Brady and the Pats 6.5 favorite at home vs Manning

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  • Blissit02
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-16-11
    • 710

    #1
    Brady and the Pats 6.5 favorite at home vs Manning
    I hate Manning with a passion but I respect him 110%. I usually don't bet on my team, to many emotions already flowing....But I think Brady and Co finally found their grove in the 2nd half vs the Bills (whose defense is just as good as Denvers) What side of the fence are you on?
  • ermzzy
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 09-22-12
    • 863

    #2
    denver +6.5 if it moves up to +7 alot of ppl will be on it
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    • slacker00
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      • 10-06-05
      • 12262

      #3
      Brady owns Peyton over the years. Now Peyton is in his twilight with lesser weapons, I don't see an improvement.

      Brady torched Denver's defense for 6 TDs last year in the playoffs (Pats 45 Broncs 10), Brady cuts this team up.



      At the very least, toss the Pats in some teasers, the numbers are right.
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      • k13
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        • 07-16-10
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        #4
        Pats win.
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        • Blissit02
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          • 07-16-11
          • 710

          #5
          Slacker, but the Broncos will score a lot more than 10 this go around!
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          • slacker00
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            • 10-06-05
            • 12262

            #6
            Originally posted by Blissit02
            Slacker, but the Broncos will score a lot more than 10 this go around!
            Will they score more than 45?
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            • Nick_U
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              • 08-26-11
              • 284

              #7
              LOVE the over in this one
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              • vaas187
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                • 03-01-12
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                #8
                over is a garo.... i have 1500 on it alone parlayed in multiple bets. 500 su though.
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                • ibetbig
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                  • 09-28-12
                  • 14

                  #9
                  broncos win. notsureifsrs at that guy who said brady owns peyton do you even watch nfl?
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                  • slacker00
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                    • 10-06-05
                    • 12262

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ibetbig
                    broncos win. notsureifsrs at that guy who said brady owns peyton do you even watch nfl?
                    They've played 12 times. Brady 8 wins Peyton 4 wins.
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                    • Dux90
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                      • 08-22-12
                      • 523

                      #11
                      Originally posted by slacker00
                      They've played 12 times. Brady 8 wins Peyton 4 wins.
                      Brady is also 100 games over .500 career Peyton 50 over .500 and Peyton played in a dome most of career. Just saying
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                      • slacker00
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                        • 10-06-05
                        • 12262

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dux90
                        Brady is also 100 games over .500 career Peyton 50 over .500 and Peyton played in a dome most of career. Just saying
                        No doubt. People get fooled by Peyton's great fantasy numbers playing in the dome, a virtual pinball arcade for QBs.
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                        • trevlyn1983
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                          • 05-25-09
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                          #13
                          Peyton Never really had a decent team either .
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                          • Mr Handicapable
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                            • 09-23-07
                            • 6067

                            #14
                            Peyton is 4-8 against Brady but the Colts allowed 29.6 ppg to the Pats. Eli is clutch because the Giants held Brady to 14 and 17 points in the SB. Indy never held Brady under 20. Peyton is a choker because his defense can't hold up? Brady has always had the better team with a better defense and a better coach.
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                            • ThaTopMoron
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                              • 04-30-10
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                              #15
                              Peyton owned Brady in 2005 AND 2006... IN New England

                              then 2006 playoffs, some sort of 38 pt, 32 point 2nd half... 18 pt comeback victory, directed a masterful game winning drive

                              2007 Colts were up by 10 vs the Pats and injuries across the board in that game... and the defense got shredded in the 4th and blew the game to the Pats... that's ok, if not for that... would of never had the 18-0 Pats get beat in the Super Bowl

                              2009, Oh... just a 17 pt 4th quarter comeback by Peyton Manning. Game winning TD throw zipped to Wayne with 10 seconds left.. 35-34... also known as the "4th and 2" game.

                              2010... Pats at home killing the Colts D again but almost let Manning direct his team to another 17 pt 4th quarter comeback but lucked out with 1 bad pass late in the game, saving their ass from complete embarrassment in back 2 back years

                              Only time Brady beat Manning was when they played twice a year in 2001 before the league re-arranged the divisions and that 2001 Colts team went 6-10 no playoffs. Also won in playoffs in 03 and 04 but that was when the Pats were the Super Bowl contender and the Colts were just becoming a playoff team under Dungy but still without a defense to win in the playoffs.

                              8-4 is a joke

                              if anything, this game will see at least 52 pts... over is close to a lock, either side at +14 is a lock, so tease up the Broncos and go to sleep
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                              • Goat Milk
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by ThaTopMoron
                                Peyton owned Brady in 2005 AND 2006... IN New England

                                then 2006 playoffs, some sort of 38 pt, 32 point 2nd half... 18 pt comeback victory, directed a masterful game winning drive

                                2007 Colts were up by 10 vs the Pats and injuries across the board in that game... and the defense got shredded in the 4th and blew the game to the Pats... that's ok, if not for that... would of never had the 18-0 Pats get beat in the Super Bowl

                                2009, Oh... just a 17 pt 4th quarter comeback by Peyton Manning. Game winning TD throw zipped to Wayne with 10 seconds left.. 35-34... also known as the "4th and 2" game.

                                2010... Pats at home killing the Colts D again but almost let Manning direct his team to another 17 pt 4th quarter comeback but lucked out with 1 bad pass late in the game, saving their ass from complete embarrassment in back 2 back years

                                Only time Brady beat Manning was when they played twice a year in 2001 before the league re-arranged the divisions and that 2001 Colts team went 6-10 no playoffs. Also won in playoffs in 03 and 04 but that was when the Pats were the Super Bowl contender and the Colts were just becoming a playoff team under Dungy but still without a defense to win in the playoffs.

                                8-4 is a joke

                                if anything, this game will see at least 52 pts... over is close to a lock, either side at +14 is a lock, so tease up the Broncos and go to sleep
                                Why do you mention Manning orchestrated GW drives verse Brady back in like 05 06 and then when Brady mastered perfect 4th quarters to come back from like 2 and 3 tds against Manning on a couple occasions your statement is "defense got shredded and blew the game to the pats."

                                Indy ALWAYS had a solid defense in the mid and late 2000s. Their defense got shredded because Brady shredded them. They blew those games because Brady picked them apart, not because they fell apart....
                                Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                • Goat Milk
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                                  • 03-24-10
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
                                  Peyton is 4-8 against Brady but the Colts allowed 29.6 ppg to the Pats. Eli is clutch because the Giants held Brady to 14 and 17 points in the SB. Indy never held Brady under 20. Peyton is a choker because his defense can't hold up? Brady has always had the better team with a better defense and a better coach.
                                  Manning always had a better team. Always.

                                  He had one of the greatest receivers ever all through his prime. Look what Brady did when he got one of the greatest ever for 1 year only. Shattered every QB record known to man.

                                  Brady had puppets for those superbowl victories on the offense side of the ball. Take a look at his offensive roster. Sure, the D was one of the best in the league. His offensive talent was a joke and always was until a few years ago when Welker came into the picture.
                                  Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                  • ThaTopMoron
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                                    • 04-30-10
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                    Why do you mention Manning orchestrated GW drives verse Brady back in like 05 06 and then when Brady mastered perfect 4th quarters to come back from like 2 and 3 tds against Manning on a couple occasions your statement is "defense got shredded and blew the game to the pats."

                                    Indy ALWAYS had a solid defense in the mid and late 2000s. Their defense got shredded because Brady shredded them. They blew those games because Brady picked them apart, not because they fell apart....
                                    I'm a Colts fan

                                    RIP true Manning-Brady rivalry ... i don't care who wins denver-new england tomorrow, probably going to tease up Denver and tease down the over and sit back and watch the fireworks on the field!
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                                    • ThaTopMoron
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                      Manning always had a better team. Always.

                                      He had one of the greatest receivers ever all through his prime. Look what Brady did when he got one of the greatest ever for 1 year only. Shattered every QB record known to man.

                                      Brady had puppets for those superbowl victories on the offense side of the ball. Take a look at his offensive roster. Sure, the D was one of the best in the league. His offensive talent was a joke and always was until a few years ago when Welker came into the picture.
                                      x1,000

                                      what you are saying is that Manning had the better team, yet... Brady got the TEAM EFFORT to win in the playoffs in the first half of 2000s... and Colts weren't even a team to be reckoned with until 2004... 03 playoff run was not expected. but ever since the Pats slowly changed with offensive philosophy as they aged and regressed on defense they haven't been able to win that final big game even though Brady was a better QB and had a better offense around him...

                                      funny? no. that's how football works

                                      only time the Colts D ever showed up for the playoffs was in 06 excluding the AFCCG vs Patriots and in 09 they showed up for the Ravens and in the 2nd half for the Jets.
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                                      • PlatinumBerg
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                                        • 03-01-10
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                                        #20
                                        I like NE and the OVER here.
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                                        • MUHerd37
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                                          • 10-23-09
                                          • 12816

                                          #21
                                          I'm on Pats. You know that Brady will be up for this one. Never wants to lose to Manning.
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                                          • slacker00
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                                            • 10-06-05
                                            • 12262

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
                                            Peyton is 4-8 against Brady but the Colts allowed 29.6 ppg to the Pats. Eli is clutch because the Giants held Brady to 14 and 17 points in the SB. Indy never held Brady under 20. Peyton is a choker because his defense can't hold up? Brady has always had the better team with a better defense and a better coach.
                                            You mean Brady put up 29.6 ppg? That's the point I'm trying to make. Sheesh.

                                            Forget about the Giants D and the Super Bowls, this is Broncos who gave up 41 and 45 to Brady less than a year ago.
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                                            • Bbr
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                                              • 08-17-10
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                                              #23
                                              Pats have their running game going and we all know about bradys arm. Pats win and cover
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                                              • stevenash
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                                                • 01-17-11
                                                • 65625

                                                #24
                                                Stop it with the Brady owns Manning statements.

                                                You can say Brady's teams have beaten Manning's teams, 66.67 percent of the time, but football isn't a boxing match, it's not a one on one game.

                                                Brady and Manning are never on the same field together, neither one rushes the quarterback, neither one defends the pass.

                                                Patriots -6.5 is a razor sharp line, Denver actually has a good defense, top ten rush defense team in the NFL, pretty much a top ten defensive unit.
                                                If candy and nuts........... you guys know the rest, but if Denver's defense plays the way they should, and Peyton dusts off what rust remains, they could steal this one

                                                Pats should win, cover is another story.
                                                Don't want any part of this one, don't need action on this game to sit and watch it as a fan of the game too.
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                                                • stevenash
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                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                  • 65625

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Blissit02
                                                  But I think Brady and Co finally found their grove in the 2nd half vs the Bills (whose defense is just as good as Denvers) What side of the fence are you on?
                                                  Huh?
                                                  On what planet are the Bills as good on defense as the Broncos are.
                                                  Buffalo is almost dead last in rush defense, they give up 137 yards a game on the ground. Denver, 87 yards a game.
                                                  Buffalo gives up 270 yars a game in passing, Denver, 220.
                                                  Denver defense gives up 21 points a game, Bills, 32

                                                  Denver is better on defense in every aspect than Buffalo.

                                                  Stop it
                                                  (and not a fan of either team, not even close)
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                                                  • Mr Handicapable
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                                                    • 09-23-07
                                                    • 6067

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
                                                    Peyton is 4-8 against Brady but the Colts allowed 29.6 ppg to the Pats. Eli is clutch because the Giants held Brady to 14 and 17 points in the SB. Indy never held Brady under 20. Peyton is a choker because his defense can't hold up? Brady has always had the better team with a better defense and a better coach.



                                                    If you watched todays game...I rest my case. Manning throws for 345 and 3 tds and is never really in the game due to teammates poor defense and fumbles plus the 4th down drop by McGeehee. Brady is a machine but he always holds all the cards. Its like playing 7 card stud but you only get 6 cards.
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                                                    • stevenash
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                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 65625

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
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                                                      Brady is a machine but he always holds all the cards.
                                                      Have to admit, Brady is one of the best system QB's that ever played the game.
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                                                      • You mad bro
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                                                        • 01-15-12
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                                        Have to admit, Brady is one of the best system QB's that ever played the game.
                                                        side note to ur info up there ... i think the bills gave up 1200 yards in 2 games or close to 1200 ... i could be wrong ... horrible with numbers
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                                                        • Dux90
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                                                          • 08-22-12
                                                          • 523

                                                          #29
                                                          Broncos were so worried about the tight ends Brady just lite up Welker who had a great game, but on the other hand Ridley had over 100yards rushing first half which Denver should have been all over. Side not I think Josh Mcdaniels had a big part to do with this he had answer for every defense that Denver put on the field. Also with all the long drives (like the when the Pats started on their own 1yard line and took down the field piece by piece to score) Peyton was not on the fields all that much.
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                                                          • HighTimes
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                                                            • 05-08-12
                                                            • 52

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by stevenash
                                                            Have to admit, Brady is one of the best QB's that ever played the game.
                                                            Fixed it for you
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                                                            • stevenash
                                                              Moderator
                                                              • 01-17-11
                                                              • 65625

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by HighTimes
                                                              Fixed it for you
                                                              He's top 15 all time
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