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  • Emily_Haines
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-14-09
    • 15917

    #1
    Question on line services?
    Due you have to pay these books for access to the real time odds? The only thing you would have to do is build a link to the site. Why couldn't the average guy build a page for free to do the same thing? All the other stuff the offer ie (weather, injuries, steam plays, etc.) can easily be found or figured out.
  • acl123
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 03-17-11
    • 5896

    #2
    I'm sure it's probably expensive to get live line feeds
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      Very program intensive
      24 hr maintenance
      costly servers..lots of strain on them'

      Pay for it so much easier
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      • RonPaul2008
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 06-08-07
        • 6741

        #4
        Originally posted by Emily_Haines
        Due you have to pay these books for access to the real time odds? The only thing you would have to do is build a link to the site. Why couldn't the average guy build a page for free to do the same thing? All the other stuff the offer ie (weather, injuries, steam plays, etc.) can easily be found or figured out.
        Free - http://www.sbrforum.com/betting-odds/
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        • TheCentaur
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 06-28-11
          • 8108

          #5
          Originally posted by Emily_Haines
          Due you have to pay these books for access to the real time odds? The only thing you would have to do is build a link to the site. Why couldn't the average guy build a page for free to do the same thing? All the other stuff the offer ie (weather, injuries, steam plays, etc.) can easily be found or figured out.
          Ur free Showmetheodds account expired today too huh
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          • Emily_Haines
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 04-14-09
            • 15917

            #6
            Originally posted by TheCentaur
            Ur free Showmetheodds account expired today too huh
            Never found much value in these things. I cant believe people pay $500/mo for donbest. I can log on to pinnacle dynamic lines and get real time odds from the only book that matters for free.
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            • TheCentaur
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 06-28-11
              • 8108

              #7
              Bookmaker has volatile moves that are gone by the time they are reflected on sbrodds, but yeah not sure its worth paying for the service
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              • raiders72001
                Senior Member
                • 08-10-05
                • 11145

                #8
                Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                Due you have to pay these books for access to the real time odds? The only thing you would have to do is build a link to the site. Why couldn't the average guy build a page for free to do the same thing? All the other stuff the offer ie (weather, injuries, steam plays, etc.) can easily be found or figured out.
                I use Sports Options. Some of the things that I like:

                1. Injury reports. They get them faster than you can.
                2. Baseball lineups. I like to know if a guy is sitting and try to get bets in before the move.
                3. Weather - Although this is one thing that you can do as good if not better on your own.
                4. HTs. If you are going to play half times, you must have a service. HT lines are volatile. I think that the greatest ROI can be found betting halftimes.
                5. Steam
                6. Can check the odds of many books at the same time. You get a great idea of the books that you should add to your arsenal. This is very important.
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                • Br0nxer
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-25-11
                  • 13665

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                  Never found much value in these things. I cant believe people pay $500/mo for donbest. I can log on to pinnacle dynamic lines and get real time odds from the only book that matters for free.

                  Fastest feed on SBR odds is pinnacle

                  At times Pinny on SBR odds moves before it moves on dynamic lines

                  Dynamic is every 30 seconds
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                  • Emily_Haines
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 04-14-09
                    • 15917

                    #10
                    Originally posted by raiders72001
                    4. HTs. If you are going to play half times, you must have a service. HT lines are volatile. I think that the greatest ROI can be found betting halftimes.
                    90% of the time Greek puts out the half times first and usually Pinny follows
                    I have a little time before the others follow and many times I can get best number by firing into Greek early
                    I keep my Greek and Pinny accounts open and bet accordingly

                    By the time you see the number on the screen and go to shop and bet number is gone
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                    • raiders72001
                      Senior Member
                      • 08-10-05
                      • 11145

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Br0nxer
                      Fastest feed on SBR odds is pinnacle

                      At times Pinny on SBR odds moves before it moves on dynamic lines

                      Dynamic is every 30 seconds
                      not true
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                      • Br0nxer
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-25-11
                        • 13665

                        #12
                        Originally posted by raiders72001
                        not true

                        What is not true

                        the every 30 seconds?

                        at times yes it does move faster

                        Was watching it all day Saturday and line moves late in the South carolina-Lsu game were being reflected on SBR odds before they were moving on dynamic

                        Not all the time faster but sometimes
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                        • Monte
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-21-10
                          • 2056

                          #13
                          Refresh manually then at times where you really care about it, SBR odds is totally worthless if you can look at Pinny.
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                          • raiders72001
                            Senior Member
                            • 08-10-05
                            • 11145

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Br0nxer
                            What is not true

                            the every 30 seconds?

                            at times yes it does move faster

                            Was watching it all day Saturday and line moves late in the South carolina-Lsu game were being reflected on SBR odds before they were moving on dynamic

                            Not all the time faster but sometimes
                            Dynamic is live. When I checked SBR odds long ago, it missed many of the moves and was delayed at least 30 seconds. I think that can cause some of the confusion. I have to admit that I haven't run SBR odds back to back with Pinny or a line service in a long time.
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                            • Bluehorseshoe
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-13-06
                              • 15004

                              #15
                              Originally posted by raiders72001
                              Dynamic is live. When I checked SBR odds long ago, it missed many of the moves and was delayed at least 30 seconds. I think that can cause some of the confusion. I have to admit that I haven't run SBR odds back to back with Pinny or a line service in a long time.
                              What happens is, SBR odds will have the line move in it's history, but the line move won't show up on the screen.
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                              • Sdotbold
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-24-09
                                • 1444

                                #16
                                What is the delay on sbr odds? Is it different for each book? Sorry if this seems to be a dumb question.
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                                • Smoke
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-09-09
                                  • 48111

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Br0nxer


                                  Fastest feed on SBR odds is pinnacle

                                  At times Pinny on SBR odds moves before it moves on dynamic lines

                                  Dynamic is every 30 seconds
                                  not true
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                                  • raiders72001
                                    Senior Member
                                    • 08-10-05
                                    • 11145

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Sdotbold
                                    What is the delay on sbr odds? Is it different for each book? Sorry if this seems to be a dumb question.
                                    varied vastly from book to book when I checked.
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                                    • Emily_Haines
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 04-14-09
                                      • 15917

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Sdotbold
                                      What is the delay on sbr odds? Is it different for each book? Sorry if this seems to be a dumb question.
                                      That's why don best can charge $500 a month for there line service which has real time odds. All the free ones have the odds delayed. When you see a line change on a free site it actually happened 20-30 seconds ago.
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                                      • Scooter
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-15-07
                                        • 1159

                                        #20
                                        I have raiders on Ignore, which is great, but someone reproduced his quote about Pinnacle -

                                        Originally Posted by raiders72001"Dynamic is live."


                                        As usual, he is wrong. Dynamic is not live. As Bronxer stated, dynamic is every 30 seconds.

                                        Hopefully, everyone knows to ignore raiders - he is a troll and constantly interjects himself into threads and gives opinions he is not qualified to give.
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                                        • Bigbill365
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 06-22-12
                                          • 4572

                                          #21
                                          theres a place called lineZIG in detroit its in a basement in a run down building that serves alot of these sports books
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                                          • raiders72001
                                            Senior Member
                                            • 08-10-05
                                            • 11145

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Scooter
                                            I have raiders on Ignore, which is great, but someone reproduced his quote about Pinnacle -

                                            Originally Posted by raiders72001"Dynamic is live."


                                            As usual, he is wrong. Dynamic is not live. As Bronxer stated, dynamic is every 30 seconds.

                                            Hopefully, everyone knows to ignore raiders - he is a troll and constantly interjects himself into threads and gives opinions he is not qualified to give.
                                            please stop with misinformation

                                            Pinnacle took sports betting 101 a step further by offering dynamic lines, which lets players watch the odds move live with color changes without the need to refresh the browser.
                                            http://www.sportsbookreview.com/spor...nnacle-sports/
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                                            • CanuckG
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-23-10
                                              • 21978

                                              #23
                                              Emily who lays 1.6 million on the regular should know this
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                                              • Br0nxer
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 03-25-11
                                                • 13665

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by raiders72001
                                                it is live but it only refreshes every 30 seconds

                                                meaning the line could change but it will not show it changed until the next refresh
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                                                • CanuckG
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 12-23-10
                                                  • 21978

                                                  #25
                                                  Auto-refresh: ON
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                                                  • raiders72001
                                                    Senior Member
                                                    • 08-10-05
                                                    • 11145

                                                    #26
                                                    I've run pinny dynamic, SO and DB at the same time back to back to check delays. Dynamic is live and there is a slight difference in book speed between SO and DB. With some books DB was faster and at other books SO was faster but we aren't even talking a second. I posted a report about it across the street.
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                                                    • Scooter
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-15-07
                                                      • 1159

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Br0nxer
                                                      it is live but it only refreshes every 30 seconds

                                                      meaning the line could change but it will not show it changed until the next refresh
                                                      Correct.

                                                      I.e., dynamic/"live" is not live, it is an every 30 second refresh.

                                                      raiders obviously doesn't have an account.

                                                      Just a time wasting ignorant attention whore.
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                                                      • raiders72001
                                                        Senior Member
                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                        • 11145

                                                        #28
                                                        scooter- I don't want to waste more time arguing about it. Let's make a $500 bet, post up? Reagan holds money?

                                                        flux[flʌks]n1. a flow or discharge

                                                        2. continuous change; instability
                                                        Definition, Synonyms, Translations of flux by The Free Dictionary
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                                                        • tuckman
                                                          SBR Hustler
                                                          • 11-17-07
                                                          • 79

                                                          #29
                                                          If you don't want to fork up the $300 for SO or $500 for DB, I would recommend SO mobile (works great on my IPad), I think it's $39 a month and they come up just as fast as long as your connected well and no real delay
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