QB toughness....

WvGambler · 11-04-12, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by stealthyburrito

wv, last call is the break between the 3rd and 4th quarter.

you've had enough tonight.

Yes sir

No coincidences · 11-04-12, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by McBa1n

Very true - no doubt on how much bigger/faster/stronger players are in the modern game.
Ever seen tape on Damon Deacon Jones or guys like "Night Train" Lane from way back (I know he was a DB, but still, forearm blows/headslaps were legal back then)? The game was allowed to be more physical even as recent as the 80s when they installed the '2 step' rule to prevent cheap shots on the QB. There sure were a lot of beasts even back then... Not as many 'freaks' like the modern era, but sheesh - no idea how most of those QBs even lived, because it was easy as crap to cheap shot a QB... And remember, they weren't wearing body armor that can stop incredible amounts of force.

Oh, no doubt. Trust me, I wouldn't want to be hit over the middle by Ronnie Lott or sacked by LT.

I'm just saying there weren't as many of them back in the day as there are now. It truly amazes me how many teams have DPRs that are just destroyers now.

stealthyburrito · 11-04-12, 10:11 PM

tony went down like a bitch

InTheDrink · 11-04-12, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by stealthyburrito

wv, last call is the break between the 3rd and 4th quarter.

you've had enough tonight.

stealther can you make an exception if we go to overtime?

WvGambler · 11-04-12, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Oh, no doubt. Trust me, I wouldn't want to be hit over the middle by Ronnie Lott or sacked by LT.

I'm just saying there weren't as many of them back in the day as there are now. It truly amazes me how many teams have DPRs that are just destroyers now.

It won't be long before some of these lightning fast freaks get paid huge money to become OL. It'll happen. They streamlined DL, it will happen on the other side of the ball. Power running is becoming a thing of the past.

No coincidences · 11-04-12, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by WvGambler

It won't be long before some of these lightning fast freaks get paid huge money to become OL. It'll happen. They streamlined DL, it will happen on the other side of the ball. Power running is becoming a thing of the past.

Yeah, I've often wondered why it's taken so long. I agree 100%.

stealthyburrito · 11-04-12, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by InTheDrink

stealther can you make an exception if we go to overtime?

if that happens we are wetting our whistles all night.

ronzer · 11-04-12, 10:49 PM

Didn't see Favre's name mentioned anywhere(which is a must for a topic like this). I was at a NYG@GB game a few years back. Brett got concussed and was on the sidelines. It was 4th and 4, he heard his number and ran on the field waving the backup off the field. Then he threw a 40 yard TD.

RavensFan2k3 · 11-04-12, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Do you know how big Brady is in person? Are you 6-4, 230?

No, im 6'5" 260

McBa1n · 11-04-12, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Oh, no doubt. Trust me, I wouldn't want to be hit over the middle by Ronnie Lott or sacked by LT.

I'm just saying there weren't as many of them back in the day as there are now. It truly amazes me how many teams have DPRs that are just destroyers now.

You actually bring up a good point about being hit over the middle (not to get too off topic). I was thinking about that this morning when reviewing some tape. Man, receivers still get railed over the middle - but with the current rules? Sheesh - lots of yards that didn't happen even 5 years ago happen over the middle all the time now. You just did NOT go in the middle of the field vs a player like Ronnie Lott... Unless you wanted to spend time on a stretcher.

But hell yeah man, I'm with you. In the history of the NFL, I don't think there have been more game changing players defensively that can hit you like a truck.

McBa1n · 11-04-12, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by ronzer

Didn't see Favre's name mentioned anywhere(which is a must for a topic like this). I was at a NYG@GB game a few years back. Brett got concussed and was on the sidelines. It was 4th and 4, he heard his number and ran on the field waving the backup off the field. Then he threw a 40 yard TD.

Anyone who watched him play (or as someone like me that have seem 99.99% of his professional snaps), there's no need to bring him up. It's already understood he's the toughest mofo to play the position since Unitas. The guy played a SEASON with a f'd up THROWING HAND thumb. And by f'd up, it was trashed - and he still kept the team 'in the hunt'. His consecutive games played streak is the stuff of legend. People don't appreciate him because of his retirement crap and espn over-saturation, but in reality, over time, his legend will only grow. It would also help for him to re-connect with Packer fans he basically has given the finger to. As far as toughness goes in the modern era, the gold standard begins/ends with Favre... Also gotta mention the toughness of his heart. Guy played sick lights out (with a lot of luck) the Monday Night after his pops died.

WvGambler · 11-04-12, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by ronzer

Didn't see Favre's name mentioned anywhere(which is a must for a topic like this). I was at a NYG@GB game a few years back. Brett got concussed and was on the sidelines. It was 4th and 4, he heard his number and ran on the field waving the backup off the field. Then he threw a 40 yard TD.

I left his name out only because I feel like everyone believes and agrees that he's tough as hell. No one thinks Brett wears a skirt.

InTheDrink · 11-04-12, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by stealthyburrito

if that happens we are wetting our whistles all night.

only a fg away!

InTheDrink · 11-04-12, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by McBa1n

Anyone who watched him play (or as someone like me that have seem 99.99% of his professional snaps), there's no need to bring him up. It's already understood he's the toughest mofo to play the position since Unitas. The guy played a SEASON with a f'd up THROWING HAND thumb. And by f'd up, it was trashed - and he still kept the team 'in the hunt'. His consecutive games played streak is the stuff of legend. People don't appreciate him because of his retirement crap and espn over-saturation, but in reality, over time, his legend will only grow. It would also help for him to re-connect with Packer fans he basically has given the finger to. As far as toughness goes in the modern era, the gold standard begins/ends with Favre... Also gotta mention the toughness of his heart. Guy played sick lights out (with a lot of luck) the Monday Night after his pops died.

even when he was 70 years old he played half a season with an ankle broken in two places

WvGambler · 11-04-12, 11:07 PM

I'm a huge Favre fan, always have been. But let's not forget that the guy was stoned out of his skull for a while. That helped for a few of those injuries.

ronzer · 11-04-12, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by InTheDrink

even when he was 70 years old he played half a season with an ankle broken in two places

Yeah he got pretty messed up in that Saints championship game.

InTheDrink · 11-04-12, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by WvGambler

I'm a huge Favre fan, always have been. But let's not forget that the guy was stoned out of his skull for a while. That helped for a few of those injuries.

anyone with an injury is to some degree

look at the kid who qb's for missouri....took a rash of shit for not taking pain killers to play