Non-Pros Should be able to get stuff...

mynameismud · 11-02-12, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by teaserpleaser

Brokedikk fukks can just go pro problem solved

did you give to the doctor charity?

GOIRISH · 11-02-12, 01:47 PM

These talks never work, but they need to have an amateur class for non pros that dont want to drop 200 on a charity. make it like $25 bucks and then give amateurs full run on the store but with price increases like us non pros back in the day got. also would be nice if we could get into the chat and point transfers

tblues2005 · 11-02-12, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by GOIRISH

These talks never work, but they need to have an amateur class for non pros that dont want to drop 200 on a charity. make it like $25 bucks and then give amateurs full run on the store but with price increases like us non pros back in the day got. also would be nice if we could get into the chat and point transfers

That is something Lou and John needs to consider here. I agree with Shari here that certification of the account is an option also. That may be a very good option for this in the future. $200 is quite a hit for some here that is living day to day with how the economy is in some areas. If it was like $25 or $50 then you would have more pros too.

shari91 · 11-02-12, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by tblues2005

That is something Lou and John needs to consider here. I agree with Shari here that certification of the account is an option also. That may be a very good option for this in the future. $200 is quite a hit for some here that is living day to day with how the economy is in some areas. If it was like $25 or $50 then you would have more pros too.

If it were $20 to $50 then SBR would be losing more money than it is already on this silly program. Which not only would endanger my job (selfish Shari alert) but wouldn't be smart business wise. We don't have the manpower to try to regulate different levels of Pro status. And if you only paid $25-50 you'd be ripping SBR off. Already if you just collect your points each day for logging in you make more than $200 just by cashing in bloody pizzas or at Moneybookers depending on where you live. Which is also why I despised the idea of the 2750 pt renewal option. And I'm a bitch (obv).

$200 is a lot of cash no doubt. It's a lot for me as a single mum and I imagine it's a lot for many others who come to SBR. But with that you get more than enough perks to recoup that $200. And if you choose to not or can't become a Pro I think there's enough at SBR as a whole to still make it worthwhile. Everyone matters. But this place can't be a charity. These saps almost ran it like one a couple of years back and so many dodgy fukkers came out of the woodwork that now it has to be properly regulated to be fair for everyone, no?

frizzelli · 11-02-12, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by shari91

If it were $20 to $50 then SBR would be losing more money than it is already on this silly program. Which not only would endanger my job (selfish Shari alert) but wouldn't be smart business wise. We don't have the manpower to try to regulate different levels of Pro status. And if you only paid $25-50 you'd be ripping SBR off. Already if you just collect your points each day for logging in you make more than $200 just by cashing in bloody pizzas or at Moneybookers depending on where you live. Which is also why I despised the idea of the 2750 pt renewal option as I think it's a cop out. And lame. And I'm a bitch (obv).

$200 is a lot of cash no doubt. It's a lot for me as a single mum and I imagine it's a lot for many others who come to SBR. But with that you get more than enough perks to recoup that $200. And if you choose to or can't not become a Pro I think there's enough at SBR as a whole to still make it worthwhile. Everyone matters. But this place can't be a charity. These saps almost ran it like one a couple of years back and so many dodgy fukkers came out of the woodwork that now it has to be properly regulated to be fair for everyone, no?

Do they still have this 2750 point option availible to renew pro status?

keyboarding · 11-02-12, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by marcojuiceman

So players have to give $200 to a charity Deposit another $200 with a Book, so they can buy something in SBR worth Less than $400 Really??

Some people who have money in sportsbooks actually win, so they aren't "giving $200", they are investing it.

God bless.

5mike5 · 11-02-12, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by keyboarding

Some people who have money in sportsbooks actually win, so they aren't "giving $200", they are investing it.

God bless.

agree

plus, u get more than the $200 it costs to turn pro status back if u just buy gift tcards or whatever

Dirty Sanchez · 11-02-12, 02:22 PM

Last year I actually saved up and gave the kids next door and across the street gift cards to Gamestop, Best Buy, etc. Funny my windows didn't get soaped this year and the tires stay on my car

Justin3587 · 11-02-12, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by shari91

If it were $20 to $50 then SBR would be losing more money than it is already on this silly program. Which not only would endanger my job (selfish Shari alert) but wouldn't be smart business wise. We don't have the manpower to try to regulate different levels of Pro status. And if you only paid $25-50 you'd be ripping SBR off. Already if you just collect your points each day for logging in you make more than $200 just by cashing in bloody pizzas or at Moneybookers depending on where you live. Which is also why I despised the idea of the 2750 pt renewal option. And I'm a bitch (obv).

$200 is a lot of cash no doubt. It's a lot for me as a single mum and I imagine it's a lot for many others who come to SBR. But with that you get more than enough perks to recoup that $200. And if you choose to not or can't become a Pro I think there's enough at SBR as a whole to still make it worthwhile. Everyone matters. But this place can't be a charity. These saps almost ran it like one a couple of years back and so many dodgy fukkers came out of the woodwork that now it has to be properly regulated to be fair for everyone, no?

Shari, if you make me pro, I will cosign everything you said.

Maniac · 11-02-12, 02:35 PM

It's probably worth the cost of going Pro just to stop the locals round here answering virtually every post a non-pro makes with "never f'n heard of you pal"

Wilfred · 11-02-12, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by shari91

If it were $20 to $50 then SBR would be losing more money than it is already on this silly program. Which not only would endanger my job (selfish Shari alert) but wouldn't be smart business wise. We don't have the manpower to try to regulate different levels of Pro status. And if you only paid $25-50 you'd be ripping SBR off. Already if you just collect your points each day for logging in you make more than $200 just by cashing in bloody pizzas or at Moneybookers depending on where you live. Which is also why I despised the idea of the 2750 pt renewal option. And I'm a bitch (obv).

$200 is a lot of cash no doubt. It's a lot for me as a single mum and I imagine it's a lot for many others who come to SBR. But with that you get more than enough perks to recoup that $200. And if you choose to not or can't become a Pro I think there's enough at SBR as a whole to still make it worthwhile. Everyone matters. But this place can't be a charity. These saps almost ran it like one a couple of years back and so many dodgy fukkers came out of the woodwork that now it has to be properly regulated to be fair for everyone, no?

How exactly is SBR making money off the donations to charity?

crustyme · 11-02-12, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by Wilfred

How exactly is SBR making money off the donations to charity?

tax write-off.

High3rEl3m3nt · 11-02-12, 03:26 PM

I think you are misreading what Shari wrote. If it costs less to become a pro, Shari is saying that more people would likely become one and the SBR store would be hit up more often, which would create a higher overhead.

I like the idea of bagging the whole point system, but that's obviously not going to happen because people have already bought in to it.

Wilfred · 11-02-12, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by High3rEl3m3nt

I think you are misreading what Shari wrote. If it costs less to become a pro, Shari is saying that more people would likely become one and the SBR store would be hit up more often, which would create a higher overhead.

I like the idea of bagging the whole point system, but that's obviously not going to happen because people have already bought in to it.

That very well could be. The way I read it is when she said you'd be ripping SBR off if you paid $25-$50 so I'd assume that means they are getting something out of the donations.

marcojuiceman · 11-02-12, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by High3rEl3m3nt

I think you are misreading what Shari wrote. If it costs less to become a pro, Shari is saying that more people would likely become one and the SBR store would be hit up more often, which would create a higher overhead.

I like the idea of bagging the whole point system, but that's obviously not going to happen because people have already bought in to it.

So what you are saying to us is that SBR is getting money of the top of the $200 donation????

Example if every poster paid the donation (SBR fee) and everyone hits up the store that wouldn't hurt them.. I guess it wouldnt if they are getting money from the those Contributed donations

Please tell me this is not TRUE
How can SBR be hit hard if they are getting money from those A and B book advertisers and Affiliate links.. Something is not smelling right here...

TPowell · 11-02-12, 05:29 PM

can somebody explain to me the benefits of being a pro? I never really followed along from the start

More access to poker tournaments (what tournaments exactly)
more contents (which ones?)

GOIRISH · 11-02-12, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by shari91

If it were $20 to $50 then SBR would be losing more money than it is already on this silly program. Which not only would endanger my job (selfish Shari alert) but wouldn't be smart business wise. We don't have the manpower to try to regulate different levels of Pro status. And if you only paid $25-50 you'd be ripping SBR off. Already if you just collect your points each day for logging in you make more than $200 just by cashing in bloody pizzas or at Moneybookers depending on where you live. Which is also why I despised the idea of the 2750 pt renewal option. And I'm a bitch (obv).

$200 is a lot of cash no doubt. It's a lot for me as a single mum and I imagine it's a lot for many others who come to SBR. But with that you get more than enough perks to recoup that $200. And if you choose to not or can't become a Pro I think there's enough at SBR as a whole to still make it worthwhile. Everyone matters. But this place can't be a charity. These saps almost ran it like one a couple of years back and so many dodgy fukkers came out of the woodwork that now it has to be properly regulated to be fair for everyone, no?

No its not fair to everyone, mainly us customers. Make every one kiss away 200 to charities and then we can talk fair. Maybe you guys would like to explain why non pros are not allowed to use chat? Is that putting sbr in the poor house? Perhaps we are colluding ways to scam free pizzas?

High3rEl3m3nt · 11-02-12, 05:36 PM

Marco, your post if confusing. How do you not understand how a higher overhead means less profit? If the route to becoming a pro costs less and more users become one, then it obv. means that SBR has to dip in more frequently to honor point redemptions.

tto827 · 11-02-12, 05:47 PM

I can safely say that all the people here complaining about it are voting for Obama. If you really come here and sign on everyday just so that you get 6 fukkin points that is pathetic. You come here to look through players talk, venture into the saloon, and find some good picks for the day/week.

You people are pathetic SBR doesn't have to give you shit, if you want that stuff, meet the criteria they set, and its all yours.

Duff85 · 11-02-12, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by YorkHunt

Why wouldnt SBR allow non-pros to get items just inflate them 100%+?

A pizza can cost 400 SBR points.

Will send you a photo of my rooster for 300 points. 2 a day picture on full payment.

GOIRISH · 11-02-12, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by tto827

I can safely say that all the people here complaining about it are voting for Obama. If you really come here and sign on everyday just so that you get 6 fukkin points that is pathetic. You come here to look through players talk, venture into the saloon, and find some good picks for the day/week.

You people are pathetic SBR doesn't have to give you shit, if you want that stuff, meet the criteria they set, and its all yours.

I can safely say that you are wrong, i am not voting for obama. Im not upset that we cant buy pizzas with our points, but id still like to be able to use the chat and give more than 2pts away a day to people.

jjaycuny · 11-02-12, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by tto827

I can safely say that all the people here complaining about it are voting for Obama. If you really come here and sign on everyday just so that you get 6 fukkin points that is pathetic. You come here to look through players talk, venture into the saloon, and find some good picks for the day/week.

You people are pathetic SBR doesn't have to give you shit, if you want that stuff, meet the criteria they set, and its all yours.

Exactly. Typical degenerate gamblers always want something for nothing.

tto827 · 11-02-12, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by GOIRISH

I can safely say that you are wrong, i am not voting for obama. Im not upset that we cant buy pizzas with our points, but id still like to be able to use the chat and give more than 2pts away a day to people.

Can you imagine what chat would be like with non-pros, it would be players talk without 50 threads to separate conversation. And they have to limit you for scamming reasons. My post was not directed at you at all if those are your complaints, I'm talking to the people who think they should be receiving from this site while making minor to no contribution. That being said, the give away of one free PRO status to one person each year would be cool. Have a poll, or a capping contest, possibilities are endless.

GOIRISH · 11-02-12, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by tto827

Can you imagine what chat would be like with non-pros, it would be players talk without 50 threads to separate conversation. And they have to limit you for scamming reasons. My post was not directed at you at all if those are your complaints, I'm talking to the people who think they should be receiving from this site while making minor to no contribution. That being said, the give away of one free PRO status to one person each year would be cool. Have a poll, or a capping contest, possibilities are endless.

they use to allow non pros in the chat, it was like 15 people max during prime time. It was like all these in game threads when a game was going on except you didnt have to keep refreshing.

High3rEl3m3nt · 11-02-12, 06:34 PM

Yah, there really wasn't too many members in Chat when it was open to non-pros.

tto827 · 11-02-12, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by High3rEl3m3nt

Yah, there really wasn't too many members in Chat when it was open to non-pros.

You and Irish have been here longer so I'll trust you on that, while I am still shocked. Are you going pro element you got a solid number of points?

RogueScholar · 11-02-12, 06:52 PM

Chat was closed to non-Pros to keep the referral bonus hustlers like ZetaPsi and RyanLeafOfBets from using it to line their pockets, and to keep malicious serial ghosters like Chi_Archie from using it to gain access to SBR posters while banned. Now people that abuse the feature can be properly excluded from it.

High3rEl3m3nt · 11-02-12, 07:04 PM

I don't feel limited by being a non-pro. Points don't really matter to me...I would give them all away if I could, which is probably a good reason that non-pros can't give more than 2 pts a day.

With that being said, if SBR decided to make this a subscription site--no ads, no deals with books, and even no points, I would gladly pay an annual or monthly fee without question. I know that this is not realistic, so I am okay with being a non-pro. For me, I really enjoy the community that is at SBR and there's a lot of great posters in the sub-forums that most people do not know about. There some great ones in players talk too. These posters are the reason that I am here.

downsouth · 11-02-12, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by RogueScholar

Chat was closed to non-Pros to keep the referral bonus hustlers like ZetaPsi and RyanLeafOfBets from using it to line their pockets, and to keep malicious serial ghosters like Chi_Archie from using it to gain access to SBR posters while banned. Now people that abuse the feature can be properly excluded from it.

Yeah, I never understood why they banned non pros from chat. Not that im big into chat but doesnt really seem like there is much to gain/lose from allowing them. If specific individuals have less than wholesome intentions than so be it but banning the whole lot of non-pros doesnt make much sense.

shady610 · 11-02-12, 08:38 PM

im a non pro and i have been coming here for 7 years. I totally understand not being able to enjoy store benefits

marcojuiceman · 11-02-12, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by High3rEl3m3nt

Marco, your post if confusing. How do you not understand how a higher overhead means less profit? If the route to becoming a pro costs less and more users become one, then it obv. means that SBR has to dip in more frequently to honor point redemptions.

REPEAT: So what you are saying to us is that SBR is getting money of the top of the $200 donation????

Originally posted by shari91

If it were $20 to $50 then SBR would be losing more money than it is already on this silly program.

This^^^^^

ThaWoj · 11-03-12, 12:05 AM

Shari is dead on. The ghosting was/would be ridiculous. U could have 10 accounts in a contest, rig poker, stiff point loans etc etc etc

I do like justin3587s idea of having a contest to win pro status.

Btw, shoutout to sam (and all of sbr). Just got my sbr nike polo, its very nice. Fast shipping. And my pizza cards and 5Dimes cash from back in the day would always be sent promptly.