Will Roger Federer win the next major? What are the odds in your mind?

[hoopster42]

What do you estimate his chances are at a RG win?

fed's chances at RG?

12%

he is 0-4 v nadal there since 05 and has lost 12 sets to 3

nadal owns him there and nadal unless he's injured will win the next 4 frenchs

[SBR Lou]

I'd raise that bar considerably higher. Don't underestimate him.

[hoopster42]

actually, i messed up, fed has lost sets by a number of 16-4 at RG

i'll say 16% chance max, that is MAX

unless nadal is hurt

[hoopster42]

I'd raise that bar considerably higher. Don't underestimate him.

crazyL telling ME not to underestimate fed?

irony!

hahaha

love you bro

[daggerkobe]

Federer is WASHED UP.... have you not been watching this year?

[hoopster42]

Federer is WASHED UP.... have you not been watching this year?

here we go again

fed makes the aussie semis w/a case of mono

fed makes the french final where he loses to best clay-courter ever

fed makes the wimbledon final and plays in greatest match ever

fed starts losing in august and 97% of ppl on internet bury him including daggerkobe, but HOOPSTER42 says NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, fed is NOT done


THEN FED WINS THE US OPEN


dagger, you cant be this ignorant

[vanman]

Can`t see Fed being ranked in the top 3 come the end of next season,there`s too much competition now.

[Wheell]

Roland Garros might be tough due to wear and tear. I just don't see Fed winning RG in his career. 10%.

[daggerkobe]

here we go again

fed makes the aussie semis w/a case of mono

fed makes the french final where he loses to best clay-courter ever

fed makes the wimbledon final and plays in greatest match ever

fed starts losing in august and 97% of ppl on internet bury him including daggerkobe, but HOOPSTER42 says NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, fed is NOT done


THEN FED WINS THE US OPEN


dagger, you cant be this ignorant

Yeah, and Bills eventually stopped making SBs after being runner-up 4 straight.

Federer is WASHED UP. But I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't bet on tennis to understand.

Aren't you the same one who claimed Olympics wasn't a major tournament, even though Federer has said otherwise and even skipped a master's event to play in it?

Dude, you're the biggest joke on this site with your abrasive personality and your I told you so's. You've been wrong way more often, but you don't bump those threads, right?

Federer got lucky at the US Open and you know it. He faced a Djokovic that was mentally drained, fighting confidence issues and hurt. Then he lucked out when the best player was knocked out by Murray. He should give that trophy to Murray, since he's the true champ.

And getting 1 right doesn't make you nostradamus, you predicted Federer would win every single tournament. So that makes you 1-20.

[daggerkobe]

Oh and I guess the Master's Cup isn't a major tournament either since Federer exited early.

[hoopster42]

And getting 1 right doesn't make you nostradamus, you predicted Federer would win every single tournament. So that makes you 1-20.

BULLSHIT.

i have always maintained that federer only plays big at the grand slams

all the great players in history only cared about the slams

the smaller, shittier players care about the small tourneys coz they need the money and endorsements

when a player retires, all ppl look at are THE GRAND SLAMS

Sampras 14
Federer 13


FEDERER IS GOD

to FED

[daggerkobe]

[meganie]

please make some predictions that come true or stfu!

good day to you

What's your point? I never said that I don't think that Fed will win. In fact, I hope/wish him to win, since he's one of my favorite player. And I think he can do it, if he stays healthy and moves alright.

Doesn't change the fact that I don't like the way you're making your "predictions". I read some posts of yours, yeah, you're a good capper, but digging out threads after three months and self-praising yourself won't give you any respect. If you're sharp, people will notice, you don't have to rub it in.

[hoopster42]

What's your point? I never said that I don't think that Fed will win. In fact, I hope/wish him to win, since he's one of my favorite player. And I think he can do it, if he stays healthy and moves alright.

Doesn't change the fact that I don't like the way you're making your "predictions". I read some posts of yours, yeah, you're a good capper, but digging out threads after three months and self-praising yourself won't give you any respect. If you're sharp, people will notice, you don't have to rub it in.

most ppl other than the crazyL's and the like cannot give credit when your pick wins and theirs loses, so i give the credit to myself. it is more of gaffe, its my schtick. yes, when i defended fed in august i was torched, flamed, ridiculed at times, but when he won the us open you bet your ass i was gona bump those threads for all the naysayers, and your goddamn rite i'll do it again, you dont like it, others dont like it? go pound sand, go play in traffic, like i give a shit, its a fukkin internet board, have some fukkin fun, let your hair down, loosen up your belt, enjoy your life, i certainly am, and have zero apologies to anyone for it

(and thanks for noticing that i'm a good capper)

good day to you

[hoopster42]

i also loved being right about kansas over memphis before the tourney started esp when ppl told me all day and all night that kansas was the weakest #1 seed

i also loved being right about the celtics over the lakers in the nba finals because it was 70% laker backers in here, collecting $1750 on my +175 bet was awesome too

and so on and so on and so on

being right never fukkin gets old, ever

[ZXCVBNM]

Can't count Fed out anywhere. These past months cause of fatigue and sickness probably, but with a few months of rest he's still #1 - the X factor here is how much the people around him have improved. Nadal ups his game and becomes #1, Murray improves ridiculously and is now a real threat for majors, Djokovic is still great... but Fed is best of them all, even though the gap has shortened.

[meganie]

i also loved being right about kansas over memphis before the tourney started esp when ppl told me all day and all night that kansas was the weakest #1 seed

i also loved being right about the celtics over the lakers in the nba finals because it was 70% laker backers in here, collecting $1750 on my +175 bet was awesome too

and so on and so on and so on

being right never fukkin gets old, ever

And you did it again...

I'm pretty new here, and one thing I noticed is the hate and bashing at some guys, who seems very reasonable to me. You're not the only one, who's getting bashed and you certainly won't get any respect, if you behave like you know everything and people with other opinions are morons. I won't argue with you anymore, I'm happy for you, if you're on the winning side.

Can't count Fed out anywhere. These past months cause of fatigue and sickness probably, but with a few months of rest he's still #1 - the X factor here is how much the people around him have improved. Nadal ups his game and becomes #1, Murray improves ridiculously and is now a real threat for majors, Djokovic is still great... but Fed is best of them all, even though the gap has shortened.

Hmm...agreed, though I think that Nadal don't have the class to compete with the other three on hard at the moment.

[daggerkobe]

And you did it again...

I'm pretty new here, and one thing I noticed is the hate and bashing at some guys, who seems very reasonable to me. You're not the only one, who's getting bashed and you certainly won't get any respect, if you behave like you know everything and people with other opinions are morons. I won't argue with you anymore, I'm happy for you, if you're on the winning side.


Hmm...agreed, though I think that Nadal don't have the class to compete with the other three on hard at the moment.

Join the club. Now everyone knows why this guy is mentally unstable and deranged.... something I've known for months.

He loves to brag about the two wins he supposedly has and that's fine and dandy but at what point does he move on? I mean I've given out hundreds of winners on this board but you don't see me bumping threads from 7 months ago to brag because I didn't get a pat on the back.

Federer could lose every match next year and he'd keep claiming he's still great. You really can't reason with a mental patient.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Then he lucked out when the best player was knocked out by Murray

Would this "best player" be the same one who always loses to the first seed he meets in hard court slams? On fast hard/indoors courts, he's no threat at all to top players, let alone to Federer. See Nadal's performances on these surfaces:


Paris: crushed by Davydenko, retires
Madrid: beaten by Simon
US Open: beaten by Murray
Cincinatti: beaten by off-form Djokovic
2007 TMC: easily beaten by Federer
2007 Paris: annihilated by Nalbandian, 6-4 6-0
2007 Madrid: annihilated by Nalbandian, 6-1 6-2
2007 US Open: comfortably beaten by Ferrer
2007 Cincinatti: straight sets by Monaco




The only reason Nadal got to the UO semis at all this year was he faced a series of nobodies (Fish, Querrey, Troicki, DeHeart, Phau ), the same sort of comically easy draw he got at the Australian. Normally he goes out in the 3rd or 4th rounds.

If Nadal had somehow got to the final, Federer would have taken great delight in completely massacring him.

[daggerkobe]

Uh, Nadal made it to the semis at the Australian Open, Finals at Chennai, Semis at Indian Wells, Finals at Miami, Won in Canada, Semis at Cincy, and Won Olympics at Beijing. All Hard courts.

Federer on hard court lost to the likes of Fish, Gilles (twice), Karlovic, and Blake this year. Nadal owned him this year going 4-0... destroyed him on clay and took away his manhood at his best surface at Wimbledon. To say he would destroy Nadal is completely retarded. He knows he's lucky Murray did the hard work for him, something he couldn't do all year: beat Nadal.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Uh, Nadal made it to the semis at the Australian Open, Finals at Chennai, Semis at Indian Wells, Finals at Miami, Won in Canada, Semis at Cincy, and Won Olympics at Beijing. All Hard courts.

Hard courts vary in speed - I did specify fast courts. Of the above:

Aussie Open: insanely easy draw, didn't play one top 20 player and Mathieu retired injured as well. Crushed easily by the first decent player he met (Tsonga)

Chennai: Insignificant tournament, and he got murdered in the final 6-0 6-1 by Youzhny.

Indian Wells: medium/slow hard court. Narrowly beat Blake, crushed by Djokovic.

Miami: medium/slow hard court. Good win against Berdych, then easily beaten by Davydenko.

Canada: medium/slow hard court. Good win against Murray, who had knocked out Djokovic. Only had to beat Kiefer in the final

Cincy: fast court. easily beaten by Djokovic. Semis don't mean much when you only have to beat Lapentti to get there.

Olympics: who cares? Most players don't treat it seriously, or in Roddick's case even turn up. The level of play can be summed up by the fact Gonzo made the final, and in 2004 the gold medallist was ........ Massu.


Like I said: fast hard court = Nadal out against the first decent player he meets. He can grind out results against lesser players yes, nobody else has the consistency to challenge him. Up against a flat hitter, he's toast on a fast court. On slower courts, he's pretty dangerous as there's almost no way through his defence. Check the matches between him and Murray in Toronto and the US Open for a perfect demo of the difference - at Flushing Meadows Murray could pound the ball to his forehand, giving Nadal very little time to respond with that big swing of his. The same tactic in Toronto didn't work, as Nadal could chase the ball down on slower courts and whip a forehand winner on the run.


Basically, Nadal isn't that good on fast courts. It's nothing new, been the same situation for years, and the reason why he's never done anything at the US or Australian Opens - he's never beaten a top 16 player at either tournament. Murray beat him at the US Open because he's a better player on that surface (and if you check back the threads at the time, I said the same thing before their match, got a nice 3-1 correct score winner at +1000 as a result).

[hoopster42]

Join the club. Now everyone knows why this guy is mentally unstable and deranged.... something I've known for months.

He loves to brag about the two wins he supposedly has and that's fine and dandy but at what point does he move on? I mean I've given out hundreds of winners on this board but you don't see me bumping threads from 7 months ago to brag because I didn't get a pat on the back.

Federer could lose every match next year and he'd keep claiming he's still great. You really can't reason with a mental patient.

blah blah blah. the fact is that head to head in picks on the same event, you are my bitch, i own you, and you know it.

you said in august that fed was washed up, i said no. bam, us open title

you said in june its the lakers all the way in the finals, i said no. bam, celtics domination of your pussy lakers

you have an inferiority complex towards me because you know i am a far more gifted capper than you. everyone here at sbr knows it

you are nothing

[daggerkobe]

See how deranged this guy is..... we never had a bet on the NBA finals, as a matter of fact I didn't even post a series pick.

And this mental patient picked Federer to win every tournament and was wrong every time. He lucks out once and thinks he's Nostradamus.

I guess the two picks he supposedly won (not posted anywhere other than the padded walls in his room) makes him a legend in his own mind. Mental illness is never pretty.

[daggerkobe]

The deranged psychopath not only invents bets but also conversations.

[hoopster42]

The deranged psychopath not only invents bets but also conversations.

well, it appears that i have confused you with lt profits when it comes to the celtics over lakers subject, perhaps you are the same poster using different handles

but i know it was you who was burying federer in august because you have penis envy towards men but you looked like a dumbass when he won the us open

and you better hope tt moneyline comes through for you becoz its a horrible pick and i will crucify you after the game

[hoopster42]

again, if you think elite tennis players care about anything but grand slams than you are ignorant when it comes to big time professional tennis

[daggerkobe]

Yes you are very confused, we can agree 100% on that.

Saying Federer will win another GS before he retires is as vague and stupid as your other vague predictions. I predict Nadal will win a GS on hard court before he retires. And I'll bump this thread even if it's 5 years later so everyone can acknowledge my greatness.

Yeah Federer doesn't care about the Olympics that's why he once skipped a masters event to attend.

Keep up the good work, psycho.

[mathdotcom]

Hmmmmmm Nadal vastly improved...... Federer declined rapidly.......

therefore Federer has MORE of a chance to win RG?

wtf?

He has 10% chance, which happens to be the same chance I give to Nadal getting sick or breaking a leg

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Doesn't need to be as serious an injury as that. Remember Rome this year - as minor a thing as blisters meant Nadal lost to Ferrero. Then a shoulder inury in Madrid, a knee injury in Paris, and he couldn't even turn up at TMC or the Davis Cup. If anything, Nadal's injuries problems are getting worse as time goes on, as a lot of people have been predicting - his playing style and the sheer bulk of muscle he carries around means crazy amount of wear on his joints, and especially on the knees. It's unfortunate, but fairly typical of the most dominant clay court players over the last 30 years.

Given he plays every single tournament in the weeks before Roland Garros, including the otherwise pointless "home" tournament in Barcelona, and tends to win all of them too so plays a lot of tennis, imo he's been extremely lucky not to have had injury issues there yet. It's almost inevitable one of these days he'll have to retire, and if that's the case Federer is easily the 2nd best around on clay - it's often ignored because of the shadow of the greatest ever clay courter, but Federer is actually an extremely strong clay player in his own right. He'd have three or probably four Roland Garros titles by now but for Nadal.

It's possible Federer's chances at Roland Garros might last longer than his hopes at hard court slams, because decreasing foot speed affects the latter more in the modern game. I'm talking 2011 more than 2009 for this though, by which time it's more than possible Nadal will be perma-injured or retired (Borg had retired by that age, and Kuerten was even younger when injuries totally nobbled him).

[hoopster42]

Yes you are very confused, we can agree 100% on that.

Saying Federer will win another GS before he retires is as vague and stupid as your other vague predictions. I predict Nadal will win a GS on hard court before he retires. And I'll bump this thread even if it's 5 years later so everyone can acknowledge my greatness.

Yeah Federer doesn't care about the Olympics that's why he once skipped a masters event to attend.

Keep up the good work, psycho.

you clearly said in august that fed was "washed up", those were the words you used. go look up what "washed up" means, it means completely done, as in a whale washed up to shore, it means dead, gone.

and then, within a few weeks of you making that comment, fed wins the us open.

you were wrong, i was right. you are an idiot, i am a sports god.

the end.

(and dont act like you didnt have the lakers to win the finals, i would bet my life savings of 6 dig's that you either bet the lakers to win the finals or bet on individual games. the lakers were 0-6 ats, so i know for a fact you lost)

you suck at capping. the only thing you bring is some mildly intelligent political talk and womens tennis

otherwise you suck. you absolutely suck at sports capping and predictions.

goodbye

[daggerkobe]

having conversations with the voices in your head again?

Sampras and Agassi were both washed up when they won their final Grand Slams. What's your point?

First sign of mental illness is remembering conversations that never happened. I never bet the series but you keep claiming I did. Why don't you ask the voices in your head, I'm sure you misremembered again and it was with one of them.

Of course you think I suck at capping....cuz you think making generalized predictions across the board makes you Nostradamus. I predict that the Lakers will lose another game this year.

[Lets_Get_Money]

If you look at some of the Lines for who's going to win the Aussie Open it's really tempting?

I don't much about Tsonga but +4000 for Del Potro is making me think a bit, Joker has a nice line at +545

Roger Federer +218
Rafael Nadal +440
Andy Murray +500
Novak Djokovic +545
Jo Wilfred Tsonga +1800
Juan Martin del Potro +4400

[SBR Lou]

If you look at some of the Lines for who's going to win the Aussie Open it's really tempting?

I don't much about Tsonga but +4000 for Del Potro is making me think a bit, Joker has a nice line at +545

Roger Federer +218
Rafael Nadal +440
Andy Murray +500
Novak Djokovic +545
Jo Wilfred Tsonga +1800
Juan Martin del Potro +4400

Federer is the favorite as predicted.

[Dark Horse]

Great players can win the important tournaments long past their prime, because of their experience and ability to peak at the right time. Especially during the late stages of their career they play for their place in history (Grand Slams). The time to bet against them would be during the smaller tournaments. They have nothing left to prove and will gladly leave the second rank tournaments to hungry up-and-coming players.

[SBR Lou]

Great players can win the important tournaments long past their prime, because of their experience and ability to peak at the right time. Especially during the late stages of their career they play for their place in history (Grand Slams). The time to bet against them would be during the smaller tournaments. They have nothing left to prove and will gladly leave the second rank tournaments to hungry up-and-coming players.

Exactly.