True Credit Wagering threats with proof!! Bad Bad sportsbook!!!!

[MonkeyF0cker]

Maybe it's a lesson. Mind your own buisness and your Dad won't get dragged through your crap. Your Dad must be really happy that you chose to become a private investigator and expose them.

I really have a hard time with that, Mike. There is no excuse for a third party's account being closed due to a dispute between a book and another individual. I really don't think that is appropriate action for a book. How is that justified?

[MonkeyF0cker]

What's next? If your neighbor stiffs CW, are they going to close all accounts within a one mile radius of the stiff? Not only is it a terrible precedent, but completely unethical.

[Richkas]

I really have a hard time with that, Mike. There is no excuse for a third party's account being closed due to a dispute between a book and another individual. I really don't think that is appropriate action for a book. How is that justified?

His dad didnt have a account. This punk opened multiple accounts from different cpu's using his dads name. If you cant figure that out then you have no street sense

[MonkeyF0cker]

However, ethics does not seem to be a high priority for this operation and that is a troubling sign.

[englishmike]

I really have a hard time with that, Mike. There is no excuse for a third party's account being closed due to a dispute between a book and another individual. I really don't think that is appropriate action for a book. How is that justified?

Under normal circumstances I 100% agree with you, without any exceptions.

However, ifyou read his first post he admits that he deliberately opened an account that he knew he wasnt going to pay for the purposes of getting on the stiff list so he could then sue them thus exposing their whole operation with the ultimate goal being their demise.

Is it any wonder they'll do anything to get back at this guy?

Seems to me he has such an agenda against CW anyway that he probably made his 'fathers' account for his own ends.

[MonkeyF0cker]

His dad didnt have a account. This punk opened multiple accounts from different cpu's using his dads name. If you cant figure that out then you have no street sense

Ahh. Now the "excuses" from the shill come. So CW knew that he opened multiple accounts but only closed them upon stiffing, right? Nice try. I'm afraid I have a bit more street sense than you...

[THEGREAT30]

His dad didnt have a account. This punk opened multiple accounts from different cpu's using his dads name. If you cant figure that out then you have no street sense

I read in another sites forum of a similar story, where someones Id was supposedly taken unknowingly, but CW supposedly tried to hold the person whose id they had accountable, does this work both ways? Meaning if they can close his dads account with know real proof, how can they hold someone accountable with know real proof?

[Richkas]

where do these guys come from?

[Kargo]

Good thing screen names can't be associated with accounts in books, because I don't find smart posting in a sportsbook forum that I'm a stiffer, it's like going to an FBI forum and say I'm a serial killer. On the other hand, I also agree that closing one's account for someone else's issues is not right at all, basically they're making your friends pay for the money you owe, simply not right... heads up everyone, judge books for their actions !

[englishmike]

I think the bottom line is they're a shady outfit, if you choose to play there you do with that in mind. If your intention is to play there in an attempt to 'out' them you really do have to take whatever crap flies your way, that's how shady outfits operate, that's my take.

[MonkeyF0cker]

There is NO WAY that CW pays him if they suspected him of creating multiple accounts. No way. I'm not buying it. Keep trying to sell it, Richkas. It's not gonna stick.

[Richkas]

I read in another sites forum of a similar story, where someones Id was supposedly taken unknowingly, but CW supposedly tried to hold the person whose id they had accountable, does this work both ways? Meaning if they can close his dads account with know real proof, how can they hold someone accountable with know real proof?

They talk to everybody on the phone. They develop relationships with some. Great customer service. When somebody never awnsers their phone, they got to be careful. They are not stupid.

[Richkas]

There is NO WAY that CW pays him if they suspected him of creating multiple accounts. No way. I'm not buying it. Keep trying to sell it, Richkas. It's not gonna stick.

I could find out but I dont care. But I guarantee the oldmans account was opened AFTER his first payout.

[MJFtheGenius]

I don't get it

what's ur point guy....you lost

[THEGREAT30]

I don't get it

what's ur point guy....you lost

They closed his fathers account, which has nothing to do with him. I guess that's his point if you care.

[Richkas]

However, ethics does not seem to be a high priority for this operation and that is a troubling sign.

A troubling sign for the weak and poor.

[MonkeyF0cker]

And that comprises 99% of CW's clientele...

[englishmike]

He claims they blocked his fathers account and he claims they harrased his neighbours by phone reagrding the debt.

1) How did they know the alleged account was his fathers?

2) How did CW get his neighbours numbers and how did CW know they weren't talking to an off duty FBI officer or the relative of a high ranking government official?

Bottom line is, the guy is making the story up as he goes along to suit his ficticious story. He played and he lost, I couldn't give a fvck whether he pays or not but to go through a story like this to avoid it is pathetic.

[MonkeyF0cker]

He offered to forward the emails to SBR. I'm sort of inclined to believe him as these tactics have been reported in the past and by CW's very own shill.

[CaneDawg]

Bottom Line

He's 20 yrs old and he don't have a grand to pay

He spent the 500 they paid him thinking he would never lose

We were all there once

Make arrangements....pay....you will be better for it

[Kargo]

I agree he has to pay them, period, stiffers always come up with Alice in Wonderland stories not to pay, but if indeed they closed his father's account that's not right.

[englishmike]

He offered to forward the emails to SBR. I'm sort of inclined to believe him as these tactics have been reported in the past and by CW's very own shill.

Agreed but in his first post he says his intention was to avoid paying...so what does he expect from a shady outfit?

Also, imagine you are a local and he places a bet with you on the basis he wants to out you to the feds....how would you feel about him?

[RogueScholar]

He played and he lost, I couldn't give a fvck whether he pays or not but to go through a story like this to avoid it is pathetic.

I think it's sad that there are people here who want to minimize the concept of being a stiff. The entire essence of gambling is the willingness of a person to assume the risk of a wager in exchange for the potential profits. Those who want to turn gambling into a one-way street erode the industry for us all. I'm not a player at CW, but I do admire their willingness to put money in play based on a belief in "honor among thieves". The stiffs and their apologists are a blight on our community.

[Kargo]

At this point I believe the situation is divided between a thief and a bad rep book, can't believe either side. Anyways, I though books only allowed players over 21 !

[MonkeyF0cker]

Agreed but in his first post he says his intention was to avoid paying...so what does he expect from a shady outfit?

Also, imagine you are a local and he places a bet with you on the basis he wants to out you to the feds....how would you feel about him?

I guess that is more my point than anything. The place is shady. No credible book would need to resort to such measures. Any book operating within the laws of their jurisdiction would not need to be worried by such a threat. This is simply more evidence that this book is operated within the confines of the U.S.

[Richkas]

I guess that is more my point than anything. The place is shady. No credible book would need to resort to such measures. Any book operating within the laws of their jurisdiction would not need to be worried by such a threat. This is simply more evidence that this book is operated within the confines of the U.S.

you wouldnt have the balls to play with a bookie would you?

[Kargo]

All sense of privacy is lost with a local bookie, better off with offshore books, but play by their rules.

[englishmike]

I guess that is more my point than anything. The place is shady. No credible book would need to resort to such measures. Any book operating within the laws of their jurisdiction would not need to be worried by such a threat. This is simply more evidence that this book is operated within the confines of the U.S.

Agreed. So given the fact they're a shady operation, quite possibly located in the US by shady characters, they were probably the wrong book to aim a personal 'crusade' against.

[robmpink]

Hey NWO I have a gun that's unmarked that you can use for those goon's, just let me know and maybe we can work something out.

This is a pretty dumb comment. Maybe he could use the unmarked gun and the bodies could vanish into thin air. When they come to collect the first thing on his mind is the unmarked gun that he could pump bullets into them with. Thank God for your unmarked gun. You are a savior. You and your unmarked gun, 2pac. Go slang some dope with the other wiggers.

Why not just give him your 15 man army and equipt them with stinger missles where they could shoot them from your chopper?

[Kargo]

this is unreal already !

[Nwo4life]

Lol..I did not open multiple accounts..I have all emails saved that if SBR cares to contact me, I will forward all of them to them.As well as prove my dads account as well as mine..We are not even in a 30 mile radius of each other. So this thread needs to die...If SBR wants to downgrade them, they may contact me at my on file email address..All I was trying to do is warn others about them, wether I'm a stiff or not....

[daggerkobe]

Can't you find out where they are located from looking at the postmark on the debit card they send out or where they picked up the ** deposit?

[CaneDawg]

Can't you find out where they are located from looking at the postmark on the debit card they send out or where they picked up the ** deposit?

comes from canada

they are in the DR and CR

[MonkeyF0cker]

you wouldnt have the balls to play with a bookie would you?

I have in the past. However, my bookies were a bit wiser when it came to running an illegal operation. They didn't let the entire world know about it. I have no need for a bookie now. I have far better options at my disposal.

[tacomax]

I must remark on how disappointed I was when I went into the chat room and there was absolutely no sex chat going on.