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  • tatommack
    SBR MVP
    • 10-10-08
    • 4171

    #36
    Wow that right there tells you what kind book heritage is. Book pays back deposits from a banned player. If I was heritage I would have gave them ga's number and told them to have a good day. Sob is lucky as hell.
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    • The Kraken
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 12-25-11
      • 28918

      #37
      Yisman, cory isnt even the main topic hes just another scammer that got scammed but I couldnt care any less about him. Glad he never got paid but it doesnt mean I agree with precdeent that SbR is setting. Pay the blood money and buy the judge

      But Yisman, its not actually about any of that, nope, this thread really WAS about my falcolns and over release

      Hope you got on it in time Y
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      • Chi_archie
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-22-08
        • 63172

        #38
        Originally posted by The Kraken
        this thread really WAS about my falcolns and over release

        I'd like to hear more about your over release!!!!
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        • yisman
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 09-01-08
          • 75682

          #39
          Kraken, are you really this oblivious? I didn't weigh in on the main thrust of your post because I have no opinion on it.

          I jumped in because I hate to see too much pimiking going on.
          [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
          [/quote]

          [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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          • Chi_archie
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-22-08
            • 63172

            #40
            Way to stay neutral like switzerland on the main thrust!!!!!

            Yisman might be gay

            also Falcons first half ML!
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            • The Kraken
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 12-25-11
              • 28918

              #41
              Originally posted by Chi_archie
              I'd like to hear more about your over release!!!!
              Poor mrs kraken. I blew out her hymen.
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              • The Kraken
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 12-25-11
                • 28918

                #42
                Originally posted by yisman
                Kraken, are you really this oblivious? I didn't weigh in on the main thrust of your post because I have no opinion on it.

                I jumped in because I hate to see too much pimiking going on.


                Only reason I put the play was bc for a thread to stay in pt it needs a play or sports related topic.

                It will get salooned soon emough and rightfully so and then ill have another legit reason to bitch about Lou or Saunders. If it stays in pt, i win.

                Just playing a low intellect game of chess with the mods, yisman.

                Slow nite
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                • yisman
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 09-01-08
                  • 75682

                  #43
                  You win kraken. You're right and I surrender, like the French. Another battle lost.

                  I failed to recognize what you were doing and you're bright indeed.
                  [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                  [/quote]

                  [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                  • milwaukee mike
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 08-22-07
                    • 26914

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Br0nxer
                    Is he cheating to hit the two royals whatever two royals is?

                    or did he win the money legit the first or second time?
                    a royal is a royal flush on video poker
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                    • milwaukee mike
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 08-22-07
                      • 26914

                      #45
                      Originally posted by Chi_archie
                      good stuff

                      How Yismas buried himself so bad here is an ENIGMA to me
                      oh i see what you did there

                      not too many people will get that though, most sbr guys only post here...
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                      • opie1988
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-12-10
                        • 23429

                        #46
                        Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                        a royal is a royal flush on video poker

                        Mikey....in that thread several people kept mentioning the fact that Heritage was "freerolling" Corey (or his mom).

                        The fukk is freerolling?? And why is it frowned upon?
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                        • milwaukee mike
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 08-22-07
                          • 26914

                          #47
                          freerolling means taking a side where you can't lose. for example when brock used to do chargebacks (allegedly), he was "freerolling".

                          if he won, he would cash out winnings, if he lost, he would get a credit back on his CC for the deposit.

                          same thing here, if cory won, heritage could say he was banned and not pay his winnings, and if cory lost then heritage would keep the losses.
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                          • Br0nxer
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-25-11
                            • 13665

                            #48
                            Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                            a royal is a royal flush on video poker
                            Ok

                            Did he cheat to get a royal flush?

                            How would someone even do that?
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                            • ChalkyDog
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 10-02-11
                              • 9598

                              #49
                              Originally posted by opie1988
                              Mikey....in that thread several people kept mentioning the fact that Heritage was "freerolling" Corey (or his mom).

                              The fukk is freerolling?? And why is it frowned upon?


                              Can't answer, but that humor is good at this time of day.
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                              • You mad bro
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-15-12
                                • 16641

                                #50
                                Online casinos are so pussy .. Steal ur money and never wanna pay out ..

                                Id like to slap all of the admins that run their sites ..

                                Fckn pussies
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                                • Br0nxer
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 03-25-11
                                  • 13665

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by You mad bro
                                  Online casinos are so pussy .. Steal ur money and never wanna pay out ..

                                  Id like to slap all of the admins that run their sites ..

                                  Fckn pussies

                                  First smart thing i have ever seen u post
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                                  • You mad bro
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-15-12
                                    • 16641

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Br0nxer
                                    Ok

                                    Did he cheat to get a royal flush?

                                    How would someone even do that?
                                    Same shit as a casino .. For every 200 k they rake in they pay out a certain percentage .. Keeps people happy and coming back if they win .. They know people will always come back anyway

                                    I forgot what the percentges were exactly about casino machine payouts
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                                    • milwaukee mike
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 08-22-07
                                      • 26914

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Br0nxer
                                      Ok

                                      Did he cheat to get a royal flush?

                                      How would someone even do that?
                                      doesn't appear that he cheated. here is the scenario, as i understand it.

                                      heritage bans cory, because he plays a ton of video poker, possibly using a bot. the game pays back 99% or so and he gets 5%-8% in rebates making it very profitable.

                                      cory's mom "helena" sets up an account, gets the same kind of rebates, is down 19k at one time, and then hits a couple royals and is up big.

                                      heritage agrees to pay back deposits but not winnings since player is banned and was playing under his mom's account.
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                                      • milwaukee mike
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 08-22-07
                                        • 26914

                                        #54
                                        the "bricks and mortar" comparison would be the bellagio banning me, then i come back with a terrible disguise. they know it's me, and let me lose 19k, but when i'm up big they don't give me the winnings.

                                        the casino had no risk, and was letting someone play that couldn't win, which is why it is frowned upon.
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                                        • firedawg
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 10-08-08
                                          • 39219

                                          #55
                                          Good post mike
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                                          • You mad bro
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-15-12
                                            • 16641

                                            #56
                                            Like i said before casinos are fckn gay
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                                            • SBR_John
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 07-12-05
                                              • 16471

                                              #57
                                              If this player was in a regulated gaming environment and forced to have his complaint heard by a regulated gaming commission he would have lost.

                                              The "freeroll" argument falls short because the player broke the rules by returning after he was banned. The player knew and weighed the risks and thought he would not be caught. This time the risk part of the risk/reward equation of sneaking back in after being banned got the better of him.
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                                              • milwaukee mike
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 08-22-07
                                                • 26914

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                If this player was in a regulated gaming environment and forced to have his complaint heard by a regulated gaming commission he would have lost.

                                                The "freeroll" argument falls short because the player broke the rules by returning after he was banned. The player knew and weighed the risks and thought he would not be caught. This time the risk part of the risk/reward equation of sneaking back in after being banned got the better of him.
                                                you never know what a jury or gaming commission will do. good points john, from my point of view it all depends if heritage knew cory was playing and allowed him to. which of course would be pretty hard to prove either way.

                                                interesting case, and i can see both sides
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                                                • davidchong
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-10-06
                                                  • 1806

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                  I've abstained from making any comments on the recent Heritage fleecing. I made my opinions of Cory well known after he scammed EZ-STREET and there was no reason to re-visit those statements. Cory is a WELL-KNOWN scam artist and this time has drug his own mother through the shit with him.

                                                  But that's all beside the point I want to make.

                                                  Boys, in all seriousness, be careful playing at any book that accepts US players. I've said this for quite some time. Not ONE is safe. As long as you're losing and don't plan on winning, then this post isn't for you. If you're routinely taking payouts for less than $2500, this post isn't for you either.

                                                  The reality is the industry is changing before our very eyes

                                                  I'll refrain from any cheap shots at SBR or it's sponsors but there are a few of you out there Im quite fond of that this does affect.

                                                  To you, BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU PUT YOUR MONEY and do not expect a favorable ruling if you have a conflict with an affiliate book.

                                                  The Devil is in the Details



                                                  Take the over and Falcons tonight and enjoy your winnings

                                                  agree with you
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                                                  • The Kraken
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 12-25-11
                                                    • 28918

                                                    #60
                                                    I'm hearing this deserves a bump
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                                                    • Jayvegas420
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 03-09-11
                                                      • 28213

                                                      #61
                                                      One of my 1st experiences with something like this was when I was 12 years old. We had a local exhibition that visited town once a year & it had a casino that traveled with it.
                                                      One day I grew the courage to actually sit at a Black Jack table with the adults and I didn't have a clue what basic strategy was, all I knew was that I had to get to 21 without going over. Obviously I lost the $40 I had on me and left the table. The next day I returned with my father and he gave me $20 to go on the rides but, even then I was a developing degen, and brought the money back to the table.
                                                      This time I actually won a few hands and decided to bet everything I had in front of me on a single hand. Well, I won the hand & and became very excited and then the dealer pushed just my bet back to me & said "Son, you're too young to be in this section of the exhibition."
                                                      I remember the torn feelings I felt at that time.
                                                      I knew I wasn't old enough to be playing so, I left the table, cashed the chips out & then went on some rides & threw some darts.
                                                      As I walked around the exhibition looking for my father I couldn't help feeling what I now can only describe as "violated".
                                                      Back then I was just confused about what happened & it wasn't until my Dad explained to me that they would have allowed me to continue to play until all my was gone that I realized how improper it is to accept gambling wagers in bad faith.
                                                      I wanted my Father to go back to the BJ table & get my money back for me but, in hind site I realize that by handling the way he did he was trying to teach me not only to see the angles I saw but, to be aware of others angles and adjust my gambling options more carefully.
                                                      I feel bad for a book or Virtual casino that has to spend countless hours and large sums of money on security, to try and protect themselves & other players but, I also sympathise with players when I hear stories like this.
                                                      Well, not exactly like this because I am one of those who finds it very suspicious when someone hits 4 Royals in......a lifetime!
                                                      Either way as gamblers we have to be aware who we are sending our money to.
                                                      Bottom line is here.....Books, casinos, even carnival-side BJ tables DON'T WANT TO PAY YOU IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
                                                      When no body has jurisdiction over you you can facilitate this much more easily.

                                                      Just my 2 cents
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                                                      • The Kraken
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 12-25-11
                                                        • 28918

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                        I'm hearing this deserves a bump
                                                        I knew this was coming down the pipeline, I just wasn't sure which book it was going to be. Listening to the attorneys talk, I thought it was pinny or 5dimes. They were talking like they were bringing the industry down They don't know what they don't know
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