When the spread doesn't move, follow the money

[jhnbrick]

very understandable.... thanks! This stuff is all very interesting and to me, vegas got killed last week so this week, it might be smart to look at these line movements and sharp money.

How well does this work for NBA?

[dwaechte]

Should work for any of the visible professional leagues(NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL).

But, it's best not to look at it on a week-to-week basis. What happened just last week will have no bearing on anything that happens this week.

[jhnbrick]

One more question sorry, how do you use this tactic for the total if you even use it at all?

[mehdim]

i thins jacksonvile +3 is the best sample for reverse line movemet

pick jacksonville ML

[LT Profits]

I know Houston U and Troy were plays last night. May look closer later when I get a chance.

[SexyMit]

Yes I had Houston and Troy big last night... Thought TROY was going to win outright. I can't believe they blew that 31-3 lead. Seattle looks to be the play today and Jags also...

[McRich]

very understandable.... thanks! This stuff is all very interesting and to me, vegas got killed last week so this week, it might be smart to look at these line movements and sharp money.

How well does this work for NBA?

I have been using RLM in the NBA for a couple of weeks. It has worked very well in the NBA for me. That is pretty much all I look for to bet in the NBA.

[McRich]

OK, here are my NFL RLM plays for today.

All for one unit -110
Raiders +10.5
Jaguars +2.5
Redskins +1

[just me]

Yes I had Houston and Troy big last night... Thought TROY was going to win outright. I can't believe they blew that 31-3 lead. Seattle looks to be the play today and Jags also...

I just not understand how jaguar and seattle both loss.This theory support both of the team

[The_Kid]

I just not understand how jaguar and seattle both loss.This theory support both of the team

It's doesn't hit 100% of the time. It's just a matter of being on the "sharp" side, rather than the "square" side.

[yisman]

Jaguars and Seahawks both had a chance to win and cover.

Doesn't mean it's going to hit every time. I'll take my chances with it, though.

[just me]

Is that mean play of tonight should be wash?

[McRich]

OK, here are my NFL RLM plays for today.

All for one unit -110
Raiders +10.5
Jaguars +2.5
Redskins +1

This week I went 1-2 RLM in the NFL.

[mehdim]

Dear LT PROFIT

i have a question... what is the minimum number of bet needs to decide for betting?

forexample for NFL the number of bets is 10,000 what about NBA and NHL

tanx

[LT Profits]

I would say 5,000 for hoops and maybe 3,000 for NHL. Keep in mind that these are purely guesstimates, as Sports Insights gives the vague "sufficient number of bets" when describing their record tracking.

[patsfan2727]

It's doesn't hit 100% of the time. It's just a matter of being on the "sharp" side, rather than the "square" side.

This has to be the stupidest phrase in sports betting. the only "sides" to a game are the right or wrong sides, determined after the game is over. Sharp and square is an illusion in your mind, bro.

If "sharp bets" like Wash, jacksonville and seattle won 100% of the time, I could see a correlation there, but how are you going to say you were on the "sharp" side but lost? its stupid

[dwaechte]

This has to be the stupidest phrase in sports betting. the only "sides" to a game are the right or wrong sides, determined after the game is over. Sharp and square is an illusion in your mind, bro.

If "sharp bets" like Wash, jacksonville and seattle won 100% of the time, I could see a correlation there, but how are you going to say you were on the "sharp" side but lost? its stupid

[The_Kid]

This has to be the stupidest phrase in sports betting. the only "sides" to a game are the right or wrong sides, determined after the game is over. Sharp and square is an illusion in your mind, bro.

If "sharp bets" like Wash, jacksonville and seattle won 100% of the time, I could see a correlation there, but how are you going to say you were on the "sharp" side but lost? its stupid

Why is it stupid? No one is perfect... people pick sides wrong all the time.

[LT Profits]

This has to be the stupidest phrase in sports betting. the only "sides" to a game are the right or wrong sides, determined after the game is over. Sharp and square is an illusion in your mind, bro.

If "sharp bets" like Wash, jacksonville and seattle won 100% of the time, I could see a correlation there, but how are you going to say you were on the "sharp" side but lost? its stupid

You are dead wrong there, the biggest key is beating the closing number. If you do that consistently, you WILL win in the long run. Losing a few games where you beat the closing line does not change long-term expectations.

The whole point of locking in at a sharp line move of one point is to beat the closing line, as these games oftentimes move further after you get the bet in.

[BoomerOK95]

This has to be the stupidest phrase in sports betting. the only "sides" to a game are the right or wrong sides, determined after the game is over. Sharp and square is an illusion in your mind, bro.

If "sharp bets" like Wash, jacksonville and seattle won 100% of the time, I could see a correlation there, but how are you going to say you were on the "sharp" side but lost? its stupid

YOU are SO RIGHT! LMAO everytime i hear this crap! the teams do not play better or worse depending on "RLM" or shaprs and square, thats is all BS did any of YOU ever play or Coach football? did it matter who bet what ? hell no.

lines MOVE every week, check em all, not cherry pick a few, check EACH ONE, and you will see your "theory" is 50-50. average , 60-40 or 40-60 the next week

you guys keep at it though, you guys are like newman and kramer trying to beat the system , LOL


PS : love the excuse "well, it doesnt win everytime" heck not even most of the time

[LT Profits]

YOU are SO RIGHT! LMAO everytime i hear this crap! the teams do not play better or worse depending on "RLM" or shaprs and square, thats is all BS did any of YOU ever play or Coach football? did it matter who bet what ? hell no.

lines MOVE every week, check em all, not cherry pick a few, check EACH ONE, and you will see your "theory" is 50-50. average , 60-40 or 40-60 the next week

you guys keep at it though, you guys are like newman and kramer trying to beat the system , LOL


PS : love the excuse "well, it doesnt win everytime" heck not even most of the time

Wrong, playing Reverse Moves only has been profitable in every sport.

Reverse line movements can lead to big profits

[patsfan2727]

RLM did not work yesterday, Seattle, Jacksonville and Washington all LOST once again proving that if you bet on a team simply based on Line movement, you are a moron. keep trying to outthink the books and you will be dead broke soon. or maybe you use RLM because you don't know how to cap a game.

Oh yeah, and for everyone who still believes in "sharp" and "square" sides of bets, I bet you also still believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny.

Furthermore, how the HELL do you designate these stupid a$$ "sharp" picks. seriously. somebody create a thread with "sharp" picks only, and prove to me they can go 6-4 or better over the course of 10 games. then I will believe you.

honestly, there are some LUCKY posters on here, but I don't see how anybody is "sharp". not tryin to bust balls but if you were truly a "sharp" why are you on this site at all? just stick to your CASH MONEY picks and let us squares lose all our cash.

dwaechte - nice sharp pick on the skins last night brotha!
LT - nice sharp pick on the Knicks ML!

no, I do not want to battle you in a 100 pick contest.
no, I don't think I'm better than you.

just proving a point that we are all, simply, just guessing here.
if you like a game, bet it because YOU like it, not who the "late money" likes or the "sharps" like it.

[The_Kid]

RLM did not work yesterday, Seattle, Jacksonville and Washington all LOST once again proving that if you bet on a team simply based on Line movement, you are a moron. keep trying to outthink the books and you will be dead broke soon. or maybe you use RLM because you don't know how to cap a game.

Oh yeah, and for everyone who still believes in "sharp" and "square" sides of bets, I bet you also still believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny.

Furthermore, how the HELL do you designate these stupid a$$ "sharp" picks. seriously. somebody create a thread with "sharp" picks only, and prove to me they can go 6-4 or better over the course of 10 games. then I will believe you.

honestly, there are some LUCKY posters on here, but I don't see how anybody is "sharp". not tryin to bust balls but if you were truly a "sharp" why are you on this site at all? just stick to your CASH MONEY picks and let us squares lose all our cash.

dwaechte - nice sharp pick on the skins last night brotha!
LT - nice sharp pick on the Knicks ML!

no, I do not want to battle you in a 100 pick contest.
no, I don't think I'm better than you.

just proving a point that we are all, simply, just guessing here.
if you like a game, bet it because YOU like it, not who the "late money" likes or the "sharps" like it.

Stop your whining. Just read LT Profits article.

[McRich]

RLM did not work yesterday, Seattle, Jacksonville and Washington all LOST once again proving that if you bet on a team simply based on Line movement, you are a moron. keep trying to outthink the books and you will be dead broke soon. or maybe you use RLM because you don't know how to cap a game.

Oh yeah, and for everyone who still believes in "sharp" and "square" sides of bets, I bet you also still believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny.

Furthermore, how the HELL do you designate these stupid a$$ "sharp" picks. seriously. somebody create a thread with "sharp" picks only, and prove to me they can go 6-4 or better over the course of 10 games. then I will believe you.

honestly, there are some LUCKY posters on here, but I don't see how anybody is "sharp". not tryin to bust balls but if you were truly a "sharp" why are you on this site at all? just stick to your CASH MONEY picks and let us squares lose all our cash.

dwaechte - nice sharp pick on the skins last night brotha!
LT - nice sharp pick on the Knicks ML!

no, I do not want to battle you in a 100 pick contest.
no, I don't think I'm better than you.

just proving a point that we are all, simply, just guessing here.
if you like a game, bet it because YOU like it, not who the "late money" likes or the "sharps" like it.

I am not interested in proving you or anyone else wrong, but I will post some RLM plays here that I play and see how they stack up. I am just trying to win some funds. I have been using the RLM for a few weeks along with my own capping and making a profit. The RLM gives me some insight into line movements that I did not recognize before, so it has helped me.

[Robust]

RLM did not work yesterday, Seattle, Jacksonville and Washington all LOST once again proving that if you bet on a team simply based on Line movement, you are a moron. keep trying to outthink the books and you will be dead broke soon. or maybe you use RLM because you don't know how to cap a game.

Oh yeah, and for everyone who still believes in "sharp" and "square" sides of bets, I bet you also still believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny.

Furthermore, how the HELL do you designate these stupid a$$ "sharp" picks. seriously. somebody create a thread with "sharp" picks only, and prove to me they can go 6-4 or better over the course of 10 games. then I will believe you.

honestly, there are some LUCKY posters on here, but I don't see how anybody is "sharp". not tryin to bust balls but if you were truly a "sharp" why are you on this site at all? just stick to your CASH MONEY picks and let us squares lose all our cash.

dwaechte - nice sharp pick on the skins last night brotha!
LT - nice sharp pick on the Knicks ML!

no, I do not want to battle you in a 100 pick contest.
no, I don't think I'm better than you.

just proving a point that we are all, simply, just guessing here.
if you like a game, bet it because YOU like it, not who the "late money" likes or the "sharps" like it.

11/16/2008 ARIZONA CARDINALS -3 -3 85% 41% 84% 26
16:05 EST SEATTLE SEAHAWKS 48.5 48 15% 59% 16% 20

11/16/2008 TENNESSEE TITANS -3 -3 75% 26% 55% 24
16:15 EST JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS 38.5 40 25% 74% 45% 14

11/16/2008 DALLAS COWBOYS -1.5 -2 80% 53% 87% 14
20:15 EST WASHINGTON REDSKINS 45 43 20% 47% 13% 10

where are the RLM in those lines(closing lines from sports dot com)?? You must not understand RLM..

Example:

11/16/2008 OAKLAND RAIDERS 39 37.5 27% 50% 55% 15
13:00 EST MIAMI DOLPHINS -11 -10 73% 50% 45% 17

11/16/2008 HOUSTON TEXANS 49.5 50.5 36% 12% 52% 27
13:00 EST INDIANAPOLIS COLTS -9 -8 64% 88% 48% 33

11/16/2008 PHILADELPHIA EAGLES -9.5 -9 77% 74% 81% 13
13:00 EST CINCINNATI BENGALS 43 41 23% 26% 19% 13


all covered.

good luck in the future.

Robust

[Robust]

two of the teams you mentioned were all good examples of my theory of "When the spread doesn't move, follow the money." RLM is something else.

in that cenario, these would have hit using that system.

just an fyi.

Robust

[smitch124]

The key is beating the closing number, thats what you wanna track. How often is this angle allowing me to beat the closing number.

[LT Profits]

The key is beating the closing number, thats what you wanna track. How often is this angle allowing me to beat the closing number.

A lot more times in College sports and in MLB/NHL than in NFL and NBA, with NFL being the smallest amount, simply because there aren't as many moves of more than one point in NFL than other sports. That said, you can still beat closing line in NFL if you use a slow-moving book.

Perfect example was Texans, as you could have still gotten quite a few 9's at -110 even when Pinny and CRIS moved to 8.

[LT Profits]

By the way, this is another case where our good friends at CW become very useful.

[McRich]

I am wagering on the Pacers -3 -110 for one unit on RLM.

Starting today I will keep my RLM records here for the ones I bet.

I am still new at betting RLM, so I may read the RLM wrong, so LT can always correct me.

[yisman]

YOU are SO RIGHT! LMAO everytime i hear this crap! the teams do not play better or worse depending on "RLM" or shaprs and square, thats is all BS did any of YOU ever play or Coach football? did it matter who bet what ? hell no.

lines MOVE every week, check em all, not cherry pick a few, check EACH ONE, and you will see your "theory" is 50-50. average , 60-40 or 40-60 the next week

you guys keep at it though, you guys are like newman and kramer trying to beat the system , LOL


PS : love the excuse "well, it doesnt win everytime" heck not even most of the time

amazingly stupid post.

Yeah it doesn't win every time. NOTHING wins every time.

The idea is to give an edge and long term, you will make money by tracking and using RLM.

[patsfan2727]

so let me get this straight:

"sharp" picks include

betting on the team where RLM applies

Following the money if the spread doesn't move?


but then what about "late money is dead money"??

[patsfan2727]

here are my beefs with "RLM"

What if your book changes the line based on the people betting on the game THROUGH THAT BOOK??

if the general overall consensus was on Miami, but my book's consensus was on the raiders, the line would move in favor of the dolphins on my book. and that would APPEAR to be RLM, but not

How do you know the books did not move the line for some other reason other than bets placed on one side? What if they get other information and thats why the line was changed? How can you really know if it is TRUE RLM?

[patsfan2727]

amazingly stupid post.

Yeah it doesn't win every time. NOTHING wins every time.

The idea is to give an edge and long term, you will make money by tracking and using RLM.

you are calling this guy stupid, yet you are telling me that you base your picks long term completely on RLM?
dude are you for real?

I'm not sure how long sports gambling has existed, but I'm pretty sure that if something like this worked even 60% of the time, it woudl have been EXTREMEMLY WELL DOCUMENTED by now. i mean seriously its a good theory, but don't you think if it was credible more than 5 people on this site would be all over it?

[yisman]

you are calling this guy stupid, yet you are telling me that you base your picks long term completely on RLM?
dude are you for real?

Dude, are you for real? RIF.

1)I didn't say the guy was stupid. I said it was a stupid post. It was the first post of his that I've read.

2)Where did I say that I base my picks completely on RLM? I just stated a fact; that one will make money if he follows RLM closely and makes plays based off of that. Maybe 5% of my plays have anything to do with line movement. I don't follow it nearly as closely as LT Profits. However, I have seen the evidence, and it is convincing. Using RLM will make you money. Of course, true RLM games are not that common and a big key is actually beating the line, which isn't that easy.