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  • thefuture
    SBR High Roller
    • 11-17-09
    • 150

    #36
    Originally posted by TPowell
    This seems crazy, I know Nannee (sp) and Floyd are both out, but listen to this. In SD's 4 losses, they've allowed 16 sacks. New England is near the VERY bottom of the NFL in sacks. New England won't be able to stop Rivers from picking that WEAK secondary apart. The Chargers are a VERY good defensive team. They allow around 90 yards rushing per game which isn't terrible. The stunner is that they only allow around 160 passing yards a game. They haven't faced a QB like Brady, but they have been very solid so far this season in the 6 games they've played. The last 2 games have been total FLUKES. Oakland scored 16 points off special teams/defense and St Louis sacked Rivers 7 times. I don't see either of these happening against New England. They've covered the spread in their first 2 home games by an average of 20 points! Fade the public and roll with the Bolts in a must-win situation
    Call me crazy but doesn't the patriots have one of the best special team units in football? Aren't the chargers one of the worst in the NFL? I'm not saying I'm just saying.....
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    • WvGambler
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 04-19-10
      • 11618

      #37
      Originally posted by TPowell
      This seems crazy, I know Nannee (sp) and Floyd are both out, but listen to this. In SD's 4 losses, they've allowed 16 sacks. New England is near the VERY bottom of the NFL in sacks. New England won't be able to stop Rivers from picking that WEAK secondary apart. The Chargers are a VERY good defensive team. They allow around 90 yards rushing per game which isn't terrible. The stunner is that they only allow around 160 passing yards a game. They haven't faced a QB like Brady, but they have been very solid so far this season in the 6 games they've played. The last 2 games have been total FLUKES. Oakland scored 16 points off special teams/defense and St Louis sacked Rivers 7 times. I don't see either of these happening against New England. They've covered the spread in their first 2 home games by an average of 20 points! Fade the public and roll with the Bolts in a must-win situation
      The Chargers are so bad at protecting the QB that the Patriots will be able to rush Rivers. Phillip Rivers is talented but he is a whiny bitch who doesnt win big games. He is the guy that everyone claims Tony Romo is.
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      • ttrace35
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-30-10
        • 10828

        #38
        Originally posted by 4TH AND STUPID
        i'll bet you your 110 sbr points at +120 odds that i have a winning weekend. put your money where your mouth is lets do this bud. if i have a losing weekend i'll give 1.2 x 110 points. if i have a winning weekend you give me your 110 points.

        pointspreads only. you pick how many games you want me to pick. if you can see me losing money you'll take me up on this bet.

        I'm a grown man. I don't even know what is SBR points are. The only person I am betting is my bookie. Don't get mad at me because you don't know what your talking about. Stop posting falsehoods in this forum. Get your facts straights. And your that same as*hole from last week with that dumb post about the titans. Grow up.
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        • castle
          SBR Sharp
          • 10-04-10
          • 344

          #39
          Originally posted by ttrace35
          I'm a grown man. I don't even know what is SBR points are
          I'll take those 110 SBR points then. Go ahead and click the gold coin below this post and give 'em up then!
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          • ttrace35
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 09-30-10
            • 10828

            #40
            Originally posted by castle
            I'll take those 110 SBR points then. Go ahead and click the gold coin below this post and give 'em up then!
            This is between me and the titan punk. I don't even know why mad at me. Dummy posts that indy covered the spread last week by a mile. Maybe was watching CFL. I didn't ask for any SBR points. I come to this forum to get insight on upcoming games. If somebody is posting lies I'm going to check it. End of story.
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            • Sam Odom
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-30-05
              • 58063

              #41
              No opinion... I'm a Raiders Fan now
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              • 4TH AND STUPID
                SBR MVP
                • 08-08-09
                • 2349

                #42
                Originally posted by ttrace35
                This is between me and the titan punk. I don't even know why mad at me. Dummy posts that indy covered the spread last week by a mile. Maybe was watching CFL. I didn't ask for any SBR points. I come to this forum to get insight on upcoming games. If somebody is posting lies I'm going to check it. End of story.




                FIRST OF ALL, arent you the same guy who was bashing me because i predicted the titans to win 26-17 over the jaguars and you felt that my prediction was off because the final score was 30-3 titans? apparently my margin of victory wasnt good enough for you?


                SECOND OF ALL, as for the indy game, you are correct i accidently said they covered but it was a push. sorry mr perfect. HOWEVER the point remains the same > just because 70% of the public is on a line and the line doesnt move, DOESNT always mean that fading the public will result in a win. i used indy and tennessee from last week as an example.

                THIRD OF ALL there is no indy in the CFL , and your joke is an epic fail. i know you're still upset about all the money you lost on the jags game, but seriously bruh.. you still hatin on me cause of that?
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                • ttrace35
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 09-30-10
                  • 10828

                  #43
                  Originally posted by 4TH AND STUPID
                  FIRST OF ALL, arent you the same guy who was bashing me because i predicted the titans to win 26-17 over the jaguars and you felt that my prediction was off because the final score was 30-3 titans? apparently my margin of victory wasnt good enough for you?


                  SECOND OF ALL, as for the indy game, you are correct i accidently said they covered but it was a push. sorry mr perfect. HOWEVER the point remains the same > just because 70% of the public is on a line and the line doesnt move, DOESNT always mean that fading the public will result in a win. i used indy and tennessee from last week as an example.

                  THIRD OF ALL there is no indy in the CFL , and your joke is an epic fail. i know you're still upset about all the money you lost on the jags game, but seriously bruh.. you still hatin on me cause of that?

                  I had the titans and the under. I posted my winning parlay ticket from THEGREEK last week. I took offense to your calling anyone who took the jags as dumb. Of course you did this after the game was 20-0. I haven't seen you post any winning or losing tickets. I'm not wasting anymore time on you, kid. Go out and play now.
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                  • james4512
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-27-08
                    • 3707

                    #44
                    at this rate the pats will be 3 point favorites by kickoff. i would completely understand your logic if the line stayed at +3 but its dropping everywhere
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                    • navyhawk
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 05-08-10
                      • 184

                      #45
                      chargers are sad
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                      • ParlayJunkie
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 08-06-10
                        • 689

                        #46
                        Chargers are missing to many weapons. Hopefully Crayton steps it up. If I were to play one it would be Chargers though. GL
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                        • officepoolguy
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 07-19-10
                          • 384

                          #47
                          Originally posted by rsnnh12
                          Completely disagree with you here. Who is Rivers gonna throw to? Gates is banged up, you mentioned the 1 and 2 receivers being out, and his top 2 targets (other than Gates) are going to be Patrick Crayton and Buster Davis. The NE secondary isn't bad enough to let those 2 jokers burn them. Ryan Matthews is nursing an injury as well. I just don't see a team missing its top 3 WRs and having its TE and RB less than 100% beating the Pats.

                          As far as home field advantage, the Chargers played the Cardinals and Jaguars at home.... needless to say, they are nowhere near the Pats level. I think a big reason for the Chargers looking good for defensive numbers is because they have yet to face a good offense. Cards, Jags, Raiders, Rams, Chiefs, and Seahawks.... Pats are ranked #1 in ppg (at 30.8), and the highest of the Chargers opponents is 14th (Chiefs at 21.6). The 2 teams they beat are ranked 23rd and 25th.

                          This is River's let-down game IMO. He can't keep putting up 300 yards every game, especially when he has no one to throw to. If they were healthy, I would stay away from this game, but the Chargers are just too banged up to pull out the win. Pats win by at least a TD, and probably more.
                          Completely agree...San Diego is 2-4 as has played no team that I would put in the top 20 in the NFL...that is why they are ranked so high offensively and defensively. Vegas knows people look at those numbers but do not look at who they play. They do not deserve to be favored here especially with the injuries they have.
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                          • ForTheMoment
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 09-10-10
                            • 62

                            #48



                            complete idiot. Pats blow em out
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                            • CaptainPrice
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-29-09
                              • 1064

                              #49
                              just kidding they gonna lose
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                              • hitman2010
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-03-10
                                • 1465

                                #50
                                castle, what is your signature? what streak 4-0.
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                                • Glitch
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-08-09
                                  • 11795

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by TPowell
                                  This seems crazy, I know Nannee (sp) and Floyd are both out, but listen to this. In SD's 4 losses, they've allowed 16 sacks. New England is near the VERY bottom of the NFL in sacks. New England won't be able to stop Rivers from picking that WEAK secondary apart. The Chargers are a VERY good defensive team. They allow around 90 yards rushing per game which isn't terrible. The stunner is that they only allow around 160 passing yards a game. They haven't faced a QB like Brady, but they have been very solid so far this season in the 6 games they've played. The last 2 games have been total FLUKES. Oakland scored 16 points off special teams/defense and St Louis sacked Rivers 7 times. I don't see either of these happening against New England. They've covered the spread in their first 2 home games by an average of 20 points! Fade the public and roll with the Bolts in a must-win situation
                                  really strongly agree and am very very much regretting my pats bets. not sure if i should let em ride or erase it and eat the juice.
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                                  • GunShard
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-05-10
                                    • 10032

                                    #52
                                    Remember, the only reason the Chargers look good statistically is because they fought the Rams, Raiders, Seahawks, Jags and Cardinals.

                                    Yea, power house teams....

                                    The only time the Patriots were dominated by the Chargers is when Matt Cassel was starting all season when Brady was injured.

                                    Patriots +3
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                                    • lakerboy
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 04-02-09
                                      • 94379

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by 4TH AND STUPID
                                      umm, last week indianapolis and tennessee were both favored by 3 and the line stayed put with over 75-80% of action on each and both teams covered by miles.

                                      you cant just blindly use that stat as a reason to pick san diego. capping involves a lot more than that bud.



                                      perhaps you MAY want to start with the injury report: malcolm floyd and legedu naanee are both out with injuries and gates will be playing a little hurt and the KICKER nick kaeding is out.

                                      those injuries alone would make you have to dig deep into this game before you think about capping .


                                      colts game pushed.
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                                      • lakerboy
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 04-02-09
                                        • 94379

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by james4512
                                        at this rate the pats will be 3 point favorites by kickoff. i would completely understand your logic if the line stayed at +3 but its dropping everywhere

                                        lol the pats wont be favored by kickoff. sure the line is dropping but not to the point where ne will be favored. LOL at 4 point swings on dogs turning to faves.
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                                        • DarkNite
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 10-12-09
                                          • 5023

                                          #55
                                          I really like Pats + because SD without good players, and I will not change my mind. This is the game, win or lose.
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                                          • Deuce
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 01-12-08
                                            • 29843

                                            #56
                                            Key to this game is if Mathews can finally get his head out of his ass and run the ball. NE gives up a lot of rushing yards. Time will tell.
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                                            • RageWizard
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-01-06
                                              • 3008

                                              #57
                                              I'm telling yous, take the over and forget about the side. For those of you hanging your hat on the S.D defense, take a look at the offenses they have come up against. K.C, OAK, SEA, STL, ARI, and JAC aren't exactly powerhouses of offense and in those games the total still went over 4-2 for the year. Look at the O/U totals for home games involving the Chargers since last year, 8 - 2 with only Oak, and MIA being able to stay under the number. This game flys over the total, don't worry about who going to throw to who, or whos run defense is going to stop whom, or how Brady got sick on the airplane from eatting bad shellfish, it just doesn't matter, go with the trend and take the over.
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                                              • Seth
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 07-02-10
                                                • 166

                                                #58
                                                I am a New England fan and always will be. But this game here is pretty easy to call: San Diego by at least 3. As stated earlier by someone, the best total defense and total offense in the league belongs to San Diego, only reason they haven't found themselves in the winning column is sacks, and what I believe to be a lack of a running game. This week will be different, they're at home and playing against the worst D in the league, my Pats. There's no way they continue the trend of sacking Rivers at the rate of which it's been happening. Secondly, I believe Matthews exploits this Pats D and runs up the score, not worried about Gates being out, San Diego's offense is still very powerful. I'll disagree with the public and call this my game of the week: SD-3.
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                                                • newjerseydevils
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 03-11-08
                                                  • 3110

                                                  #59
                                                  good luck..... hope san diego wins
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                                                  • Powerhaus
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                                                    • 04-25-10
                                                    • 322

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by bostonbruins
                                                    Got NE +10 in a teaser , can't see them losing by more than that if they do
                                                    I did the same exact thing, no way they lose by even more than 1-6 points, that is of course if they don't win outright!!!
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                                                    • Snowball
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 11-15-09
                                                      • 30064

                                                      #61
                                                      Over is the play
                                                      Rivers will get his TD's. Patriot secondary is still a work in progress
                                                      and they do not have an effective blitz package.
                                                      Pats also pass happy
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                                                      • KingJIM
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 06-25-09
                                                        • 757

                                                        #62
                                                        What do you over backers think now that it's up to 48.5? I was leaning towards it @ 47 but think its a no play now but I may look at tt as both teams should score into mid 20's.
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                                                        • Snowball
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 11-15-09
                                                          • 30064

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by KingJIM
                                                          What do you over backers think now that it's up to 48.5? I was leaning towards it @ 47 but think its a no play now but I may look at tt as both teams should score into mid 20's.
                                                          48.5 is not a pivot number. it's fine. 49, 51 are pivots.
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #64
                                                            SD wins this one easy

                                                            31-17
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                                                            • madmaxx
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-14-07
                                                              • 3289

                                                              #65
                                                              Mathews finally has the breakout game disgruntled Charger fans are waiting for. Sproles 200 all-purpose yards. Brady picked 3 times.

                                                              Chargers 34 Pats 23
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                                                              • CLASSIC ROCK
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 07-23-09
                                                                • 574

                                                                #66
                                                                lean to the chargers here,books always seem to love the pats
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                                                                • TooHottie
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                                                                  • 10-17-10
                                                                  • 42

                                                                  #67
                                                                  IMHO, I like the Pats big. Special teams mismatch is worth 7 points easy in this game.
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                                                                  • Jnas
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 08-26-10
                                                                    • 760

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Its a set up line. You would have to be crazy to take the Chargers. For that reason the Chargers win. Don't underestimate the cross country flight either.
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                                                                    • Bsters
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 11-16-09
                                                                      • 146

                                                                      #69
                                                                      San Diego has a lot in common with the Cowboys; they are overrated and underachievers. The teams are not as good as every one says they are, and Rivers and Romo are not top tier QBs. Patriots by 10.
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                                                                      • gtkid911
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-10-10
                                                                        • 1123

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Just seems like a lot of people here are on the Chargers, I was initially. I think i just might fade myself and the entire forum and go with the Pats plus the points. I think it'll be a lot more enjoyable and if the linemakers are right and it a last second field goal, then the pats are probably gonna cover this or at least push it.
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