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  • Capybara
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 08-17-08
    • 11803

    #1
    If you were making a pro athlete's salary, how much would you help family + friends?
    Bluehorseshoe's thread made me think of this question. It's an interesting philosophical question.

    Say you suddenly lucked into something where you went from making your just-squeeze-by salary to suddenly having way more, like now you're making 5 million per or whatever... Just what percentage do you think you would really give away and how would you parse it out?

    Since there's no effing way this would ever happen to any of us, it's at least interesting to ponder. I'm betting that greed would settle in for most of you/us, and it would be harder than you think to just say "Hey, man, here, take 100,000 bucks of my money."
  • tto827
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-01-12
    • 9078

    #2
    I don't think there is any reason to just give your money away to friends and family. You could help in the purchase of something they need, but I would never just go to my friends house and hand him a check for 50k.
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    • Chi_archie
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-22-08
      • 63172

      #3
      I don't have a very big extended family

      I'd treat those that matter to me most.

      i'd hire someone to manage a charity trust that i'd start and let them sort out all the "friend" requests for help that weren't a part of my daily life and relavent in a real way.
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      • Capybara
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 08-17-08
        • 11803

        #4
        Originally posted by tto827
        I don't think there is any reason to just give your money away to friends and family. You could help in the purchase of something they need, but I would never just go to my friends house and hand him a check for 50k.
        That's a great point. That's a good way to do it. Like I'm very close with one of my brothers, and I'm certain he'd be expecting me to majorly help him out, which I would. But yes, that is the right way to do it, that way you wouldn't need to come up with some figure -- you'd just say Hey, Man, let me help you fix up your place, or let me give you guys a nice vacation, etc.
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        • seaborneq
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-08-06
          • 22556

          #5
          I wouldn't tell anybody. Saves me from hating them and them from hating me. If they ask have I come into a large sum of money my response would be "No hable espano".
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          • ronzer
            SBR MVP
            • 10-31-10
            • 1580

            #6
            I'd be like Vince in Entourage.
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            • robzilla
              SBR MVP
              • 10-25-07
              • 3556

              #7
              I would hook up my immediate family, but not extended family.
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              • showtiime
                SBR MVP
                • 06-16-11
                • 2850

                #8
                sharing is caring
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                • PanamaBrad
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 03-22-11
                  • 717

                  #9
                  Any of my family and friends who "expected" me to do for them would immediately be removed from the family and friends list and be moved to the leach/moocher list. They wouldn't get the sweat off my balls. Those that never asked for a cent i would do nice things for them as the urge hit me. To do anything more than that is not doing them or u any favors.
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                  • TheCentaur
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 06-28-11
                    • 8108

                    #10
                    You think this is far fetched but I was at the driving range the other day and was killing it. Then I went to the putt putt next door and beat my girlfriend by about 10 strokes. I was just about to check online for the nearest open qualifying courses when I saw this thread.

                    Once the endorsements start rolling in (that's where the real money is) I would first and foremost make sure I paid a little more to my pal the government. It used to be called "my fair share" but since around the recent debates it started being called "a little more". It will probably soon be called "the rich bastard penalty" but what do I care I'll be rolling in it and Washington needs my help.

                    Then I will concentrate on helping out my friends and family. I would probably buy them things like houses and cars and boats and such but keep it in my name so they don't have to pay taxes on it (again). I would be sure to leave these items to them in my will. This presents a whole new expense of a round the clock personal security team but for the most part my family and friends are good people, it's just a precaution.

                    One rule I would have is no helping out friends that haven't talked to me or called me in over a month prior to my first PGA tour win. I don't need ex girlfriends and frienemies trying to cash in. That sort of drama might give me the yips
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                    • Cuse0323
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                      • 12-09-09
                      • 30169

                      #11
                      Would help my mom and sister with whatever they needed, other than that, wouldn't help my friends since I recently learned most of them aren't true friends anyway. I would probably blow most of it going out and buying unnecessary things like most athletes, I'd be perfect for a pro athletes salary.
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                      • GOIRISH
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-25-10
                        • 2072

                        #12
                        i would hook up my immediate family. and a couple family friends. Then setup college funds for my young cousins, neices and nephews. Then id help out everyone else by giving them rides in my ferrari
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                        • TheMoneyShot
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                          • 02-14-07
                          • 28672

                          #13
                          I think you would help most of your family with food, clothing, and if they were behind on their mortgage etc... but I don't think anyone should ever start buying gifts. Remember, just because you have a solid 5 year contract with a team... what happens in your 6th year you have a medical situation in which... you couldn't earn professional money anymore? Then what would you do? It's nice to give to your family... but you come first. Think about it... would they bail you out?
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                          • Capybara
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 08-17-08
                            • 11803

                            #14
                            Some interesting thoughts in here... Don't forget that you'd need to share equally among your immediate family so there wouldn't be resentment. But I agree that the extended family can fukk off for the most part.

                            Showtiime, you're already loaded, so if sharing is caring, help a brutha out!!
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                            • TPowell
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 02-21-08
                              • 18842

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TheCentaur
                              You think this is far fetched but I was at the driving range the other day and was killing it. Then I went to the putt putt next door and beat my girlfriend by about 10 strokes. I was just about to check online for the nearest open qualifying courses when I saw this thread.

                              Once the endorsements start rolling in (that's where the real money is) I would first and foremost make sure I paid a little more to my pal the government. It used to be called "my fair share" but since around the recent debates it started being called "a little more". It will probably soon be called "the rich bastard penalty" but what do I care I'll be rolling in it and Washington needs my help.

                              Then I will concentrate on helping out my friends and family. I would probably buy them things like houses and cars and boats and such but keep it in my name so they don't have to pay taxes on it (again). I would be sure to leave these items to them in my will. This presents a whole new expense of a round the clock personal security team but for the most part my family and friends are good people, it's just a precaution.

                              One rule I would have is no helping out friends that haven't talked to me or called me in over a month prior to my first PGA tour win. I don't need ex girlfriends and frienemies trying to cash in. That sort of drama might give me the yips

                              what is your handicap? I would like to get mine down to scratch soon and play some qualifiers, but its tough. I've shot 65's on my local course but whole different ball game away from home.
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                              • TheCentaur
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 06-28-11
                                • 8108

                                #16
                                Originally posted by TPowell
                                what is your handicap? I would like to get mine down to scratch soon and play some qualifiers, but its tough. I've shot 65's on my local course but whole different ball game away from home.
                                That was really just a joke, I have been around a 10 handicap for quite awhile. You sound like you have talent and i wish you luck. The main thing that separates the professionals from the talented amateurs is the mental game, especially in golf. Do you perform your best under extreme pressure? I don't think this can be learned and I hope you are one of the few, GL!
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                                • TPowell
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-21-08
                                  • 18842

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by TheCentaur
                                  That was really just a joke, I have been around a 10 handicap for quite awhile. You sound like you have talent and i wish you luck. The main thing that separates the professionals from the talented amateurs is the mental game, especially in golf. Do you perform your best under extreme pressure? I don't think this can be learned and I hope you are one of the few, GL!

                                  I perform well under pressure with money on the line IMO. I would say I'm around a 4 or 5 handicap right now, but I play my local course too much for it to really be accurate. My only real problem is my short game. I've become a much better putter lately and I'm a decent ballstriker, but my wedge game just isn't as good as it should be
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                                  • tto827
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                                    • 10-01-12
                                    • 9078

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by TPowell
                                    I perform well under pressure with money on the line IMO. I would say I'm around a 4 or 5 handicap right now, but I play my local course too much for it to really be accurate. My only real problem is my short game. I've become a much better putter lately and I'm a decent ballstriker, but my wedge game just isn't as good as it should be
                                    That's some serious variance to shoot 65 while being a 4 or 5 handicap. I'm scratch and I have never shot under 68, granted I try and stay away from the dink and dunk courses now-a-days, but still. I've shot 5-under on a side before, fell apart on the back though to finish 2 deep. And just a warning, going from 4 to scratch is very tough. Definitely have to have a solid short game if you are going anywhere with it.

                                    I was talking to Roberto Castro (he played at GT and has his tour card but trying to move up the ranks still) and he said, "Nobody ever ball-struck their way onto the tour. Every guy out there has a better short-game then anyone you have ever played with." He then went on to say that ball-striking is often what moves guys in the 75-125 range on the moneylist, down into the single digits.
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                                    • Big Bear
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 11-01-11
                                      • 43253

                                      #19
                                      a lot man. i'm not a materialistic guy.

                                      i just want enough money to where i don't have to worry about money. i'd donate a lot of it.
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                                      • TPowell
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-21-08
                                        • 18842

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by tto827
                                        That's some serious variance to shoot 65 while being a 4 or 5 handicap. I'm scratch and I have never shot under 68, granted I try and stay away from the dink and dunk courses now-a-days, but still. I've shot 5-under on a side before, fell apart on the back though to finish 2 deep. And just a warning, going from 4 to scratch is very tough. Definitely have to have a solid short game if you are going anywhere with it.

                                        I was talking to Roberto Castro (he played at GT and has his tour card but trying to move up the ranks still) and he said, "Nobody ever ball-struck their way onto the tour. Every guy out there has a better short-game then anyone you have ever played with." He then went on to say that ball-striking is often what moves guys in the 75-125 range on the moneylist, down into the single digits.

                                        I play with a shut clubface which makes timing absolutely critical. During the summer when I play in tournaments most weekends, I literally play 5-6 days a week and HAVE to play Thursday and Friday to establish rhythm before the weekend and tournaments start.
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                                        • tto827
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 10-01-12
                                          • 9078

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by TPowell
                                          I play with a shut clubface which makes timing absolutely critical. During the summer when I play in tournaments most weekends, I literally play 5-6 days a week and HAVE to play Thursday and Friday to establish rhythm before the weekend and tournaments start.
                                          Interesting. I would say thats a positive though, because if there is that much timing involved, you have significant room for improvement. I used to be a hack, hit 4 maybe 6 greens a round max, but chip and putt my way to sub 80 rounds. At that point I was the same way, but then I started to get burned out come tourney time.

                                          I now devote at least an hour or so a day to golf, but only 3-4 days a week on the course, and only hitting balls 2-3 times a week. Hitting the gym and increasing hip/shoulder/back flexibility becomes key when trying to get from scratch to +2 or +3.
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                                          • TPowell
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                                            • 02-21-08
                                            • 18842

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by tto827
                                            Interesting. I would say thats a positive though, because if there is that much timing involved, you have significant room for improvement. I used to be a hack, hit 4 maybe 6 greens a round max, but chip and putt my way to sub 80 rounds. At that point I was the same way, but then I started to get burned out come tourney time.

                                            I now devote at least an hour or so a day to golf, but only 3-4 days a week on the course, and only hitting balls 2-3 times a week. Hitting the gym and increasing hip/shoulder/back flexibility becomes key when trying to get from scratch to +2 or +3.

                                            It's very awkward to watch. I have a video on youtube of it exactly, I'll pm it to you
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                                            • freeVICK
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                                              • 01-21-08
                                              • 7114

                                              #23
                                              Play to a 4 handicap myself. IMO what separates the scratch golfers from tour pros is the short game. How those pros save par from everywhere and avg 28 putts a round baffles me
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                                              • Deuce
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                                                • 01-12-08
                                                • 29843

                                                #24
                                                I'd piss every dime away, endorse Obama, and expect everyone else to take care of me.
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                                                • Killer_Demo
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                                                  • 06-15-08
                                                  • 8409

                                                  #25
                                                  my friends all gamble too... i'd just take em all to vegas give em 5k each and see how each one fares...cant say after i didnt do nothing for em
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                                                  • TPowell
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 02-21-08
                                                    • 18842

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by freeVICK
                                                    Play to a 4 handicap myself. IMO what separates the scratch golfers from tour pros is the short game. How those pros save par from everywhere and avg 28 putts a round baffles me

                                                    makes it easier when they play quick and perfect greens, all you have to do is get the ball started but they just have no variation in their strokes for the most part. The other thing we dont realize is how hard it is to hold those greens with anything over a 7 or 8 iron.
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                                                    • tto827
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                                                      • 10-01-12
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by TPowell
                                                      makes it easier when they play quick and perfect greens, all you have to do is get the ball started but they just have no variation in their strokes for the most part. The other thing we dont realize is how hard it is to hold those greens with anything over a 7 or 8 iron.
                                                      Yup, those greens are flawless. Those guys are incredible its as simple as that. By the way, I couldn't respond to your PM cause your box is full. Swing looks much better than I'd expected.
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                                                      • TPowell
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 02-21-08
                                                        • 18842

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by tto827
                                                        Yup, those greens are flawless. Those guys are incredible its as simple as that. By the way, I couldn't respond to your PM cause your box is full. Swing looks much better than I'd expected.
                                                        my bad, just cleaned it out. appreciate it, try to keep shit as simple as possible in my swing and let it be a natural movement
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                                                        • Avenger
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-15-11
                                                          • 2119

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by tto827
                                                          I don't think there is any reason to just give your money away to friends and family. You could help in the purchase of something they need, but I would never just go to my friends house and hand him a check for 50k.
                                                          Even if it's your mother??

                                                          To answer the OP's question: dunno, depends on the person. I can't stand what's left of my immediate family, so answer is NONE, unless they were needing healthcare or rent. New car?? Fukk them.

                                                          But to family members and friends who have helped me get to where I am, or supported me... I'd share everything I can afford. But I'm not a hoarder, if I have the money, I like sharing it with the people I love (as long as they don't abuse it).

                                                          What fun is spending millions by yourself anyways?
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                                                          • Louisvillekid1
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                                                            • 10-17-07
                                                            • 52143

                                                            #30
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                                                            • keyboarding
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                                                              • 07-30-09
                                                              • 6817

                                                              #31
                                                              Start a business and employ them all. Idle hands and whatnot.

                                                              God bless.
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                                                              • CollegeOverUnder
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                                                                • 10-20-10
                                                                • 5520

                                                                #32
                                                                ALL FAMILY would be GIVING some SORT of MONEY NO QUESTIONS ASKED. BEST FRIENDS WOULD BE TREATED like the BEST FRIENDS they are to me also
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                                                                • Ernie Mccracken
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-11-11
                                                                  • 1986

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Almost all athletes end up broke for a reason. #1 on that list is friends and family.
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                                                                  • paranoyd androyd
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                                                                    • 10-01-11
                                                                    • 6459

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                                                    Would help my mom and sister with whatever they needed, other than that, wouldn't help my friends since I recently learned most of them aren't true friends anyway. I would probably blow most of it going out and buying unnecessary things like most athletes, I'd be perfect for a pro athletes salary.
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