Anyone been able to successfully cut down # of bets they make?

t-wizzle · 10-21-12, 07:12 PM

It's tough but I hear you.

You just have to do it. No one is forcing you to make the bets. Don't worry about the late line movement so much. Pick out the games you like ahead of time, do some research, and then for the final step make sure the line movement concurs. The line doesn't even have to move in your favor as long as it makes sense.

WvGambler · 10-21-12, 07:12 PM

I don't understand why you have haters and stalkers.....No Coin never hurt anybody.

I have successfully cut back on my plays, but I feel like I'm the exception. I could truly quit gambling tomorrow if I really wanted to. I didn't have any action on the 4 o'clock games and I probably won't bet Monday night this week. The action can actually get boring to me sometimes.

MeatWad · 10-21-12, 07:27 PM

Most modern computer based gamblers have high volume, low edges. Odds market is too competitive, you have to squeeze out high volume low edge % to accumulate winnings. I can barely remember the last time I bet more than 2x my average unit size on 1 game.

paco · 10-21-12, 07:28 PM

Nope. Love the action of every game. We have a disease

acl123 · 10-21-12, 07:30 PM

Nope.I tried to quit the other day and got severely depressed.
I need action at all times

k13 · 10-21-12, 07:30 PM

This week a bit since I spent filling out 15 teams on fanduel and games mostly sucked.

Probably is too many parlays but I hit the small ones quite often.

Ralphie1412 · 10-21-12, 07:32 PM

Merella · 10-21-12, 07:36 PM

I bet points just for action. Real money for serious bets.

vyomguy · 10-21-12, 07:39 PM

look for value....if you are finding too many picks with value...then you are doing something wrong in evaluating.

No coincidences · 10-21-12, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by WvGambler

I don't understand why you have haters and stalkers.....No Coin never hurt anybody.

I have successfully cut back on my plays, but I feel like I'm the exception. I could truly quit gambling tomorrow if I really wanted to. I didn't have any action on the 4 o'clock games and I probably won't bet Monday night this week. The action can actually get boring to me sometimes.

Thanks WV.

I'd love to get to that point. I don't bet on sports I don't know -- so I guess I have that going for me -- but I always feel like I have to take on the board in the sports I follow. I love having a fresh set of lines in front of me.

No coincidences · 10-21-12, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by vyomguy

look for value....if you are finding too many picks with value...then you are doing something wrong in evaluating.

True.

I'm a big believer in lines being where they are for a reason (i.e., the guys setting the lines know a hell of a lot more about the game they're capping than you, me or anyone else). Maybe I should chuck that philosophy though. After seeing yesterday's college football card in retrospect, I would've thought trained monkeys were setting some of those lines.

tatddy · 10-21-12, 09:02 PM

Absolutely. I just started betting sports 2-3 years ago (swore I never would but a Vegas trip got the best of me). Used to go on big runs and then get hammered chasing plays on days the action/card was short. These days I'm pretty damn scrupulous. I make a few daily plays during baseball season but still not much more than 5-7 TOTAL a week. I made 3 NCAA plays and 3 NFL plays this week and that was a big card for me.

I try and tread lightly, as it's a hobby for me, and when I find an angle or have a good feel I hit it for a decent amount. SBR has been a great find. Can throw points around for fun and get action on days when I have no real plays.

MeatWad · 10-21-12, 09:07 PM

The lines are very tight and accurate, especially pinny's, it is a very competitive market. None of the spreads are far off, that is why alot of very successful gamblers and syndicates have to bet huge volume and squeeze out small edges.

No coincidences · 10-21-12, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by tatddy

Absolutely. I just started betting sports 2-3 years ago (swore I never would but a Vegas trip got the best of me). Used to go on big runs and then get hammered chasing plays on days the action/card was short. These days I'm pretty damn scrupulous. I make a few daily plays during baseball season but still not much more than 5-7 TOTAL a week. I made 3 NCAA plays and 3 NFL plays this week and that was a big card for me.

I try and tread lightly, as it's a hobby for me, and when I find an angle or have a good feel I hit it for a decent amount. SBR has been a great find. Can throw points around for fun and get action on days when I have no real plays.

It's a hobby for me too tat. I don't bet much on anything relatively speaking (disposable income, as I have a wife and kids). With that being said, a little over three years into gambling, I'm still going against everything I know (the more you bet, the more variance becomes your enemy, there are no angles or value that one person can find on 10-15 college football games a day, etc.), when the time comes to bet or lay off, I always make that next bet.

My biggest thing is not being able to let go of a lean on a game that winds up going exactly how I had it capped. Instead of just being OK with that and moving on, I still feel like I'll "miss something" if I'm not in on it. And let's be honest: the number of times any of us have a game capped to a T vs. the number of times we swing and miss doesn't feed logic into making sure we bet the board.

No coincidences · 10-21-12, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by MeatWad

The lines are very tight and accurate, especially pinny's, it is a very competitive market. None of the spreads are far off, that is why alot of very successful gamblers and syndicates have to bet huge volume and squeeze out small edges.

Well, plus there's no real advantage to blindly following a line anymore (RLM, etc.) That used to be a gold mine, but books have wised up and adjusted to the fact that we all have access to info. that used to be anything but "public knowledge" thanks to the Internet.

tatddy · 10-21-12, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

It's a hobby for me too tat. I don't bet much on anything relatively speaking (disposable income, as I have a wife and kids). With that being said, a little over three years into gambling, I'm still going against everything I know (the more you bet, the more variance becomes your enemy, there are no angles or value that one person can find on 10-15 college football games a day, etc.), when the time comes to bet or lay off, I always make that next bet.

My biggest thing is not being able to let go of a lean on a game that winds up going exactly how I had it capped. Instead of just being OK with that and moving on, I still feel like I'll "miss something" if I'm not in on it. And let's be honest: the number of times any of us have a game capped to a T vs. the number of times we swing and miss doesn't feed logic into making sure we bet the board.

The math people with advanced systems on here are betting 15+ games a day during college football. There qualitative part is effectively removed. So they get all the action they can handle and walk away with 55-70 percent winners on most weeks. I've seen their plays, it's crazy how many games they hit.

Not my style. I work, I have other hobbies, passions...no interest in betting teams where I can't name a player involved.

I hear you though it's tough to stay away on some days when you are sitting there staring at lines. Can make you crazy. I made a TON of live plays during the NBA playoffs. I had some down time and the chance to sit there and watch the flow of the games. I think I ended up 27-9 on live plays during for NBA. Which is sick considering I hate the NBA. But there was such amazing value in those live lines. Wish I could do the same with football but I work weekends so I'm not ever around enough to deal with it.

BigDeem5 · 10-21-12, 09:24 PM

If you aren't betting, you aren't trying.

No coincidences · 10-21-12, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by BigDeem5

If you aren't betting, you aren't trying.

You're like jjgold's parrot.

No coincidences · 10-21-12, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by tatddy

The math people with advanced systems on here are betting 15+ games a day during college football. There qualitative part is effectively removed. So they get all the action they can handle and walk away with 55-70 percent winners on most weeks. I've seen their plays, it's crazy how many games they hit.

Not my style. I work, I have other hobbies, passions...no interest in betting teams where I can't name a player involved.

I hear you though it's tough to stay away on some days when you are sitting there staring at lines. Can make you crazy. I made a TON of live plays during the NBA playoffs. I had some down time and the chance to sit there and watch the flow of the games. I think I ended up 27-9 on live plays during for NBA. Which is sick considering I hate the NBA. But there was such amazing value in those live lines. Wish I could do the same with football but I work weekends so I'm not ever around enough to deal with it.

I used to be heavily involved with fantasy sports and made a lot of money doing so. That was pretty much the only "hobby" I had related to sports. I traded it in for this. Not nearly as profitable. Swings are incredible. Why? Instant gratification. And yet, I'm rarely instantly gratified. I really can't make any sense out of it. There are days I wish I never started, but the days I go 5-0, man, I love it.

PAYTON20 · 10-21-12, 09:39 PM

Easy for me.

I didn't make one play in the NFL all day.

Waited for the game I liked and laid $630 on the SF Giants to win a nickel

paco · 10-21-12, 09:43 PM

Punt fest

borednaz · 10-21-12, 09:45 PM

No Coin, take your bank roll out of the books. Spend a month only betting in the SBR Book. You will get bored asap. But that's the key. Betting has to become boring. Once your there then you have to be able to answer yourself carefully & honestly. What do I need to earn. Betting is no different than investing, you expect a return.

If it's boring and non profitable you'll quit completely. But like I said you have to be honest with yourself. For me, my key is $400 a week. That would be the equivalent of a really lame part time job. By knowing this it allows me to be wiser in my plays. For instance in MLB I can bet a series say against the Astros to win $400. Sure I miss my daily action but I do make my end when I'm focused.

I picked $400 because like I said it's like a part time job. For me the idea of if times got rough and I could make that without having to go do that job it would well be worth the sacrifice of the big hit. The other end is if you start to fade from this you must have the discipline to pull your money and go cold turkey till your ready to return.

I use SBR for my degen plans or parlays to keep me from having the "urge" to go nuts. Like today I won a 3k parlay. Would of been a nice hit for sure on my bankroll but I didn't put $1 on it. Do I regret that? You bet your ass I do. But I would of regretted a lot more having to pull my roll because I lost track.

lakerboy · 10-21-12, 09:46 PM

I have become very disciplined. A few plays a week.

No coincidences · 10-21-12, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

I have become very disciplined. A few plays a week.

Yeah, but isn't that out of necessity?

I'm at a computer virtually all the time at my job. That's my biggest problem. If I worked outdoors, in a classroom, etc., I probably wouldn't gamble at all.

lakerboy · 10-21-12, 09:50 PM

No coin I just got bored with lookinh at lines all day and betting on everything

lesterdymond · 10-21-12, 09:52 PM

Stick to 2 books.

1 for straight bets only and your big bankroll

The second book keep a low amount in for your parlay and teazer cards.

Good thread here, always enjoyed your MLB threads bud.

No coincidences · 10-21-12, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

No coin I just got bored with lookinh at lines all day and betting on everything

Again, I hope I reach that point someday soon so that I can just become a spot bettor.

Thrill of the chase: what can I say.

No coincidences · 10-21-12, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by lesterdymond

Stick to 2 books.

1 for straight bets only and your big bankroll

The second book keep a low amount in for your parlay and teazer cards.

Good thread here, always enjoyed your MLB threads bud.

Thanks. I'm willing to try something to shake things up.

thetrinity · 10-21-12, 10:01 PM

i think lester has a decent idea for u there no coin.

also would suggest in the sports like ncaa basketball only concentrate on a few conferences, could really trim the card that way. hell do this for ncaa football as well.

lesterdymond · 10-21-12, 10:05 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Thanks. I'm willing to try something to shake things up.

You have more insight on a game then most here, we all can be our worst enemy sometimes and play the board. Let me know how it goes.

Guinser · 10-21-12, 10:14 PM

In theory you should be looking much harder into college than the NFL and not a similar number on each. Much tougher to accurately line 100+ games than 12-16 per week

Guinser · 10-21-12, 10:15 PM

But didn't we all get into this originally for the action?

Inkwell77 · 10-21-12, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by borednaz

No Coin, take your bank roll out of the books. Spend a month only betting in the SBR Book. You will get bored asap. But that's the key. Betting has to become boring. Once you're there then you have to be able to answer yourself carefully & honestly. What do I need to earn. Betting is no different than investing, you expect a return.

This is a sharp post. If you take a break for a month or two and do not bet anything but still handicap and are still active you learn a lot. I just got to the point where I was making bets where I had zero edge and when you look at a kelly calculator it starts to make sense that you can't win without an edge. Getting an edge is not easy.

Brutus84 · 10-21-12, 10:21 PM

No coin-I will give you 2-4 solid games Saturday and Sunday. You give me winners during basketball season and we will call it a day. I have been on fire all year long. GL