Is Patriots -3 This Weekend Another Trap By Vegas??

[brahmabull117]

The point isn't that the games are similar in anyway. The point is that all games have pivotal moments and you can always look back and give reasons or excuses why a team lost or didn't cover. The fact is the Bears held a very good offensive team, PHI, in check and that is the argument Bears backers are hanging their hat on for this game.

And for the record, I believe the Eagles gained around 190 of their 390 total yards in the 4th quarter when they were down by 18 points against the Bears prevent defense.

keep in mind the bears scored 31 points on the eagles defense, that is a LOT better than the patriots defense

[SBRPicks]

Why is this line so low? I got destroyed by the Colts last night..and now I'm tempted to bet on the Pats -3 on Sunday. But I'm also tempted to avoid any bet that looks too good to be true.

What do I do?

Here's some analysis from the SBRtv video this week:

[brahmabull117]

Here's some analysis from the SBRtv video this week:

all 3 agreed on the bears

[SquareBet]

Does anyone know why the total is dropping like a brick? Is is the weather?

Two reasons... First they are calling for -4 windchill and 28 mph winds at gametime.

The second reason has to do with the field... it's being re-sodded after they played a bunch of high school games the past week @ soldier. Anyone that knows grass understands that early December is not the best time to put down new sod.

I feel like the under is def. the sharp play here.

[Redchevy]

all 3 agreed on the bears

Bid deal, if you feel comfortable with what these 3 guys think, lay it down!! The truth of the matter is, no one person actually knows what is going to happen in this game. If these 3 guys opinions' solidify your gut feeling, go for it. In my case, history and stats mean nothing to me, I look at the here and now. What I do know is NEs' offense is on fire, Brady is unbelieveable playing in these conditions and Belichick is 4-0 against Martz. I also don't care what the Bears did with Vick, all they had to do was put the bullseye on him to first stop him from running. They are getting a whole different animal in Brady. Personnaly, I don't think any defense can cover all of Bradys' targets, bad field and all. That's just my opinion on how I see it. I know all too well anything can happen, but when my money is on the table, I'm betting the hot hand and it's not Cutler, that to me is like betting a 3 legged horse. NE is going to bring the house, count on it!!!! Good luck backing the Bears!!! That's why they call it gambling!!!!

[brahmabull117]

Bid deal, if you feel comfortable with what these 3 guys think, lay it down!! The truth of the matter is, no one person actually knows what is going to happen in this game. If these 3 guys opinions' solidify your gut feeling, go for it. In my case, history and stats mean nothing to me, I look at the here and now. What I do know is NEs' offense is on fire, Brady is unbelieveable playing in these conditions and Belichick is 4-0 against Martz. I also don't care what the Bears did with Vick, all they had to do was put the bullseye on him to first stop him from running. They are getting a whole different animal in Brady. Personnaly, I don't think any defense can cover all of Bradys' targets, bad field and all. That's just my opinion on how I see it. I know all too well anything can happen, but when my money is on the table, I'm betting the hot hand and it's not Cutler, that to me is like betting a 3 legged horse. NE is going to bring the house, count on it!!!! Good luck backing the Bears!!! That's why they call it gambling!!!!

1)You really think that containing Mike Vick is easier than containing Tom Brady?? Vick runs the ball like Barry Sanders and throws the ball like Steve Young. Dude's numbers are absolutely ridiculous on the season (340 yards per game, nearly 3 touchdowns per game, 106 QB Rating). Ask Bears defenders and every one of them will tell you that defending Mike Vick is the toughest task in all of football right now



2)The eagles average more points and WAY more yards per game with Vick than the Patriots. And you talk about the Patriots weapons?? The Eagles have 2 receivers and a running back who all run a 4.3 40. The Eagles have the most talented set of skill players in the league



3)this discussion here is not a straight up bet discussion. Personally I (and lots of people) think that the Bears are gonna win this game... but the line is about 3 (should be around 4 by gametime) for the bears, so they could very easily lose the game and still cover. Can you really trust any team to go into Soldier field in december and win by more than a field goal against this defense?

[Redchevy]

1)You really think that containing Mike Vick is easier than containing Tom Brady?? Vick runs the ball like Barry Sanders and throws the ball like Steve Young. Dude's numbers are absolutely ridiculous on the season (340 yards per game, nearly 3 touchdowns per game, 106 QB Rating). Ask Bears defenders and every one of them will tell you that defending Mike Vick is the toughest task in all of football right now



2)The eagles average more points and WAY more yards per game with Vick than the Patriots. And you talk about the Patriots weapons?? The Eagles have 2 receivers and a running back who all run a 4.3 40. The Eagles have the most talented set of skill players in the league



3)this discussion here is not a straight up bet discussion. Personally I (and lots of people) think that the Bears are gonna win this game... but the line is about 3 (should be around 4 by gametime) for the bears, so they could very easily lose the game and still cover. Can you really trust any team to go into Soldier field in december and win by more than a field goal against this defense?

Answer to number 3: Absolutely, Brady can blow this defense out. And if the Bears are so good, why are they home dogs????????


Answer to number 2: The Eagles play in the much inferior NFC, in my opinion.


Answer to number 1: Yes, Vick is the best running QB in the NFL and very hard to contain. However, Brady doesn't run, he's going to shove the ball right down the Bears throat with his arm.

Again, as I said, anything can happen. Just lay it on the Bears if your so confident. My money is on NE, that's all and what I think of this game.

PS, if this game were in NE a couple of weeks ago, NE would light this Team up like a Christmas Tree!!!!

[brahmabull117]

Answer to number 3: Absolutely, Brady can blow this defense out. And if the Bears are so good, why are they home dogs????????

because the media loves to gobble on Brady's cock. The bears were home dogs to the eagles too

Answer to number 1: Yes, Vick is the best running QB in the NFL and very hard to contain. However, Brady doesn't run, he's going to shove the ball right down the Bears throat with his arm.

yea and Vick can't throw the ball at all with his 300 passing yards per game and 106 QB rating

[Redchevy]

because the media loves to gobble on Brady's cock. The bears were home dogs to the eagles too



yea and Vick can't throw the ball at all with his 300 passing yards per game and 106 QB rating

Here's your misconception IMO, put Vick in the AFC with a tough schedule and his numbers would drop considerably. If you think the Bears are that good because they beat Vick, that's your perogative. I'm not here to argue, you already know what I think of the game. If you're so confident in the Bears, just man-up and lay it down. It's like you are here looking for confirmation in what you're doing. My money says NE brings it to the table this week, you obviously think otherwise, good for you, just lay the cash and be done with it.

[brahmabull117]

Here's your misconception IMO, put Vick in the AFC with a tough schedule and his numbers would drop considerably. If you think the Bears are that good because they beat Vick, that's your perogative. I'm not here to argue, you already know what I think of the game. If you're so confident in the Bears, just man-up and lay it down. It's like like you are here looking for confirmation in what you're doing. My money says NE brings it to the table this week, you obviously think otherwise, good for you, just lay the cash and be done with it.

what is this AFC is stronger than NFC crap??

AFC is a little bit more top heavy but the NFC has more quality teams (6 legit teams that could all win the superbowl compared to 3 or 4 in the AFC). Not to mention the majority of the best defenses in the league play in the NFC (packers, bears, giants, etc...)


Vick would likely have better numbers in the AFC facing mediocre defenses like the colts and patriots

[Redchevy]

what is this AFC is stronger than NFC crap??

AFC is a little bit more top heavy but the NFC has more quality teams (6 legit teams that could all win the superbowl compared to 3 or 4 in the AFC). Not to mention the majority of the best defenses in the league play in the NFC (packers, bears, giants, etc...)


Vick would likely have better numbers in the AFC facing mediocre defenses like the colts and patriots

Like I said, if you're so confident in your play, just lay the cash and be done with it. My money is just that, my money, and I wouldn't put money on Cutler with a gun to my head. My money says NE brings the house and kicks the shit out of the Bears, if I lose, so be it, but I stand by my conviction. I just can't bet cold green cash on a shitty QB. It's very simple, you either have the balls to bet the game or you don't. Pick a side and roll with it. There's no in between, good luck with your play!!!!

PS, the Super Bowl winner will be from the AFC, you are NFC delusional, just my opinion!!!!!!!!!!!!

[brahmabull117]

I just can't bet cold green cash on a shitty QB.

jay cutler has a better QB rating than Peyton manning

in fact, take away the washington game, and Jay Cutler has about a 98 QB rating on the season

[Redchevy]

jay cutler has a better QB rating than Peyton manning

in fact, take away the washington game, and Jay Cutler has about a 98 QB rating on the season

PS, point made, Manning sucks this year!! And that still means nothing. I don't really care what Cutler has for a rating, as far as I'm concerned, he's not even in the same conversation with Brady. If Cutler has one of those magical days, good for him, he can go to Disneyland. I just don't see it. Brady will play much better in that horrific winter weather that is forecast. He's money in bad weather!!! JMO

PS, did you watch Brady lay 60+ on Tenn. last December in a blinding storm? Just wondering?

[brahmabull117]

If Cutler has one of those magical days, good for him, he can go to Disneyland. I just don't see it.

magical days??

jay has had 110+ QB rating in 2 straight games


stop with this "jay cutler sucks" nonsense people. Jay has been a very consistent and very solid QB all season long outside of 1 small 2 game stretch

[Redchevy]

magical days??

jay has had 110+ QB rating in 2 straight games


stop with this "jay cutler sucks" nonsense people. Jay has been a very consistent and very solid QB all season long outside of 1 small 2 game stretch

Wow, 110 for "2" straight games!!! Good for Jay, if you're sold, bet the house on him then!!!!!! Good luck!!!!!!

[Redchevy]

Hey Brahma, I'm done here, this is just my take on what I think will happen. Stats, history, all the other BS means nothing. I just think Brady and NE get the job done!! Good luck with your play!!!

[d2bets]

Two reasons... First they are calling for -4 windchill and 28 mph winds at gametime.

The second reason has to do with the field... it's being re-sodded after they played a bunch of high school games the past week @ soldier. Anyone that knows grass understands that early December is not the best time to put down new sod.

I feel like the under is def. the sharp play here.

It was the sharp play at 44 or 43, maybe not so much at 37.5. If it hits 36.5 I'm going over and not looking back.

[d2bets]

magical days??

jay has had 110+ QB rating in 2 straight games


stop with this "jay cutler sucks" nonsense people. Jay has been a very consistent and very solid QB all season long outside of 1 small 2 game stretch

Or how about 102.6 over the last 5 games? 5 games coincides with the Return of OG Roberta Garza and the Bears having the O-Line lineup settled. It's still not a great line, J'Marcus Webb is still learning, but it's a whole lot better and very different lineup-wise than what people saw early in the season.

Jay Cutler is so much better than most people give him credit for.

[blackbox]

Waiting till kickoff to see the conditions-great game to avoid right now.

[FilletMaster]

was thinking the same thing... reminds me of pats/browns weeks ago..

[raiders32]

I like the Patriots to cover.

[GimpedMaster]

Should be a great game, can't wait to see that stupid look on Cutler's face

This, it's going to be the highlight of my weekend.

[PlatinumBerg]

People have been hammering the Patriots, but the line has remained stationary at +3 Bears.

[walshy83]

Pats by at least 3.5, give me a break here. People actually think Cutler the bitch will beat the Pats. He may get yards, with our secondary....but final score will be with the Pats up on top!

[dolphinvann]

Weather calling for 30 mph windgusts, rain/snow mix. Fieldgoals will most likely come few and far between. Just FYI. That under has been pounded down to 38 at some sites.

[Lockitup1x]

magical days??

jay has had 110+ QB rating in 2 straight games


stop with this "jay cutler sucks" nonsense people. Jay has been a very consistent and very solid QB all season long outside of 1 small 2 game stretch

This game is going to be decided by defense and special teams... I'll take the motivated Bears at home getting points against the Pats who only need to win one more game and they are in. Fortunately for the Bears, this game is not about Cutler vs. Brady.

[KingJIM]

Line is getting bet down on Bears. Bears were +150ish and now is down to +133 on Bears. Total got hammered down because of weather from 41 to 37.5. Starting LB Spikes for Pats got suspended for rest of year but they have a guy that started 4 games to fill in.

This game has to come down to turnovers with the weather conditions. Bears are very opportunistic but Brady is very stingy. Bears might be able to get a few forced fumbles out but Cutler has to continue to be a good game manager and not a gun slinger. Running game is going to be very important and the Bears have 2nd best run defense and their run offense is improving since going to a more balanced offensive game plan.

[Hilljacademics]

Ur joking right?

The bears defense is unbelievable and this game is in soldier field. Jay cutler has a 110 qb rating last 5 games and that offense has been very productive


New England is gonna be in for an absolute war in this game.... If u think this will be an easy win, u are out of your mind

I do agree with the war talk, but I still like NE -3

[Augustus]

Bears are very opportunistic but Brady is very stingy. Bears might be able to get a few forced fumbles out ...

Bears played Giants(2.58, 32), Panthers(2.5, 30), Vikings(2.42, 29), Cowboys(2, 26), Bills(2, 25), Seahawks(1.83, 21), Redskins(1.83, 20), Lions(1.75, 17)... Because of these crap teams, the Bears have 2.17 forced Turn-Over per game and are ranked no. 4 in NFL. The Bears have 1.92 T.O. per game, ranked no. 23. The Patriots have 0.75 T.O. per game, tie-with the Chiefs for the no. 1. and 1.92 forced T.O. per game (Rank No. 7).

Who do you think will win the turn over game?

[LV420]

This game screams pats let down. Traveling on a short week after a emotional blow out win over there shit talking division rivals. The bears d is much different then the jets was they won't be bringing everybody on every play they play more coverage and let there front 4 bring pressure. As much as I don't like cutler he should have a great game against a awful pats secondary. Bears + 3.5 for me.

[SimonSayz]

Look at what just happened at Pinny....I am all over Chicago:

12/11 09:55 -3 +113 / +3 -122
12/11 09:56 -3 +114 / +3 -123
12/11 10:32 -1½ -120 / +1½ +111
12/11 10:34 -1 -121 / +1 +112

[playboy_1]

People have been hammering the Patriots, but the line has remained stationary at +3 Bears.

thats what you think...

[FOOTBALLER18]

I think its a trap game bears might win this one

[McBa1n]

Check out the weather forecast before you make a play.
It should be a pretty tight game with predicted 20-50 mph winds and freezing temperatures.
I think you have to give Brady an edge in any game with bad weather - but ignore that win against the Jets.

[KingJIM]

Bears played Giants(2.58, 32), Panthers(2.5, 30), Vikings(2.42, 29), Cowboys(2, 26), Bills(2, 25), Seahawks(1.83, 21), Redskins(1.83, 20), Lions(1.75, 17)... Because of these crap teams, the Bears have 2.17 forced Turn-Over per game and are ranked no. 4 in NFL. The Bears have 1.92 T.O. per game, ranked no. 23. The Patriots have 0.75 T.O. per game, tie-with the Chiefs for the no. 1. and 1.92 forced T.O. per game (Rank No. 7).

Who do you think will win the turn over game?

Not sure but your stats sure don't swing my opinion either way. Brady doesn't throw picks and I stated that. But I said forced fumbles on runners with the ball could happen for the Bears who are very adept at them.

Get back to me with those stats.