Obama getting pile driven

[SBR_John]

Here is the simplest of questions: Will raising taxes on employers help or hurt job growth?

Even Obama admits it will hurt. The problem is we are under employed, not under taxed.

[SBR_John]

Mitt Romney to be elected President in 2012
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Closing in on a dead heat. Give it another week.

[muldoon]

So ... you believe the economy is in some kind of boom - and that Republicans are stupid for not recognizing this age of prosperity we're living in?

How does pointing out the fact that things are better now than in 2008, equate to a boom?

[CanuckG]

Offer obama +100 then

[tblues2005]

They are accounting for all of the minorities John. Romney will have to be winning in the polls by at least 5 percent to really be a factor here I do think as sad it is to say. If Romney would be more truthful it would help also. 60 percent is still an uphill battle to climb still. Almost all of the fact check people are saying false statements made by Romney is hitting him hard. It is going to be an interesting debate Thursday and you know both is going to be firing away at each other also.

[Thor4140]

Anyone still think Romney can't debate??

if you are a sucker and watched him campaign for five months to the hard right and than completely flipflop at the debate and turn into a moderate than he is certainly your guy. Debating doesn't mean changing your whole platform while the other guy sits there like a punching bag. Do you have anything to say about the lies he made or just the Texagan logic of praying something goes good for him no matter what he say's? It really is pathetic.

[Thor4140]

Here is the simplest of questions: Will raising taxes on employers help or hurt job growth?

Even Obama admits it will hurt. The problem is we are under employed, not under taxed.

And tax breaks will do nothing. Demand is what causes hiring and when u nitwits finally realize this the country will be better off. any business that gets demand will hire if u raise their taxes or not.

[Sam Odom]

Big Centralized Gov vote Obama

Pro Business Capitalism vote Romney

[TheCentaur]

A flat tax would be a huge increase for over half of all Americans.

Exactly. Guys on here talking about whether it would increase or decrease taxes on people who actually pay in, when close to half of all American adults either pay no taxes or recieve govt. payments by doing a tax return.

A flat tax would only work if the "refunds" were done away with, which could be the start of violent protests, followed by revolution against the protestors. I say go for it

[TheCentaur]

Here is the simplest of questions: Will raising taxes on employers help or hurt job growth?

Even Obama admits it will hurt. The problem is we are under employed, not under taxed.

He offset this by offering a tax cut on long term capital gains for small businesses. Problem is this only helps if ur selling your business. Apparently Obama wants people to sell their business for some reason

[Tully Mars 63]

So ... you believe the economy is in some kind of boom - and that Republicans are stupid for not recognizing this age of prosperity we're living in?

REALLY?

Obama is toast, pal. And you know it.

I see this a lot from both side. It's all or nothing thinking. I never said, nor did I imply, a boom. I simply pointed out it's not worse. I remember back in late 2007 when my 401K lost 38% of it's value in mere weeks. The value of the properties I own tank. Car compampies were on the brink of closure and many banks were. My 401K is nearly back to where it was, my properties are coming back, Car sells are up and I haven't heard of a bank failure in a long time.

I don't think the economy is booming but I certainly don't think it's worse.

I will give who ever said "things are more expensive" that point. But when do prices go down? I remember buying gas for 59 gal. Afternoon movies were .50 cents and and a Big Mac was .29 cents. Hell I remember when a Motel Six was $6.00 a night and Super Eights were 8 bucks.

[xstud]

I see this a lot from both side. It's all or nothing thinking. I never said, nor did I imply, a boom. I simply pointed out it's not worse. I remember back in late 2007 when my 401K lost 38% of it's value in mere weeks. The value of the properties I own tank. Car compampies were on the brink of closure and many banks were. My 401K is nearly back to where it was, my properties are coming back, Car sells are up and I haven't heard of a bank failure in a long time.

I don't think the economy is booming but I certainly don't think it's worse.

I will give who ever said "things are more expensive" that point. But when do prices go down? I remember buying gas for 59 gal. Afternoon movies were .50 cents and and a Big Mac was .29 cents. Hell I remember when a Motel Six was $6.00 a night and Super Eights were 8 bucks.

I really enjoy this post. People need to understand that a monster has been created and big business has been allowed to raise prices for years. Factor in the manipulation of oil prices through speculation along with the severe drought that affected crop prices will result in a higher price for many goods and foods. This is hardly the result of one president but the result of failed policies for the better part of the past few decades.

Sadly, employers will continue to be able to pay less than what was considered "fair wage" due to where unemployment is. However, employers have little incentive to fill the positions that were eliminated during the economic downturn due to many companies being able to survive without those positions that were eliminated. The way things are trending are far better than at the absolute worst of the economic downturn. It is important to remember and acknowledge we will never experience the $1.00 gas or when soda was $3.00 for a 24 pack, because these companies have no incentive to lower prices. It is easy to blame it on overhead or an incompetent gov't or even corporate taxes, but if items are selling, businesses have no reason to return prices to a more consumer friendly level.

Personally, I think instead of talking about raising taxes for anyone. Close loopholes that are unneeded (oil subsidies), impose financial penalties on companies that decide to outsource jobs, and give tax credits to companies who invest in their business in the United States. I think it is a huge travesty when Dems and Repubs are talking about raising taxes on either the rich or the poor when some businesses (ATT comes to mind) receive a multi-million dollar tax refund from the U.S. Gov't. http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/A...-Refund-120912

[ThaTopMoron]

hey you stupid fukks anyone with half a brain knew Obama wasn't ready to be President of anything 4 years ago

why do we have to say it again 4 years later?

[ByeShea]

get your 100 points ready to pay me son.

the flipper's bounce will be short lived

lol ... you have 12 points and a 100 point bet. You probably work in the Department of the Treasury.

Clueless Obama walked off the stage thinking he'd won the debate:


America is fed up with Obama, son. Now it's time to worry: Pew: Romney storms into lead ...
You reckless bastard, how are you gonna get those 100 points together? Are you gonna turn to jj gold? He's nice now, but man - when he's got you over the barrel, there is hell to pay.

[dante1]

if you are a sucker and watched him campaign for five months to the hard right and than completely flipflop at the debate and turn into a moderate than he is certainly your guy. Debating doesn't mean changing your whole platform while the other guy sits there like a punching bag. Do you have anything to say about the lies he made or just the Texagan logic of praying something goes good for him no matter what he say's? It really is pathetic.

Exactly what happend, right on the button.


No, they have no problem with the lies, but I remember a time when they were all carrying flip/flops when a D changed his mind on a couple/few issues. This clown did a complete turn about on almost everything--but that is okay.

[Shafted69]

lol ... you have 12 points and a 100 point bet. You probably work in the Department of the Treasury.

Clueless Obama walked off the stage thinking he'd won the debate:

You reckless bastard, how are you gonna get those 100 points together? Are you gonna turn to jj gold? He's nice now, but man - when he's got you over the barrel, there is hell to pay.

hey dumfukk. i actually have plenty of points in the sports book. i'll bet you another 100 pts i have more than 12 points.

hope you take the bet pusssy

[CanuckG]

hey dumfukk. i actually have plenty of points in the sports book. i'll bet you another 100 pts i have more than 12 points.

hope you take the bet pusssy

I bet you have 398 points

[ByeShea]

I never said, nor did I imply, a boom.

You said jobs were improving - they are not. It is a far cry worse today than 2008. And job growth are temp jobs. That 7.8% itself is a snow job - and the Obama administration is foolish enough to brag about it? 7.8% unemployment? WTF.

Housing market is atrocious. That's simply a fact. What's more it's staying there because banks and the steady drip-drip feed of foreclosed properties onto the market. Nothing rosy about today's snapshot, but when it's as bad or worse as it's been for 4 straight years?

Obama is getting bounced out of office. Hard.

[Shafted69]

Bye Shea pussssy. I will bet you everything in my sbr sportsbook i have more than 12 points..


take the bet you loud mouth shit face.

[tblues2005]

Exactly what happend, right on the button.


No, they have no problem with the lies, but I remember a time when they were all carrying flip/flops when a D changed his mind on a couple/few issues. This clown did a complete turn about on almost everything--but that is okay.

I agree with you totally. The flip flopping that the GOP candidate is doing isn't helping him much. He is far worse than Kerry by far.

[PAULYPOKER]

Here is the simplest of questions: Will raising taxes on employers help or hurt job growth?

Even Obama admits it will hurt. The problem is we are under employed, not under taxed.

Tru dat.................

[ByeShea]

hey dumfukk. i actually have plenty of points in the sports book. i'll bet you another 100 pts i have more than 12 points.

hope you take the bet pusssy

I bet your glow in the dark stickers really look cool in your mom's basement.

[Shafted69]

turns out ByeShea is just another dumfukk oyster who loves to run his chicken shit mouth.

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[Sam Odom]

Libs are getting testy and potty mouthed... I wonder why ?

[Thor4140]

Exactly. Guys on here talking about whether it would increase or decrease taxes on people who actually pay in, when close to half of all American adults either pay no taxes or recieve govt. payments by doing a tax return.

seriously do you buy every rightwing talking point out there? No taxes huh lmfao

[Thor4140]

Big Centralized Gov vote Obama

Pro Business Capitalism vote Romney

losing 750 thousand jobs when he came to office in the worst presidential handoff in the last 50 years. Now producing jobs. Those would be the facts.

[ByeShea]

Libs are getting testy and potty mouthed... I wonder why ?

Because they're angry. I don't blame them.

I'd be bitter if I lived life as a sucker believing every promise and perpetually being told by jet-setting liberals that good times were just around the corner.

Points give some of these assklowns a purpose to live though. 100 here. 1,000 there. If ObamaBoy plays his cards right there might be a free Domino's pizza!

Note I use the word "free". That's what drew ObamaBoy to his hero - and that's why he's a loser no matter what happens.

[stevenash]

losing 750 thousand jobs when he came to office in the worst presidential handoff in the last 50 years. Now producing jobs. Those would be the facts.

For every one job Barry produce, three leave the work force.

I am so not worthy.

[Tully Mars 63]

You said jobs were improving - they are not. It is a far cry worse today than 2008. And job growth are temp jobs. That 7.8% itself is a snow job - and the Obama administration is foolish enough to brag about it? 7.8% unemployment? WTF.

Housing market is atrocious. That's simply a fact. What's more it's staying there because banks and the steady drip-drip feed of foreclosed properties onto the market. Nothing rosy about today's snapshot, but when it's as bad or worse as it's been for 4 straight years?

Obama is getting bounced out of office. Hard.

If everything is horrible why is my 401K and the Dow up... a lot over the past 3 years?

[ByeShea]

losing 750 thousand jobs when he came to office in the worst presidential handoff in the last 50 years. Now producing jobs. Those would be the facts.

When Obama loses the election - are you gonna blame that on Bush too?

[Tully Mars 63]

For every one job Barry produce, three leave the work force.

I am so not worthy.

Where are you getting your numbers?

I'd say the jobs that are being produced are crap jobs. Service sector jobs that pay shit and have crap benefits. Everything I've read and seen have private sector jobs increasing slowly but steadily and public sector job declining.

[ByeShea]

If everything is horrible why is my 401K and the Dow up... a lot over the past 3 years?

You're a gem.

If Obama read your post the first thing he'd do is give a speech to America and tell them that, yes, we are better off than we were four years ago.

And why? Just look at the Dow!

Now go try and sell a property or get a mortgage to buy a new one. You'll see how great the economy is.

[ByeShea]

Everything I've read and seen have private sector jobs increasing slowly but steadily and public sector job declining.

Included in private sector jobs are seasonal temp hiring, like security guards at malls for Christmas season. Wage levels have cratered, while we pay double for gas what we used to and food prices are through the roof. Unemployment is disastrous and the recovery from recession is not even near the rates we've seen recovering from recessions in the past.

Plus Obama said he'd halve national debt (and then doubled it.) Great job, Barry.

Election Day can't come soon enough - he's out!

[big0mar]

Here is the simplest of questions: Will raising taxes on employers help or hurt job growth?

It will have no effect.

[big0mar]

You're a gem.

If Obama read your post the first thing he'd do is give a speech to America and tell them that, yes, we are better off than we were four years ago.

And why? Just look at the Dow!

Now go try and sell a property or get a mortgage to buy a new one. You'll see how great the economy is.

I just took out multiple mortgages and purchased rental props. Not very hard for people with good credit to get mortgages.

Certainly won't help the housing market when Romney eliminates the mortgage deduction.