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  • TPowell
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-21-08
    • 18842

    #1
    Guys, San Diego covers against NE
    This seems crazy, I know Nannee (sp) and Floyd are both out, but listen to this. In SD's 4 losses, they've allowed 16 sacks. New England is near the VERY bottom of the NFL in sacks. New England won't be able to stop Rivers from picking that WEAK secondary apart. The Chargers are a VERY good defensive team. They allow around 90 yards rushing per game which isn't terrible. The stunner is that they only allow around 160 passing yards a game. They haven't faced a QB like Brady, but they have been very solid so far this season in the 6 games they've played. The last 2 games have been total FLUKES. Oakland scored 16 points off special teams/defense and St Louis sacked Rivers 7 times. I don't see either of these happening against New England. They've covered the spread in their first 2 home games by an average of 20 points! Fade the public and roll with the Bolts in a must-win situation
  • icancount2one
    SBR MVP
    • 01-05-10
    • 1507

    #2
    Originally posted by TPowell
    This seems crazy, I know Nannee (sp) and Floyd are both out, but listen to this. In SD's 4 losses, they've allowed 16 sacks. New England is near the VERY bottom of the NFL in sacks. New England won't be able to stop Rivers from picking that WEAK secondary apart. The Chargers are a VERY good defensive team. They allow around 90 yards rushing per game which isn't terrible. The stunner is that they only allow around 160 passing yards a game. They haven't faced a QB like Brady, but they have been very solid so far this season in the 6 games they've played. The last 2 games have been total FLUKES. Oakland scored 16 points off special teams/defense and St Louis sacked Rivers 7 times. I don't see either of these happening against New England. They've covered the spread in their first 2 home games by an average of 20 points! Fade the public and roll with the Bolts in a must-win situation
    San Diego has dropped games to Oakland, Seattle, and St. Louis. They are not a powerhouse team, period.

    To paraphrase Brandon Phillips: I hate the New England Patriots. I am a Philly fan, and by comparison I love the Dallas Cowboys. Let me make one thing clear, I HATE the New England Patriots. However they are very likely to win this game and I would not be at all surprised if it was a total blowout.
    Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.
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    • rsnnh12
      SBR MVP
      • 09-26-10
      • 3487

      #3
      Completely disagree with you here. Who is Rivers gonna throw to? Gates is banged up, you mentioned the 1 and 2 receivers being out, and his top 2 targets (other than Gates) are going to be Patrick Crayton and Buster Davis. The NE secondary isn't bad enough to let those 2 jokers burn them. Ryan Matthews is nursing an injury as well. I just don't see a team missing its top 3 WRs and having its TE and RB less than 100% beating the Pats.

      As far as home field advantage, the Chargers played the Cardinals and Jaguars at home.... needless to say, they are nowhere near the Pats level. I think a big reason for the Chargers looking good for defensive numbers is because they have yet to face a good offense. Cards, Jags, Raiders, Rams, Chiefs, and Seahawks.... Pats are ranked #1 in ppg (at 30.8), and the highest of the Chargers opponents is 14th (Chiefs at 21.6). The 2 teams they beat are ranked 23rd and 25th.

      This is River's let-down game IMO. He can't keep putting up 300 yards every game, especially when he has no one to throw to. If they were healthy, I would stay away from this game, but the Chargers are just too banged up to pull out the win. Pats win by at least a TD, and probably more.
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      • uanl
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 10-10-09
        • 825

        #4
        Originally posted by TPowell
        This seems crazy, I know Nannee (sp) and Floyd are both out, but listen to this. In SD's 4 losses, they've allowed 16 sacks. New England is near the VERY bottom of the NFL in sacks. New England won't be able to stop Rivers from picking that WEAK secondary apart. The Chargers are a VERY good defensive team. They allow around 90 yards rushing per game which isn't terrible. The stunner is that they only allow around 160 passing yards a game. They haven't faced a QB like Brady, but they have been very solid so far this season in the 6 games they've played. The last 2 games have been total FLUKES. Oakland scored 16 points off special teams/defense and St Louis sacked Rivers 7 times. I don't see either of these happening against New England. They've covered the spread in their first 2 home games by an average of 20 points! Fade the public and roll with the Bolts in a must-win situation
        completely agree...no denying rivers and the offense, especially against the pat's weak defense...only thing that slightly worries me is that perhaps the chargers D isn't as good as the numbers say because they haven't faced a great offense yet..powerhouse of offenses hear, not sure how good the chargers D is, but it is definitely better than the patriots D....do people think that vegas didn't consider the injuries in the spread??? we would have seen the line move signifcantly already, or we would have seen the game off the board if vegas was worried about injuries..we haven't, so that means they already factored that in...looks like rain in San Diego for this game...and i rather take the run game of chargers vs the run game of the pats....patriots backers are in for a big surprise in this one imo ...
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        • rsnnh12
          SBR MVP
          • 09-26-10
          • 3487

          #5
          Originally posted by uanl
          completely agree...no denying rivers and the offense, especially against the pat's weak defense...only thing that slightly worries me is that perhaps the chargers D isn't as good as the numbers say because they haven't faced a great offense yet..powerhouse of offenses hear, not sure how good the chargers D is, but it is definitely better than the patriots D....do people think that vegas didn't consider the injuries in the spread??? we would have seen the line move signifcantly already, or we would have seen the game off the board if vegas was worried about injuries..we haven't, so that means they already factored that in...looks like rain in San Diego for this game...and i rather take the run game of chargers vs the run game of the pats....patriots backers are in for a big surprise in this one imo ...
          Rushing attempts- Pats 139, Chargers 161 (Pats have played 1 less game)

          Pats rushing YPG- 123.2
          Chargers- 116.5

          Pats YPC- 4.4
          Chargers- 4.3

          Pats rushing TDs- 4
          Chargers- 6

          Pats rushing fumbles- 0
          Chargers- 5

          Why exactly would you rather have the Chargers run game?

          Edit- And just for the hell of it, lets compare the teams they played-
          Chargers- Chiefs, Cardinals, Rams, Raiders, Seahawks, Jaguars
          Patriots- Bills, Dolphins, Bengals, Jets, Ravens
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          • TPowell
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-21-08
            • 18842

            #6
            guys, oddsmakers knew Patriots would get at least 65% of my bets placed on them with this line.
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            • aceking
              SBR MVP
              • 09-07-05
              • 4782

              #7
              Patriots by 7 .
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              • Foals
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-20-10
                • 857

                #8
                Originally posted by TPowell
                guys, oddsmakers knew Patriots would get at least 65% of my bets placed on them with this line.
                Exactly... public is walking into a trap with Pats getting a FG in San Diego. 70% of the action is on the Pats with the line staying put at 3 tells me that San Diego wins
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                • Fed_42420
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 11-12-09
                  • 976

                  #9
                  I like San Diego to win, they are better than what they have shown this year.
                  Its a trap game, Vegas knows San Diego will win here. They are setting up everyone, take SD.
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                  • NardVa
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 10-02-07
                    • 8325

                    #10
                    Can't trust the Chargers on the road but at home they play pretty good. I'm not sold on the Patriot's defense or their offense without Randy Moss. The Pats are 4-1 but they could easily be 2-3 if Miami didn't fall apart on special teams and if the Ravens didn't fall apart in the 4 quarter last week with a 10 pt lead.
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                    • TT77
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 12-19-09
                      • 219

                      #11
                      Originally posted by icancount2one
                      San Diego has dropped games to Oakland, Seattle, and St. Louis. They are not a powerhouse team, period.

                      To paraphrase Brandon Phillips: I hate the New England Patriots. I am a Philly fan, and by comparison I love the Dallas Cowboys. Let me make one thing clear, I HATE the New England Patriots. However they are very likely to win this game and I would not be at all surprised if it was a total blowout.
                      I stopped bothering with them after sea and oak
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                      • RibbedTrojan
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-12-09
                        • 1487

                        #12
                        S D is the play here. GL
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                        • KingJIM
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                          • 06-25-09
                          • 757

                          #13
                          Chargers lead the league in total defense, passing defense, total offense, and passing offense.
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                          • 4TH AND STUPID
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-08-09
                            • 2349

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Foals
                            Exactly... public is walking into a trap with Pats getting a FG in San Diego. 70% of the action is on the Pats with the line staying put at 3 tells me that San Diego wins



                            umm, last week indianapolis and tennessee were both favored by 3 and the line stayed put with over 75-80% of action on each and both teams covered by miles.

                            you cant just blindly use that stat as a reason to pick san diego. capping involves a lot more than that bud.



                            perhaps you MAY want to start with the injury report: malcolm floyd and legedu naanee are both out with injuries and gates will be playing a little hurt and the KICKER nick kaeding is out.

                            those injuries alone would make you have to dig deep into this game before you think about capping .
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                            • Wreckloose
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 06-05-10
                              • 618

                              #15
                              San Diego is a different team at home than on the road.
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                              • kickenchicken
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 09-17-10
                                • 430

                                #16
                                tommy boy will have to have a bad hair day
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                                • CHAZ
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-09-09
                                  • 4978

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Wreckloose
                                  San Diego is a different team at home than on the road.
                                  Healthy! They have been a great team at home over the years, but theres just to many injuries and problems on there plate right now. I think this is the year SD doesn't break out at the end of the season. Definitely, on there way down. By the way the only teams they beat at home so far this year is Jacksonville and ARI not even decent teams.


                                  With all the injuries at wide receiver I expect them to run the ball alot more, and against a team like NE you gotta be able to be balanced and to score fast.
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                                  • adlai
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 03-11-10
                                    • 778

                                    #18
                                    agree... there one of my 3 picks tomorrow.
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                                    • Pharieswheel
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 05-02-10
                                      • 360

                                      #19
                                      Will SAn diego cover, hell there going to win outright
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                                      • Dark Horse
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-14-05
                                        • 13764

                                        #20
                                        This is not a clash between football teams, but between football cultures.

                                        The Chargers culture is soft; half the time they'd rather be surfing. The Pats culture is no-nonsense. I'd take the Patriots, but will pass on the game, because the Chargers are already with their backs against the wall. There's always the chance that they underestimated their easy early schedule, and suddenly come ready to play now that they're facing some tougher opposition. I have a feeling that the Chargers may not be able to turn it around this season, as with their past strong finishes, but prefer to wait and see.
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                                        • Nomocino
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 08-11-09
                                          • 687

                                          #21
                                          I thought SD were locks against KC, SEA, OAK, and ST.L all were on the road, but wtf. Hope your correct in Rivers picking apart the NE secondary have him in Fantasy but tempted to start Big Ben instead
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                                          • 4TH AND STUPID
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-08-09
                                            • 2349

                                            #22
                                            heres a question for you san deigo lovers...


                                            what happens if san diego has to kick a game winning 45 yard field goal to cover the spread, with nick kaeding out?
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                                            • RageWizard
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-01-06
                                              • 3008

                                              #23
                                              I think this one is easy guys. Forget the side, and take the over. New England has gone over 4 -1 so far this year, and just barely missed going 5 -0 last week. San Diego has gone 4 -2 so far with the 2 unders going against teams with a good defense. Yes St. louis has a good defense. Take the Over 48, and forget about the side, it will probably be a scoring fest with the teams going back and forth. You don't need the stress, take the over and call in for a pizza at half time with your winnings.
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                                              • ttrace35
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 09-30-10
                                                • 10828

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by 4TH AND STUPID
                                                umm, last week indianapolis and tennessee were both favored by 3 and the line stayed put with over 75-80% of action on each and both teams covered by miles.

                                                you cant just blindly use that stat as a reason to pick san diego. capping involves a lot more than that bud.



                                                perhaps you MAY want to start with the injury report: malcolm floyd and legedu naanee are both out with injuries and gates will be playing a little hurt and the KICKER nick kaeding is out.

                                                those injuries alone would make you have to dig deep into this game before you think about capping .
                                                You have to pay more attention to what's going on stupid. Indy DIDN'T cover last week. I can see you losing a lot of money pal. Stop only watching titans games.
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                                                • 4TH AND STUPID
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-08-09
                                                  • 2349

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ttrace35
                                                  You have to pay more attention to what's going on stupid. Indy DIDN'T cover last week. I can see you losing a lot of money pal. Stop only watching titans games.


                                                  i'll bet you your 110 sbr points at +120 odds that i have a winning weekend. put your money where your mouth is lets do this bud. if i have a losing weekend i'll give 1.2 x 110 points. if i have a winning weekend you give me your 110 points.

                                                  pointspreads only. you pick how many games you want me to pick. if you can see me losing money you'll take me up on this bet.
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                                                  • rsnnh12
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-26-10
                                                    • 3487

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by 4TH AND STUPID
                                                    heres a question for you san deigo lovers...


                                                    what happens if san diego has to kick a game winning 45 yard field goal to cover the spread, with nick kaeding out?
                                                    Don't worry! Kris Brown will take care of the kicks!

                                                    Texans fans should remember him well.... the king of screwing up clutch moments
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                                                    • rockaflocka
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 08-07-10
                                                      • 482

                                                      #27
                                                      San Diego wins this (my biggest play of the weekend). They are a different team at home so beware
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                                                      • shaunovery
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                                                        • 11-15-07
                                                        • 18143

                                                        #28
                                                        Fancy San Diego as well they play well at home
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                                                        • B1GER1C828
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 07-31-07
                                                          • 10244

                                                          #29
                                                          bolts missing too many weapons on offense...i think pats pull this one out.

                                                          Pats defense improving each week, sd with no weapons especially if gates doesnt play as well. Pats is a solid play here.
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                                                          • dwang0725
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 09-23-10
                                                            • 330

                                                            #30
                                                            People are giving SD too much respect based on last year's stats. This year the team make-up is much different than last. New RB, new WRs and new defensive starters, but the same dumbass coach. The road trip out west for NE and their OT game last week are disconcerting, but I think they are a good enough team to take care of SD.
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                                                            • bostonbruins
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-02-08
                                                              • 3272

                                                              #31
                                                              Got NE +10 in a teaser , can't see them losing by more than that if they do
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                                                              • beerman2619
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 12-24-09
                                                                • 7752

                                                                #32
                                                                like the pats here by about 40
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                                                                • k13
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                                                                  • 07-16-10
                                                                  • 18104

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by 4TH AND STUPID
                                                                  umm, last week indianapolis and tennessee were both favored by 3 and the line stayed put with over 75-80% of action on each and both teams covered by miles.

                                                                  you cant just blindly use that stat as a reason to pick san diego. capping involves a lot more than that bud.



                                                                  perhaps you MAY want to start with the injury report: malcolm floyd and legedu naanee are both out with injuries and gates will be playing a little hurt and the KICKER nick kaeding is out.

                                                                  those injuries alone would make you have to dig deep into this game before you think about capping .
                                                                  Indy covered by miles? You mean a push is a mile....
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                                                                  • k13
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 07-16-10
                                                                    • 18104

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by 4TH AND STUPID
                                                                    i'll bet you your 110 sbr points at +120 odds that i have a winning weekend. put your money where your mouth is lets do this bud. if i have a losing weekend i'll give 1.2 x 110 points. if i have a winning weekend you give me your 110 points.

                                                                    pointspreads only. you pick how many games you want me to pick. if you can see me losing money you'll take me up on this bet.
                                                                    I'll bet 110 points at +120 or whatever odds at picking this sunday. 10 games, spreads/sides only.

                                                                    Me vs You
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                                                                    • castle
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 10-04-10
                                                                      • 344

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by KingJIM
                                                                      Chargers lead the league in total defense, passing defense, total offense, and passing offense.
                                                                      That seems to be working out for them.
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