no. Believe he lost in AFC championship game that year

Frisco · 12-10-12, 12:58 AM

Rematch of last years game.

Goat Milk · 01-13-13, 03:10 PM

we'll see who ends up winning this thread no coin.

when i do just shoot me a pm that says thanks.

Goat Milk · 01-13-13, 03:19 PM

read the posts in this thread. classic knee jerk reactions. sbr never learns.