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  • BetaB
    SBR MVP
    • 05-07-10
    • 1082

    #1
    Question on Flat bet and chase match.
    Assuming one has 20% ROI and no Vig(even line) say hit rate of 60%.

    If you flat bet 200 bet you would expect 120 wins and 80 loses so +40units

    Now if you do 3 games chase, the chance of losing 3 straight would be =0.4*0.4*0.4 =6.4% and a lose would cost 1+2+4 = 7 units. Therefore, in 200 bets, one would expect to win 187 time and lose around 6.4x2 or 13times(round up) and bag 96 units.

    Now, here is the question. Since 1 units for chase and flat betting would obviously different and as i understand 1unit of flat bet should be = 7/3(average of 3 games chase) = 2.3333 units. But when i recalculate the profit flat betting =40x2.3333 = 93.33 which is less than 96... when i fully expect +96units. Can someone explain where i went wrong?

    Note: Obviously not rounding up would increase unit won when chasing.
  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #2
    No chase systems in the think tank!
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    • BetaB
      SBR MVP
      • 05-07-10
      • 1082

      #3
      Likewise assuming -110 odd.

      Flat bet 200 play ===> 120 wins +120
      80 loses -88
      net 32 units

      Chase: A risk 1.1 to win 1
      B risk (1.1+1)x1.1 =2.31
      C Risk (1+1.1+2.31)x1.1 = 4.851
      Total =1.1+2.31+4.851 = 7.961 ( 6.4% chance of losing)
      i.e. 200 bets
      Win 187.2 bets = +187.2
      Lose 12.8 bets = - 12.8x7.961 = 101.9
      Net = +85.3 units
      Average risk = 7.961/3 =2.653 units

      Equate to flat bet profit =32x2.653
      = 84.9 units


      So unless there is some error in the math, does this suggest i should just from a random 3 game chase instead of flat betting and adjust the unit accordingly?
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      • BetaB
        SBR MVP
        • 05-07-10
        • 1082

        #4
        Dude, i'm not proposing a system. I'm asking about the math behind it.
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        • Sam Odom
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-30-05
          • 58063

          #5
          Originally posted by Justin7

          No chase systems in the think tank!

          Only 'sharp' plays and Sharps allowed
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          • BetaB
            SBR MVP
            • 05-07-10
            • 1082

            #6
            Hopefully, i will get an answer. I mean, if you think about it a little more, using average bet size would favor flat betting as 60% of the time one would only risk 1 units 24% 2units and 16% 4 units.
            Average those 3 give .6x1+.24x2+.16x4 = 1.72 units only. Thus ROI when chasing would be much higher.
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