List of casinos to stay away from

freebie · 07-06-06, 09:53 AM

stay away from online casinos period.

how and who do you see dealing the cards or spin the roulette on the other side of your monitor screen?

Mudcat · 07-06-06, 10:22 AM

I've never played at an on-line casino - never even looked at one - but it's good to circulate this kind of information for people who do.

doc · 07-06-06, 10:43 AM

This is a great post, thanks Damian.

Mud and Freebie hitting the online casinos for their bonuses are a must for anyone who has a bankroll of under 10-20K. They are also a must hit for anyone who likes money.

I will explain further if anyone is slightly interested.

ali_g · 07-06-06, 11:02 AM

realvegascasino is a fluke as well. owned and runned by robbie mcphail from bet33.com or ex book apex sportsbook

BrentCrude · 07-06-06, 11:57 AM

I have been playing online casinos for free for 7 years and I see trends.First off,there is no risk when you get a no deposit comp.All they are trying to do is to lure in shut ins with SSI government checks who get paid on the first of each month to play.hehe!There are some bad casinos with bad ''rigged''software that performs like crap and the casino is dumb where they take all the free money away right away without giving you a taste of winning.They don't even realize that if they can rig the software, to do it right before the conditions are met for a cashout to put the brakes on winning so it looks like you just had a string of bad luck.They defeat the purpose of getting people lured in to their casino with a comp by beating the beejesus out of them.Most of these free offers only let you play slots these days but it wasn't that way in the beginning.I actually think the software for most of the blackjack,craps and roulette is fair and that's why they won't let you play the comps on those games.They would give me a free $50 with a 10X playthrough and I would shoot the wad let it ride win or lose twice where if I won I would have $200.Then I would go to small ball playing $2 bets until my 10X playthrough rule requirement was met.I would usually end up with $180-$210.The software seemed fair.

I however would not trust any online casino with my own money making those same $50 and $100 bets because if I lost I would think I was cheated because a person never knows if it is rigged.

isetcap · 07-06-06, 12:24 PM

If you can't take a look at their bonus scheme and determine on your own that these "institutions" are scams then your brain probably stopped developing when you were 4 years old.

Perhaps you'd like a "50% No Playthrough Bonus"...
or how about a "350% 20X Rollover Bonus"

BuddyBear · 07-06-06, 01:45 PM

i hate to say this and I can say it from some past horrible experiences of mine with online casinos but anyone who plays with them is playing with fire and should expect to get burned....

applepicks · 07-06-06, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by BuddyBear

i hate to say this and I can say it from some past horrible experiences of mine with online casinos but anyone who plays with them is playing with fire and should expect to get burned....

Very well said BB. They are in business for a reason: To make money. People who play at them will eventually lose.

slacker00 · 07-06-06, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by applepicks

Very well said BB. They are in business for a reason: To make money. People who play at them will eventually lose.

Couldn't the same thing be said about sportsbooks?

doc · 07-06-06, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by applepicks

Very well said BB. They are in business for a reason: To make money. People who play at them will eventually lose.

Apple I love ya man and I am by no means wanting to get into a thing here as you and I are done with that hopefully....

This could not be further from the truth tho. It does take some discipline, and if you lack that then you should stay away for sure as if you do not soley play with beatable bonuses you will lose in the long run.

But if you are playing with bonuses at casinos where the terms are beatable then there is a ton of money to be made.

Take Intercasino for instance....

You deposit $100 then bonus you out $100 you have a balance of $200.

You have to roll the bonus over 25X equaling $2500 in wagers.

When you multiply that by the house edge of blackjack, around .50% you get the amount of the bonus you should lose.

$2500 * .5% = $12.50

You should take $87.50 of the bonus to the bank.

If you go on a bad run, which we all do, you can cashout your deposit and never lose more than a buck (the withdrawl fee).

I have over 30 like this one that are low risk and high return and would yield you around 5K.

Nope, playing casinos is not a sign of an underdevloped brain, but more of a person who likes money and is into leverage gambling.

Moraka · 07-06-06, 06:44 PM

Hey there folks,

Doc showed told me about this thread and at first my reaction was "it's probably just someone who didn't apply correct strategy or hit a bad run so got burnt." Easy to get put off like that.

I don't keep a solid record of exact profits (just withdraw from neteller as and when) but have been playing at online casino's for about 3, maybe 3 and a half years now. It's nicely profitable

.

I have even shown friends & family how to do it & where to go on numerous occassions.

There are some nasty ones out there, some nasty sportsbooks too I'd imagaine (I don't use any sportsbooks). It's fairly easy to identify them though, particuarly when you know other players. If I'm unsure about one i just type it's name in google and see what folk have been saying about it.

Never been unpaid from a casino and massively in profit here. But hey whatever works for ya then go with it

All the best to ya'll!

applepicks · 07-06-06, 06:56 PM

Doc,
I'm taking a shot at you or your place. I'm stating that they are in business to make money. If everyone busted bonuses there would be no casinos. Most gamblers in general "lack" discipline. So if they go to the honey pot once and get honey they'll go back again. Next time may not be so lucky. Now if I wanted to play BJ for several hours to make 200.00 I can do that and bet on sports. That is why we are at SBR to talk sports and offshore sportsbetting.
So if anyone wants to risk getting into the online casinos then so be it. I still only see one person here saying they are great while the rest do not agree. IN MY OPINION, in general, the players are at risk when using online casinos. I'm done with this thread.
I bet on sports and I don't play at online casinos.

imgv94 · 07-06-06, 07:02 PM

I have made over $500 combined from 5 different online casinos. It does take several hours to make a $100 or $200 but if your bankroll is less than $2000 then making a 5-10%
ROI is great. What bank can you get 5-10%? I needed
something after baseball pounded me in the ass.

imgv94

doc · 07-06-06, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by applepicks

Doc,
I'm taking a shot at you or your place. I'm stating that they are in business to make money. If everyone busted bonuses there would be no casinos. Most gamblers in general "lack" discipline. So if they go to the honey pot once and get honey they'll go back again. Next time may not be so lucky. Now if I wanted to play BJ for several hours to make 200.00 I can do that and bet on sports. That is why we are at SBR to talk sports and offshore sportsbetting.
So if anyone wants to risk getting into the online casinos then so be it. I still only see one person here saying they are great while the rest do not agree. IN MY OPINION, in general, the players are at risk when using online casinos. I'm done with this thread.
I bet on sports and I don't play at online casinos.

I can totally feel you here Apple and I appreciate it.

I love threads like this because it exposes some of the misconceptions about various means of betting offshore. Casinos or Sportsbooks the majority of the people who play at them lose.

Casinos do not differ at all from Sportsbooks in this manner.

That is why we all log onto forums everyday is to try and be a part of the few that win.

If you do not play casinos with their bonuses you will lose and at a lot of casinos even playing with the bonuses will get you in trouble.

But take Lake Palace for instance. You put in $250 and you have to play it one time over before they will give you $250.

But once you meet the 1X rollover of your deposit they will give you the $250 bonus. You bet it all on one hand of baccarat (the banker will win more than 50% of the time) and if you do it at all 5 casinos in the group you should hit at least twice.

Giving you $500 in profits with very little to no risk.

Once you are educated, if you are not a whale and could use a couple of grand, online casinos can make you a ton of money. Not just a hundred or two hundred bucks but 2-5 thousand inside of a month.

BSTPNM68 · 07-06-06, 10:57 PM

Why someone would play at an online casino that is not physical, unregulated and in another country is beyond me, even if you are playing at Pinnacle or WSEX.

doc · 07-07-06, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by BSTPNM68

Why someone would play at an online casino that is not physical, unregulated and in another country is beyond me, even if you are playing at Pinnacle or WSEX.

To make money. Who regulates Pinny?

isetcap · 07-07-06, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by BSTPNM68

Why someone would play at an online casino that is not physical, unregulated and in another country is beyond me, even if you are playing at Pinnacle or WSEX.

Yeah, I can't understand how anyone would take the hundreds of thousands of dollars they can make by properly applying a system that allows them to have an edge over the casino. That's just stupid.

doc · 07-07-06, 12:35 AM

Sorry isetcap... I fon't follow what you are saying...

I am not sure if it is pointed towards me, the fact of the matter is you can't make hundreds of thousands of dollars playing online casinos it would be impossible. You can make several thousand with a little work and the ability to read BUT I am not trying to push anything on anyone, just trying to open some peoples eyes to the money available.

It is just like scalping bonuses at Sportsbooks. Doesn't anyone here do that?

As far as them being unregulated and in a foreign country, I think we all work with unregulated foreign gambling institutions everyday.

BSTPNM68 · 07-07-06, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by doc

To make money. Who regulates Pinny?

Nobody regulates Pinnacle. The point is I could care less if a sportsbook has a strong reputation when it comes to its online casino.

isetcap · 07-07-06, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by doc

Sorry isetcap... I fon't follow what you are saying...

I am not sure if it is pointed towards me, the fact of the matter is you can't make hundreds of thousands of dollars playing online casinos it would be impossible. You can make several thousand with a little work and the ability to read BUT I am not trying to push anything on anyone, just trying to open some peoples eyes to the money available.

It is just like scalping bonuses at Sportsbooks. Doesn't anyone here do that?

As far as them being unregulated and in a foreign country, I think we all work with unregulated foreign gambling institutions everyday.

Not directed at you. It is in accordance with what you are saying. I have documented proof that it has been possible to make hundreds of thousands of dollars over the last 7 years exclusively playing at available online casinos. Simple as that.

BSTPNM68 · 07-07-06, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by isetcap

Yeah, I can't understand how anyone would take the hundreds of thousands of dollars they can make by properly applying a system that allows them to have an edge over the casino.

Now, exactly what system/systems are we talking about that are being used to defeat a negative expectation game/games? What game, outside poker, do you have a long-term, positive expectation?

isetcap · 07-07-06, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by BSTPNM68

Now, exactly what system/systems are we talking about that are being used to defeat a negative expectation game/games? What game, outside poker, do you have a long-term, positive expectation?

There are no games offered by the casinos (except Boss single deck blackjack) in which you have a long-term positive expectation without receiving compensation from the casinos themselves for playing the games they offer.

The system to defeat the negative expectation is a combination of how you play the games and the compensation received.

doc · 07-07-06, 03:05 PM

Isetcap, are you talking about using the bonuses or some other method?

You are correct (obviously) about no game except Boss Single Deck BJ having any chance of turning a profit outside of system play. And even system play is going to yield the same result as flat betting just on a different time line because of the negative expectation.

But compensation is available in the form of bonuses in which you can supplement your own funds in a casino and turn a profit a large percentage of the time.

When I play at online casinos I yield b/w a $20 and $50 an hour earnings rate.