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It looks like Obamas stock is looking good now after the third debate. You can only see -300 by election day possibly.Comment -
Actually it demonstrates how weak of a candidate Romney is.
Obama has a serious problem with medicare funding, job growth, economic policy, AND--- yet, he is still the odds-on-favorite to win in 12 days.
The GOP has to hang their heads in shame if they can't win the Presidency under these circumstances.
They should have nominated Reagan's rotting corpse, he would at least delivered Ohio. He would have had a bitch of a time signing anything into law, but by 1988, Reagan didn't know what year it was, so not much would change.
Oh yeah, Romney's wednesday bounce on intrade is gone.
He's back at 36% on Intrade.Comment -
Bush won a second term. It's hard to beat a sitting president much less a sitting liberal. Romney's actually at 37.7% but if want to round down that;s good by me.
You guys got the favorite and I'm riding the dog. I don't mind Obama winning as long as he can't do any more damage. I'm pretty fine with a liberal president and a conservative congress. Obama has no plans this time around like a stimulus. Obama is no longer saying he is a moderate that will unite us and change washington. he is basically saying he will do nothing and I'm ok with that.Comment -
Silver lining when a lib wins is that we don't have to hear them whining all the time. And it only gets worse every time around. And they get to pretend they are Patriots. MTV flying the American flag, etc... Never when a repub is in office.
What y'all think of Florida? Reuters has BO winning no problem. 5 dimes has it BO at +190 still.
Reuters aint biased are they?Comment -
Intrade continues to lag, but as the time compresses, it should start to converge with more widely he;d odds at other markets and sportsbooks. Right now it's about 62.5% but should be in the 65-68% range. I think it'll be 70% by early next week and by election will be over 80% with few Romney backers still clinging to the prayer that everyone's got it all wrong.Comment -
John is flopping around like his boy!
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The best part of Obama winning is watching the GOP realize they've lost an entire generation, maybe more.
By 2016, the AHA will have no shot at ever being repealed. The GOP will have to dust off some 70 year old white guy again, and he'll say all the key phrases that the GOP have down pat ---"redistribution", "socialized medicine"--- and once again, Americans will say no to them.
Romney losing is more than just an incumbent being re-elected. It's going to set up a long run of Democratic presidents.Comment -
Obama is at 63.9% again at IntradeComment -
I told them in my 'Is Intrade safe?' Thread to sell Romney with him being somewhere around 4.7. No way he paid more than 4.1 when he bought, guaranteed moneyComment -
Did you liberals happen to catch the mid-term election results? =crickets-
Clinton won because a third party candidate got 20% of the vote. It's nearly impossible to beat a sitting president as history has proven.
Your boy will have one of the closes re elections in history if he wins at all. And if you thought the 2010 mid terms were nasty you aint seen nothing.Comment -
No help from me. After all the shit the Repubs are playing to keep this country down, it wouldn't surprise me
to see a Dem majority everywhere. I normally pick the best man for the job, not this time.Comment -
That's silly logic.
If the 2010 midterms meant or indicate as much as you say, why isn't the GOP winning the Senate? and even with re-districting, the GOP is not padding their house lead at all.
If the slide is toward GOP policies/platform, wouldn't you expect them to have control over the Senate?
You're acting as if 2010 has some sort of significance.
When in 2006, the exact same Democratic windfall happened, and it meant absolutely dick.Comment -
GOP still may win the senate. How about we wait for the election on that?
Well let's see the Dems controlled the Presidentcy, the House and the Senate prior to 2010 and you ask what was the significance of the landslide GOP gains in 2010?? Yikes. I think we need to move on to a less complicated issue.Comment -
John - Please just green out your Romney shares or most of them. Seriously.
I get stubborn about things too but it's silly to piss free money away. Cash most of them out and hold a few so you have something to cheer for. Romney's not going to win. Donate it to St Judes if you really don't want to see it back in your pocket but just don't piss it away because you want to will something to happen. You got him cheap and can sell him high. Abort the mission. You'd tell any of us to be prudent and do the same if the roles were reversed.Comment -
Not with two complete idiots that are running for Senate in Missouri and Indiana and it looks bad also. They should have put better candidates in there to win. I think the GOP blew it when they had the chance to do better than this. I think it will be 52-48 in the Senate on the side of the Democrats. It looks like they will lose a seat in Mass. also which would have put the GOP in control if they would have put better people to run for those seats than these idiots. You are talking about Indiana which is completely red now going for a Democrat because of stupid statements made by the GOP candidate. It is just amazing that these clowns would say such stupid things to give them the good chance to lose this year.Comment -
That's the mid terms which was two years ago and not now. It has gotten nasty big time in Ohio and Florida from what I have heard John. Obama probably will win and I sure hate to see you throwing your money away when you had to chance to come out ahead some recently if you would have sold the stock at 42 percent and now it has dropped I seen. Your right it is hard to beat the sitting President as we have seen before. If they would have put better candidates as the ones that run against these guys they would win too. They just keep electing idiots that is horrible about flip flopping and it reminds me of 2004 all over again.Comment -
There is no computed model available that should give you any reason to believe the GOP will win the Senate. None.
Brown is getting hammered in Mass.
McCaskill, Warren, and Murphy are all leading outside the margin of poll error. And, the Dems lead in 4 other toss-up states at, or near the margin of error. And, forgotten in this--- the Democrats had to defend far more seats than the GOP did, and the GOP isn't winning back control. Where is a GOP mandate in that?
You'll admit John, Obama is about as weak an incumbent as can be found, and yet, Americans still favor him that what Romney/Ryan offer.Comment -
And that's exactly what media outside of the US are saying. Not in a slam the Repubs kind of way... just more so as this is truly a dud election. People aren't engaged. Baby Bush had the scam in '00. Then he had the goodwill of being the guy who pulled the US through 9/11 and deservedly so. Once Kerry made that cheap shot about Cheney's daughter it was basically done. But Obama was very beatable and yet that video of Michelle in WI that dontknowhowtobet posted a few days ago is probably the best piece of campaigning material I've seen so far in this election And it's from a wife. Something's wrong with that. I remember people saying on here last year that they thought the Repubs were tanking this election. Send out a dud candidate and then go hard in 2016. At the time I thought they were just being tin foilers because we didn't even know who the candidate would be but maybe they were right. Just doesn't make sense to throw him in the ring when the fence sitters are the ones who need to be targeted.Comment -
In 1998 I entertained the thought of runnng in the 2002 presidential election as an Independant and declined after extensive counseling with my advisors.
May take a stab in 2016Comment -
I agree there may be some truth to that. Perhaps their own internal polling suggested that Obama was going to win no matter what, and let Romney be the one to try and win. If Romney won, fine. If he doesn't, let's get out the Marco Rubio's.
But the miscalculation in that in that is, Hillary Clinton. Warts and all, she's still a superstar in the party. She would be tough to beat for the GOP. Who are they going to run against her?Comment -
In 2008 the country was sick of Bush and elected Obama. But they did reelect Bush verrry similar to Obama. Obama was very destructive when he had a Dem house and senate but he'll never see that again just as Bush never did. Erie similar. The republicans will easily have another landside win in the midterm setting the table for a conservative president again, exactly like bush-obama. An Obama win really is a blessing in disguise because if Romney wins there will be no Republican landside win in the midterms.Comment -
You won't read a sharper post than this.
Wise words.
And I don't appreciate being responded to with "you liberals" and have Obama referred to as "your boy" just because I think the Republican party is a trainwreck. I'm a registered independent that's voted more red than blue in my 20 years at the polls.Comment -
John, you don't really believe that, do you? Have you looked at the Senate map for 2014? Where do you see the GOP making any progress? The 2014 Senate races are all democrat strongholds. The only vulnerable spots--- will be Al Franken and Kay Hagan.. Outside of that, your talking about really strong democrats. Jay Rockefeller, Mark Warner, Durbin, Pryor. I just don't see Illinois going GOP in 2014.Comment
