Early Raiders/49ers Thoughts

LostBankroll · 10-12-10, 08:56 AM

No way SF wins by 7. Raiders defense is underated I dont care what they rank in rushing and passing d. I watched Campbell play decent ball here in Washington and this is coming from a Cowboys fan. Oakland much better this year than last in my opinion. McFadden wont play but can Michael Bush and Fargas run on SF enough to set up Campbell for the long ball? I think so. I wouldnt be shocked if Oakland gets the straight up win here. Oakland + the points.

305GURU · 10-12-10, 08:59 AM

6.5 is too much and not cause im a die hard raider...cause these teams get up for this game whenever it comes around and its usually a close one....the 49ers are really inconsistent and both teams have penalty problems. The raider D imo is starting to look solid so ill take those points GL

Casperwaits · 10-12-10, 09:02 AM

Yeah, I think this line is high as well, and that's why I am all over San Fran. When it looks to good, it usually is tends to be law in NFL betting.

305GURU · 10-12-10, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by LostBankroll

No way SF wins by 7. Raiders defense is underated I dont care what they rank in rushing and passing d. I watched Campbell play decent ball here in Washington and this is coming from a Cowboys fan. Oakland much better this year than last in my opinion. McFadden wont play but can Michael Bush and Fargas run on SF enough to set up Campbell for the long ball? I think so. I wouldnt be shocked if Oakland gets the straight up win here. Oakland + the points.

Fargas isnt on the roster and mcfadden and schilenz should play in this game...also big john henderson should suit up from missing last week...oakland all day in the battle of the bay...haha 29-20

305GURU · 10-12-10, 09:11 AM

Like the over here oak is avg near 20 points a game and both teams should be able to drive the ball down the field..

big0mar · 10-12-10, 09:45 AM

Like sheep to a slaughter.

JerseyLove · 10-12-10, 09:51 AM

Oh boy this is going to be a big one

thebestthereis · 10-12-10, 09:53 AM

if the 49ers lose this game they have to fire singletary for principle alone

big0mar · 10-12-10, 10:01 AM

Question: How many Raider games have people watched? Entire games.

HenPrivilege · 10-12-10, 10:04 AM

Don't bet on this shit

2 garbage teams

This has backdoor cover written all over it.. like a pick 6 favre special

Silverbullet · 10-12-10, 10:07 AM

Raiders +6 1/2 and over..........49ers need a new coach

jjgold · 10-12-10, 10:16 AM

Common good write up but it's a pure guess like any game. Laying and points with SF is crazy.

MarlinsFan2212 · 10-12-10, 10:23 AM

Raiders cover 6.5.

k13 · 10-12-10, 11:19 AM

This is where the public will be all over the raiders because its just too many points....

Hope they all get ******.

JayTrotter · 10-12-10, 11:31 AM

oakland had a big win last week.

I wonder what the odds are that the 49ers make the playoffs. It would certainly be unprecedented if they did it.

alex81 · 10-12-10, 11:48 AM

I think this should be an OVER.

aluvium · 10-12-10, 12:05 PM

How could anyone take the Niners after watching them play this year? They have been awful.

gshock1 · 10-12-10, 12:11 PM

49ers in a blowout. Books are inviting Raider action here and the pubes appear to be biting - 75% of the action is on Oakland, yet the line hasn't moved one bit.

Raiders are due for a HUGE letdown after the win in SD and generally play terribly on the road. 9ers appeared to be clicking towards the end of the Eagles game - a little too late.

Dark Horse · 10-12-10, 12:20 PM

Raiders showed resilience by coming back from a 15-24 deficit late in the SD game. That means something (they had also showed resilience in the Arizona road game, which they should have won; missed last second FG chip shot). Niners may play tough in the media, but they roll over at the first sign of trouble. Not because they're not tough, but because they're dumb. A 0-5 team and people still believe in them. lol Their own crowd will start booing them again when things don't go their way.

gshock1 · 10-12-10, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by Dark Horse;6830***

Raiders showed resilience by coming back from a 15-24 deficit late in the SD game. That means something. Niners may play tough in the media, but they roll over at the first sign of trouble. Not because they're not tough, but because they're dumb. A 0-5 team and people still believe in them. lol

Books are inviting Raider action. I see this similar to the Lions - Rams game last week. You can search and find my thread on that one in this forum. I was ridiculed for that one but didn't break a sweat. I see a 10 point win here.

Dark Horse · 10-12-10, 01:03 PM

Hey, that changes everything. I didn't know you were such an expert. You actually won a bet.

gshock1 · 10-12-10, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

Hey, that changes everything. I didn't know you were such an expert. You actually won a bet.

I'm not saying that I was an "expert". I'm hitting about 65% on the NFL this year and this one stands out to me. My two biggest plays of the year won hands down - Lions - 3 vs. Rams and Denver -3.5 vs. Seattle.

The writing is on the wall - the Oddsmakers set an absurd line and the public is biting. That's all. Just be prepared for a huge letdown by the Raiders.

borednaz · 10-12-10, 01:19 PM

49's got to win one right? One.. I'll give this a boner of the week bet of $5. I think it was Brock Landers(?) who put it best on a different thread for a different game "Bet on this game? Hell I coudln't even watch it".

Dark Horse · 10-12-10, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by gshock1

The writing is on the wall - the Oddsmakers set an absurd line and the public is biting. That's all. Just be prepared for a huge letdown by the Raiders.

It's possible. But if you want to go all 'motivational', surely the Niners don't have the edge. They're struggling big time with the realization that they're not going anywhere this season, after imagining themselves on the verge of greatness. If things don't go their way, they'll hang their heads. As they did in game 1 in Seattle. The air is out of the balloon already. One problem is that the Niners don't have any real leadership on the field. They have a lot of hot shot types, big egos without a clue how to gel as a team. Not so for the Raiders. Raiders have very experienced Seymour to keep them grounded.

k13 · 10-12-10, 01:31 PM

If campbell is starting the whole game then I'm putting the niners in a teaser at least.

we'll see where this line goes,

DeLaSalle98 · 10-12-10, 11:50 PM

I don't post hear much but thought I would chime in on this one. I am a Raiders season tix holder(don't laugh) and have been over the past 5 years. Even though I'm a Raiders fan I tend to bet w/o my heart, and take a more realistic approach using the stats and my own research from watching games. I have previous Pac-10 coaching experience and have worked in College and pro football, my last stint ending last February.

I hardly ever bet, and when I do i maybe win 2/3 of them. I am not betting this game, b/c i just don't feel comfortable with either team.

The Raiders are playing with house money per say since they just snapped losing streak with SD. One thing this team has showed over the past year is that they know how to fight( insert Tom Cable Randy Hanson joke). This team is not the best or brightest, but they fight. Even if DMAC plays, he will be a step slow. Bush can handle the majority of the load and Rock Cartwright is almost adequate. The Raiders will also use Marcel Reese on some downs and the kid has a gear that doesn't get used often out of the back field or in the flat.

The offesnive line is the big question mark. The left side is a lot stronger than the right. The 49ers will get to the QB however.

I think this game comes down to Alex Smith though. Gore is having a pedestrian season and there just not getting it done when they get him the ball, and Westbrook hardly plays. I don't think Gore can carry the load anymore by himself. Smith will be forced to pass and we all know what that looks like.

You also have to look at SF's locker room. They are decimated. Takeo Spikes in post game told one anchor that Coach Sing can't say anything else at this point. We also know that V. Davis and Crabtree have issues with each other, and we all know what bad blood mixed with a loosing atmosphere creates. Coach Sing also may have lost his team when he told Smith he would sit and bring in Carr, which he admitted to doing. And he can't explain why Carr never went in, and neither are saying anything to the media. It was addressed as a "private" matter. As of yesterdays press conference, Sing still hadn't talked to Carr either.

The minute things go wrong for SF (if they do on Sunday) I doubt they will be able recover. They will have a lame duck head coach and QB.

I really think this game comes down to special teams. Janikowski's leg vs SF's KO & Punt return teams. SF is -12 in the t/o margin and Oak is @ 0
The Play propensity ydg is almost equal with SF having a fractional edge.

Thanks for allowing me to rattle this off and I wish you all the best this week and the rest of the season.

King Mayan · 10-13-10, 01:00 AM

9ers!!

marcoloco · 10-13-10, 02:02 AM

early lean on raiders to cover & over. should be a tuff game, think both teams break 20 points

cankid · 10-13-10, 02:57 AM

sf last in the league in turnovers at -10, haven t won a game, look like crap, hang a -6.5, goes against most of my capping stats....etc..... but im still leaning SF.........Oak special teams were lights out, they(SD) were almost 2-1 in yrds (SD) and 2-1 in first downs.....Oak had no turnovers last week, lines seems to want Oak money and perception SF will break out....I think they win and cover this week, yikes!!

8ArIvd5 · 10-13-10, 03:49 AM

SF covers this one if and only if they call a player meeting and decide to strike if Coach Sing isn't demoted.

GunShard · 10-13-10, 03:53 AM

Raiders +6 or no play.

Robust · 10-13-10, 03:56 AM

tease the raiders 6.5 or 7pts.. or no play..

the public knows that if a team wins by a TD, they won by 7... yet Vegas puts a line of 6.5 up.. Vegas is soooo generous... lol

trap..

you might wanna go small on Raiders ML for fun if you HAVE to make a bet on this game (or better.. tease like stated above)..

Robust

jedikarl · 10-13-10, 03:57 AM

it amazes me why people continue to back the 49ers they are 0-5 and my friend they are 0-5 for a reason...
the reason is they are crap and they are in total turmoil how on earth can you expect them to beat a side who beat the chargers last week let alone give them a 6.5 start

wquine · 10-13-10, 05:19 AM

49ers roll in this one.