Derek Jeter vs. Miguel Cabrera Now We'll See Who's The Real MVP

[PhillyFlyers]

Lol this seems like a horrible logical fallacy... Sure those guys are Doing good... But they might be juicing... So Jeter is better

Because he's not cheating in any way.

Also, because he is the vastly superior player over the long haul while remaining natural.

[face]

jeter leads the league in hits this year but they are singles and he doesn't steal enough

[PhillyFlyers]

Any more bullshit excuses?

[SportsPedagogy]

Because he's not cheating in any way.

Also, because he is the vastly superior player over the long haul while remaining natural.

Lol come on, honestly , how do we know ? As you have stated, a lot of guys turned out to be cheating when we didn't think they were. It would explain how his body has lasted so long.

[SportsPedagogy]

Any more bullshit excuses?

He didn't win triple crown ...

[TommieGunshot]

As for Cabrera winning the triple crown......did he do so legitimately?

NO ONE FUKKIN KNOWS.

Is he on some form of steroids or other performance enhancing drugs?

What we do know for sure is Cabrera's drug tests are as clean as Jeter's

Jeter is one of the three best players is history among shortstops. George Brett is among the very best third baseman in history. That doesn't mean they are among the very best players in 2012. It's a credit to Jeter that he remains a solid contributor after nearly 20 years. It is a major discredit to him to think that what he has done in 2012 is anywhere near what he was doing during his very best seasons

[JD426]

Yeah, because Miguel Cabrera and Mike Trout are first ballot hall of famers like Jeter, right?

WTF does being a hall of famer have to do with being the MVP this year? Pujols is a first ballot HOFer, does that mean him and Jeter should be co-MVPs?

And yes, Miguel will be in the HOF on the first ballot so even your fu**ed up retard logic is wrong.

[stevenash]

yeah we can get a real good view at which player's poor defense will cost his team the least.

Miggy is more of a liabilty at third then Jeter at short.
Don't equate limited range with poor defense.
Jeter is one of the smartest defensive players in the game.
How many dopey errors has he made at short?

[Mikeyanks23]

Save this fukkin bullshit for someone who doesn't know any better.

We heard the same exact shit about Sammy Sosa and Mark McGwire before they got found out about.

No fukkin way was A-Rod on roids. He was a natural. Then he was.

No fukkin way a guy like Melky Cabrera was on roids. Then he was.

Spare me your fukkin bullshit.

everyone and their mother knew mcgwire and sosa were juicing

Same me your fukkin bullshit

take jeters cokk out of your mouth and look at the numbers

[Mikeyanks23]

How many times did ichiro have over 200 hits?

How many MVPS did he win?

Theres more to being the most VALUABLE player than hits
he only scored 99 runs with 58 rbis

you are seriously fukkin clueless

NO WAY JETER SHOULD BE MVP
and thats coming from a HUGE yankee homer

[stevenash]

jeter leads the league in hits this year but they are singles and he doesn't steal enough

32 doubles and 15 homers Jeter had.
Highest slugging percentage of all quailified short stops in the league.

Sortable Batting
RK	PLAYER	TEAM	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	WAR
1	Derek Jeter	NYY	683	99	216	32	0	15	58	9	4	45	90	.316	.362	.429	.791	2.1
2	Alcides Escobar	KC	605	68	177	30	7	5	52	35	5	27	100	.293	.331	.390	.721	3.2
3	Erick Aybar	LAA	517	67	150	31	5	8	45	20	4	22	61	.290	.324	.416	.740	4.0
4	Elvis Andrus	TEX	629	85	180	31	9	3	62	21	10	57	96	.286	.349	.378	.727	3.4
5	Asdrubal Cabrera	CLE	555	70	150	35	1	16	68	9	4	52	99	.270	.338	.423	.762	3.0
6	Alexei Ramirez	CHW	593	59	157	24	4	9	73	20	7	16	77	.265	.287	.364	.651	2.2
7	Yunel Escobar	TOR	558	58	141	22	1	9	51	5	1	35	70	.253	.300	.344	.644	2.4
8	Mike Aviles	BOS	512	57	128	28	0	13	60	14	6	23	77	.250	.282	.381	.663	2.0
9	Jhonny Peralta	DET	531	58	127	32	3	13	63	1	2	49	105	.239	.305	.384	.689	0.9
10	J.J. Hardy	BAL	663	85	158	30	2	22	68	0	0	38	106	.238	.282	.389	.671	3.0

[Mikeyanks23]

Nash are you agreeing that he should be MVP?

[Jaug]

Jeter has been good so far in playoffs.

[stevenash]

Nash are you agreeing that he should be MVP?

This year??????
Miggy
Trout
Beltre
everybody else

[Mikeyanks23]

WAR Position Players s c a p y
1.	Trout <small style="vertical-align: inherit; ">(LAA)</small>	10.7
2.	Cano <small style="vertical-align: inherit; ">(NYY)</small>	8.2
3.	Posey <small style="vertical-align: inherit; ">(SFG)</small>	7.2
4.	McCutchen <small style="vertical-align: inherit; ">(PIT)</small>	7.0
5.	Cabrera <small style="vertical-align: inherit; ">(DET)</small>	6.9
6.	Braun <small style="vertical-align: inherit; ">(MIL)</small>	6.8
7.	Molina <small style="vertical-align: inherit; ">(STL)</small>	6.7
	Wright <small style="vertical-align: inherit; ">(NYM)</small>	6.7
	Beltre <small style="vertical-align: inherit; ">(TEX)</small>	6.7
10.	Gordon <small style="vertical-align: inherit; ">(KCR) </small>

JETERs WAR is 2.1

[Mikeyanks23]

This year??????
Miggy
Trout
Beltre
everybody else

Ok just making sure

No way JETER ranks above
Miggy
trout
Beltre
Fielder
Cano
Mauer
ETC
ETC

[quantifyTHAT]

Love this thread. Respect. I think Miguel had a historical season but now do it when all the chips are in the middle. The boys are taking it all this year... believe it...

[quantifyTHAT]

classic 6 4 3... feel like i've seen that before... Jeter isn't arguably the greatest baseball player of all time or anything...

[stevenash]

classic 6 4 3... feel like i've seen that before... Jeter isn't arguably the greatest baseball player of all time or anything...

See that layout Jeter just made for that 6-3 putout.

[antifoil]

then he failed to get the next ball hit up the middle.

[Andy117]

Yeah, because Miguel Cabrera and Mike Trout are first ballot hall of famers like Jeter, right?

Actually Cabrera is well on his way to first ballot status. And (big) if Trout plays for an extended time like his first year he will be too.

[Andy117]

That's not the point of the thread though.

How many fukkin times is Jeter going to get passed over in favor of lesser players?

As for Cabrera winning the triple crown......did he do so legitimately?

NO ONE FUKKIN KNOWS.

Is he on some form of steroids or other performance enhancing drugs?

I would say it's very likely.

Same for Trout.

With Jeter there is no doubt.

And he's superior to all of them without ever having using PEDs or steroids.

How many others can honestly say the same and have reached Jeter's level?

Zero.

Why is there no doubt that Jeter has used? No one would have ever thought Pettitte would cheat and he did.

[paco]

jeter

ur a dumb penetrate to even compare the 2

[Robber]

Jeter one hit in the whole
Alcs

[vaas187]

well, we all know it's miggy now....

jeter is a gem though, one of my fav players and i hate the yanks.

[rickbo528]

Guess we won't find out who is more valuable in this series now, will we? Jeter with a broken ankle and done. Sorry about your luck Yankees!!!! Now you get to deal with a crippling injury like other teams have had to.

[Mikeyanks23]

Guess we won't find out who is more valuable in this series now, will we? Jeter with a broken ankle and done. Sorry about your luck Yankees!!!! Now you get to deal with a crippling injury like other teams have had to.

NOW?

so all the injuries they over came in the regular season didnt count?

Pettitte
AROD
CC
RIVERA
Gardner

[ermzzy]

americans are bad people