Is Oregon -360 a LOCK??

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  • PAYTON20
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-02-10
    • 5217

    #71
    Originally posted by Sol Diablo
    So Oregon is a "lock" to win but it will be a close game? Not sure I see the logic here Payton.
    Yea could easily see a backdoor cover here

    Maybe Oregon only wins by a TD or FG

    But lose? I don't see it
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    • edawg
      SBR MVP
      • 07-09-11
      • 2820

      #72
      Originally posted by paranoyd androyd
      the next big game chip kelly wins will be his first
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      • suicidekings
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 03-23-09
        • 9962

        #73
        ASU's S&P+ Rush Defense is ranked 84th in the country. Oregon's Offensive Rush S&P+ is ranked #5. ASU's seemingly good defensive stats are a product of having played the #106 schedule so far this season, with the 5 FBS teams faced currently owning an 11-22 record... Washington is actually a better defensive team than ASU and Oregon hung 52 on them 2 weeks ago, albeit at home.

        I don't know how anyone can back ASU here with Oregon coming off a bye and having a legit chance at contending for a National Title this year. They won't let their foot off the gas for one second, and ASU is not the team to stop them.

        Better ways to approach the game than laying the current -315. I would do a 6 point tease of Oregon -2 / Over 62 for (+105) at pinnacle.
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        • PAYTON20
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 02-02-10
          • 5217

          #74
          Originally posted by edawg
          When did Arizona St suddenly become a BIG game

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          • Monte
            SBR MVP
            • 08-21-10
            • 2056

            #75
            But you do realize that books expect (clueless) people to do that, and that Parlays almost always are bad bets?
            You say you get an "extra" 63 or so if you parlay Yanks with Oregon, well here is a nice newsflash:
            You also lose 130 + 100 if it doesn't work (because you would be up 100 with Yanks RL as standalone).
            Now compare a -360 ML with a gain of 63 or loss of 230, do you notice anything?
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            • zoo youk
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-23-11
              • 10701

              #76
              im wondering about the total and if both defenses will have good games considering they practice against same type of offense every day. or too much talent on O on both sides of the ball offenses have their way?
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              • MUHerd37
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-23-09
                • 12816

                #77
                I like the Oregon ML. Love it for a parlay. I don't see Arizona St. winning this game. Arizona St. has played absolutely nobody and lost to Missouri. Oregon has had just a little bit of a tougher schedule but has wiped out everyone they have played. Their closest game was a 17 point win against Fresno St.
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                • Monte
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-21-10
                  • 2056

                  #78
                  -288 at Pinny now btw...foolish to think that Zona cannot win here.
                  You are hurting your other bets with these stupid parlays, when will people wake up and stop feeding the books.
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                  • MUHerd37
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-23-09
                    • 12816

                    #79
                    Originally posted by Monte
                    -288 at Pinny now btw...foolish to think that Zona cannot win here.
                    You are hurting your other bets with these stupid parlays, when will people wake up and stop feeding the books.
                    I have been doing parlays forever. It works very well for me.
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                    • Trident
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-07-09
                      • 2362

                      #80
                      Originally posted by rm18
                      They were -16 vs. USC, and favored in most of those games listed too.
                      Forget how big that number was and how bad of a number it was at the time, was a big revenge game for USC after the Ducks kicked the shit out them the year before at USC, the other games they were small favorites all of them on the road or bowl games against ranked teams.
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                      • convick
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-03-11
                        • 3954

                        #81
                        Originally posted by Monte
                        -288 at Pinny now btw...foolish to think that Zona cannot win here.
                        You are hurting your other bets with these stupid parlays, when will people wake up and stop feeding the books.
                        Oregon already beat Zona, chief.

                        I think you meant ASU. Not sure why you care the way some stranger on the internet gambles their money away..
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                        • Monte
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-21-10
                          • 2056

                          #82
                          Yea why do i care, trying to educate people on this POS forum is like pearls before swine.
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                          • Lakers714
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-17-09
                            • 4671

                            #83
                            Originally posted by Urbanwildlife
                            I am not, as I am playing the spread at -9 and -10.
                            LMAO, U should've waited, could've got -7.5
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                            • Lakers714
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-17-09
                              • 4671

                              #84
                              I think I'm actually the only guy on this forum that isn't on ORE. It's really simple: it's hard to play a conference game on the road.
                              Both teams haven't played anybody yet so all those lopsided scores posters mention on here is pointless. Vegas could've easily set this line at -13 or -14 and 70% of u would've still jumped on it. It should really tell u something that they opened at -11 and now as low as -7.5

                              Don't think the Ducks r a LOCK to win SU or cover in this spot.
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                              • Urbanwildlife
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-06-11
                                • 5958

                                #85
                                and I feel the complete opposite! lol I feel I am and only a very few others are on the Mighty Ducks of Oregon!
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                                • Urbanwildlife
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-06-11
                                  • 5958

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by Lakers714
                                  LMAO, U should've waited, could've got -7.5
                                  Hopefully it will not matter!
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                                  • PAYTON20
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-02-10
                                    • 5217

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by Monte
                                    -288 at Pinny now btw...foolish to think that Zona cannot win here.
                                    You are hurting your other bets with these stupid parlays, when will people wake up and stop feeding the books.
                                    Lol. No one's feeding the books here smart guy.

                                    Right now I'm sitting on 260 to win almost 330 hinging on Oregon ML.

                                    If I want to I can easily hedge, put 100 on ASU ML +265, and be up 5 bucks if ASU wins and $230 if Oregon wins

                                    Or I can put 286 on ASU +8 to win 260... which would make me even if ASU won, + $44 if Oregon won and covered, or up $590 if Oregon won and ASU covered

                                    Hmm possible 600 profit with zero risk... AKA feeding the books
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                                    • Lakers714
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 06-17-09
                                      • 4671

                                      #88
                                      BOL on your ORE play Payton. I'll probably be on the other side.
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                                      • edawg
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-09-11
                                        • 2820

                                        #89
                                        Payton I think the point trying to be made is parlaying heavy ml chalk is not a good habit to get into as it often makes you money in the short term but gives the books a bigger edge over the player.
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                                        • Urbanwildlife
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-06-11
                                          • 5958

                                          #90
                                          Nice post edawg!

                                          @ Payton, do not take the information shared with you by edawg and Lakers714 in a bad way, take it as constructive criticism, as I sincerely believe they are only trying to be helpful, not shit talkers for lack of a better word.
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                                          • CanuckG
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-23-10
                                            • 21978

                                            #91
                                            Like under 68
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                                            • No coincidences
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-18-10
                                              • 76300

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by CanuckG
                                              Like under 68
                                              Either the under or ASU + the points will hit.

                                              The question is, which one?
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                                              • PAYTON20
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 02-02-10
                                                • 5217

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by edawg
                                                Payton I think the point trying to be made is parlaying heavy ml chalk is not a good habit to get into as it often makes you money in the short term but gives the books a bigger edge over the player.
                                                I understand this and agree... but if you do it every once in awhile and pick the right spots, it can work to your advantage. People get too bent out of shape about it on here sometimes

                                                I parlayed a straight bet with with a -360 ML that's not that ridiculous as far as chalk goes... and I didn't pull a Landers and lay 5 g's or whatever
                                                Originally posted by Urbanwildlife
                                                Nice post edawg!

                                                @ Payton, do not take the information shared with you by edawg and Lakers714 in a bad way, take it as constructive criticism, as I sincerely believe they are only trying to be helpful, not shit talkers for lack of a better word.
                                                No worries they're cool. I was just responding to the dude who called me a dumbass for posting my play (where the first leg won and I'm now in the drivers seat)
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                                                • Urbanwildlife
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-06-11
                                                  • 5958

                                                  #94
                                                  Nice and appropriate response!
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                                                  • MasterP10
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 08-19-10
                                                    • 1513

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                    Either the under or ASU + the points will hit.

                                                    The question is, which one?
                                                    Both will hit.
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                                                    • CappinTerp
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 11-26-09
                                                      • 9650

                                                      #96
                                                      No such thing as a lock.............esp. @ -360.!! I wish you luck......I am on ASU.
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                                                      • rumnblack
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 05-21-12
                                                        • 876

                                                        #97
                                                        Is life itself a lock?
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                                                        • McDabs
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 09-19-12
                                                          • 888

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by PAYTON20
                                                          Oregon ranked 3 this week behind Flordia

                                                          Chip Kelly is pissed

                                                          These Oregon boys aren't fukkin around
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                                                          • HOT WINGS
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-29-10
                                                            • 8055

                                                            #99
                                                            Anthing over a TD is good value on ASU. This will be a very tough game for Oregon. People making a play on the name taking Oregon IMO. ASU +8.5 & ML for me. GL either way
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                                                            • PAYTON20
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 02-02-10
                                                              • 5217

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by HOT WINGS
                                                              Anthing over a TD is good value on ASU. This will be a very tough game for Oregon. People making a play on the name taking Oregon IMO. ASU +8.5 & ML for me. GL either way
                                                              I would agree with you but I've watched this Oregon team play multiple times and they might be the most talented out of any of their teams in the recent past.

                                                              Marcus Mariota is their best duel-threat QB since Dennis Dixon
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                                                              • PAYTON20
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 02-02-10
                                                                • 5217

                                                                #101
                                                                'Sco Ducks

                                                                Quack Quack

                                                                Keep it relatively low scoring tho!
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                                                                • ChalkyDog
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                                                                  • 10-02-11
                                                                  • 9598

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by HOT WINGS
                                                                  Anthing over a TD is good value on ASU. This will be a very tough game for Oregon. People making a play on the name taking Oregon IMO. ASU +8.5 & ML for me. GL either way
                                                                  Oregon is the class of the PAC right now.

                                                                  ASU is upper tier middle of the road.

                                                                  Oregon
                                                                  USC
                                                                  Stanford
                                                                  UCLA
                                                                  Oregon St.
                                                                  ASU
                                                                  Cal
                                                                  Arizona
                                                                  Washington
                                                                  Utah
                                                                  WSU
                                                                  Colorado

                                                                  If people were only making a play on the name, it still makes sense. The line movement is suspect on the other hand.
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                                                                  • HOT WINGS
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-29-10
                                                                    • 8055

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Oregon reminds me alot of West Va with high scoring proflific offense and mediocre at best D. I think ASU defense will slow down Oregon enough to give ASU a shot. They might not win SU but really like ASU to hang tough here. Home doggie on a primetime thursday night game with nothing to lose. Almost everyone outside of the state of Arizona thinks Oregon is going to roll them this game. Guess will see.
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                                                                    • Lakers714
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 06-17-09
                                                                      • 4671

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Go Devils
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                                                                      • PAYTON20
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 02-02-10
                                                                        • 5217

                                                                        #105
                                                                        It's too hard to keep up with this team. They don't stop even on 4th down haha
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