Will Roger Federer win the next major? What are the odds in your mind?

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  • SBR Lou
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    #1
    Will Roger Federer win the next major? What are the odds in your mind?
  • SBR Lou
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    #2
    I think -500.
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    • mathdotcom
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      • 03-24-08
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      #3
      -125
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      • englishmike
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        #4
        +250

        Andy Murray won on merit yesterday, nothing fluky about it.
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        • pimike
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          #5
          No and I will bet u on that Crazyl
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          • mathdotcom
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            • 03-24-08
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            #6
            In my mind he's +250. Probably still too shaky by Australian, especially wirh rust. Could lose to anyone. Admittedly Nadal is not as much of a threat, but who knows. Sadly, he'll probably be worse next year than this year.

            But line will probably be -125 with books recognizing everyone will want to bet him.

            -500 is crazy. I imagine you'll be pounding the line when it comes out ~ -125?
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            • mathdotcom
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              #7
              02:00 AM1001 R. Federer+215 1002 R. Nadal+420 1003 N. Djokovic+539 1004 A. Murray+474 1005 J. W. Tsonga+1702 1006 A. Roddick+3468
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              • mathdotcom
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                • 03-24-08
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                #8
                Line on fed will probably drop as tourney opens
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                • Boner_18
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                  • 08-24-08
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                  #9
                  Fed will def. be +$ (maybe +150-250) for the Aussie.
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                  • daggerkobe
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                    • 03-25-08
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                    #10
                    Fed is washed up. He should give that US open trophy to Murray since he beat the true champ.

                    I can see him losing in the earlier rounds. Prob quarters.
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                    • SBR Lou
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by mathdotcom
                      -500 is crazy. I imagine you'll be pounding the line when it comes out ~ -125?
                      It was an exaggeration but to prove a point.
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                      • durito
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                        #12
                        +245 BetFair
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                        • Tchocky
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                          #13
                          As long as he's healthy and motivated, Roger is always one of the favorites to win any tourney he enters. I think with Nadal on the sidelines, Roger can regain his #1 ranking. I think he's very motivated to break Sampras' record of 14 Slams.
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                          • SBR Lou
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Tchocky
                            As long as he's healthy and motivated, Roger is always one of the favorites to win any tourney he enters. I think with Nadal on the sidelines, Roger can regain his #1 ranking. I think he's very motivated to break Sampras' record of 14 Slams.
                            I already think Roger is winning the next French Open. Nadal ran hot for a while, but is no different than positive variance.
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                            • mathdotcom
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                              #15
                              Federer winning next french open?

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                              • SBR Lou
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by mathdotcom
                                Federer winning next french open?

                                Giants winning the Super Bowl?

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                                • meganie
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                                  • 09-09-08
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by CrazyL
                                  I already think Roger is winning the next French Open. Nadal ran hot for a while, but is no different than positive variance.
                                  Bet365 has Nadal to win it outright at -250. That's one of the most ridiculous odds I've seen.
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                                  • SBR Lou
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by meganie
                                    Bet365 has Nadal to win it outright at -250. That's one of the most ridiculous odds I've seen.
                                    Similar to bookies overpricing the Yankees and Patriots of last year all the time. They know the squares will bet blind.
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                                    • unknown Gambler
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                                      • 11-11-08
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                                      #19
                                      crazy the vip mod,do you know anything else about life other then tennis and contests and food differences between ny and texas.
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                                      • vanman
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                                        #20
                                        I`ll be amazed if Federer wins any of the slams next year,there are too many good players now.
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                                        • Shark79
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                                          • 11-19-07
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by CrazyL
                                          Similar to bookies overpricing the Yankees and Patriots of last year all the time. They know the squares will bet blind.
                                          Dont talk about the Patriots Loco L ....

                                          I havent seen if theres any odds posted but I do see this hitting within the -200 -250.

                                          Regardless of what his condition or mental game is on .... all squares know 2 or 3 names in tennis (NADAL - FED and RODDICK) therefore the books can easily win here.

                                          I wouldn't be surprised to see a -300 on him
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                                          • meganie
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                                            • 09-09-08
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by CrazyL
                                            Similar to bookies overpricing the Yankees and Patriots of last year all the time. They know the squares will bet blind.
                                            I wasn't even talking about plain overpricing.

                                            That's last year's odds:
                                            Rafael Nadal Roger Federer 6-1 6-3 6-0 -333
                                            Rafael Nadal Novak Djokovic 6-4 6-2 7-6(3) -455
                                            Rafael Nadal Nicolas Almagro 6-1 6-1 6-1 -1667
                                            Rafael Nadal Fernando Verdasco 6-1 6-0 6-2 -3333
                                            Rafael Nadal Jarkko Nieminen 6-1 6-3 6-1 -10000
                                            Rafael Nadal Nicolas Devilder 6-4 6-0 6-1 -10000
                                            Rafael Nadal Thomaz Bellucci 7-5 6-3 6-1 -10000

                                            So I could have gotten -128 just by backing him every round. And that was when he didn't lose more than 10 games every match till the semi final. Now you can't expect him to do that every year, so likely his odds could go up at least 2-3c against top 5 players. At the same time his odds will be worse than last year, because he's the No. 1. And if you sum that up you could get about the odds of at least -170 or so. That's why -250 is just ridiculous. Not to start with the overpricing simply by name you were mentioning.

                                            To go back on topic:
                                            My book seems to overrate Nadal's chances (+250) on hard and slightly underrate Federer's chances (+175). I think +150 or so seems to me about right.
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                                            • maniac0201
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                                              • 09-16-08
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                                              #23
                                              I'd put Fed at +250 to win the Aussie.
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                                              • mathdotcom
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                                                #24
                                                Even when Fed was in his prime he couldn't touch Nadal. Now Nadal is even better, and Federer is much worse, yet this is the year you think he takes the French?

                                                This can only happen if you think Nadal won't be anywhere as good as he was last year, and that Fed will be a lot better rather than a lot worse. Did Nadal even drop a set in the French last year?

                                                Unless you're saying Fed might be a good bet at +600 or something, then alright, but certainly he is not more likely to win than Nadal. I like you crazyl, but your tennis caping is sometimes really baffling. Still can't forgive you for laying -700 on Ivanovic.
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                                                • maniac0201
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                                                  • 09-16-08
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                                                  #25
                                                  The next major is the Aussie Open, not the French.
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                                                  • HeeeHAWWWW
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                                                    #26
                                                    The Oracle that is Pinnies says:

                                                    Le Fed +215
                                                    Muscles from Mallorca +425 (ridiculous overrating, he has no chance)
                                                    Muzza +476
                                                    Faker +525
                                                    General Jo +1700
                                                    Delpo +3000
                                                    Allserveandnothingelse +3500
                                                    Fat Dave +3500
                                                    Fixer +3600
                                                    Superman +6500
                                                    That Latvian Bloke that Nobody knows Well enough to give a good nickname +7400
                                                    Reeeeee-char +7500
                                                    Forehando +7500
                                                    The Baghdaddy +9300
                                                    WalkslikeaDuck +9700
                                                    RidiculouslyTall&UngainlyCroatNo1 (no, not Ivo) +10400
                                                    RidiculouslyTall&UngainlyCroatNo2 (no, not Ivo either )+10400
                                                    Beachboy +12000
                                                    Bigberd +12000
                                                    MadMarat +12300
                                                    TheWorstTopTenPlayerEver +14900
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                                                    • SBR Lou
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by mathdotcom
                                                      I like you crazyl, but your tennis caping is sometimes really baffling. Still can't forgive you for laying -700 on Ivanovic.
                                                      Yeah how ridiculous to bet on the then #1 tennis player in the world on a surface she's powerful enough to dominate on when she's on.
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                                                      • mathdotcom
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                                                        #28
                                                        She was #1 for what, a couple of weeks? This is not the old Federer we're talking about. You let your hots for her dictate your bet.
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                                                        • hoopster42
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                                                          • 02-12-08
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by daggerkobe
                                                          Fed is washed up.
                                                          you are really something. this is the exact thing you said in august when fed was losing meaningless tune-up matches for the us open, i told you then and i will say it again to get it through your thick skull,

                                                          FED WILL BE A FACTOR ON ANY GRAND SLAM ON CEMENT OR GRASS
                                                          THROUGH 2010

                                                          good luck seeing anyone stop him from beating pete's 14 slams

                                                          its not if, but when, fed will get his 15th slam
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                                                          • hoopster42
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by CrazyL
                                                            I think -500.
                                                            i agree that it should be a minus number, crazyl, but no so high

                                                            maybe -175

                                                            when will ppl understand (directed at some others in here)

                                                            FED ONLY BRINGS HIS BEST TO GRAND SLAMS, WHICH IS WHY LAST YEAR, AN OFF YR FOR HIM, HE MADE THE AUSSIE SEMIS,
                                                            FRENCH FINAL, WIMBLEDON FINAL, and won the US OPEN

                                                            in the aussie he had mono, but even w/out it probably woulda lost to surging joker-vich

                                                            in the french, he lost to the greatest clay-courter ever

                                                            in wimbledon, he did not lose, nadal won it. it was called the greatest match ever by many tennis historians

                                                            in the us open he strutted his stuff

                                                            bury this guy like you guys did in august and you will be made to look foolish (again)

                                                            this post brought to you by "hoopster42", one of a handful of ppl here at SBR who said last August that fed was NOT DONE when most posters buried him
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                                                            • Shark79
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                                                              • 11-19-07
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Shark79
                                                              Dont talk about the Patriots Loco L ....

                                                              I havent seen if theres any odds posted but I do see this hitting within the -200 -250.

                                                              Regardless of what his condition or mental game is on .... all squares know 2 or 3 names in tennis (NADAL - FED and RODDICK) therefore the books can easily win here.

                                                              I wouldn't be surprised to see a -300 on him
                                                              Anybody got odds on this?
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                                                              • meganie
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                                                                • 09-09-08
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                                                                #32
                                                                Let's see, if hoopster will dig out this thread with his "I told ya so"...

                                                                @Shark79
                                                                Do you mean Nadal for Roland Garros?
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                                                                • hoopster42
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by meganie
                                                                  Let's see, if hoopster will dig out this thread with his "I told ya so"...

                                                                  @Shark79
                                                                  Do you mean Nadal for Roland Garros?
                                                                  please make some predictions that come true or stfu!

                                                                  good day to you
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                                                                  • Wheell
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    I love Federer but I don't think that he has a 25% chance to win the Australian Open next year. Gun to head I would take Djoker.
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                                                                    • SBR Lou
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Wheell
                                                                      I love Federer but I don't think that he has a 25% chance to win the Australian Open next year. Gun to head I would take Djoker.
                                                                      What do you estimate his chances are at a RG win?
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