How bad are the NFL QB's

[3PtShooter]

Manning, Brady only quality QB's

a few average QB's,,,, the rest are terrible,, never in the history of the NFL have the QB's been so bad

[ngates815]

Manning and Brady are the only 2 that stick out as Great QB's.


Half of the teams are starting absolutely terrible QB's.

[GiveMeaBJ]

Peyton Manning is the only legendary QB playing right now at a legendary level.

Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, and Tom Brady are the great QB's.

Brett Favre and Donovan McNabb are the washed up superstars.

Ben Rothlesberger is the winner who benefits from his team and won't get as much credit.

Matt Schaub, Kyle Orton, Tony Romo, and Philip Rivers, are the guys who will put up big numbers but never win.

Eli Manning, Jay Cutler, and Matt Ryan are the hit or miss guys. Could be great, could throw 4 picks or both.

Mark Sanchez, Chad Henne, Joe Flacco, and Matt Cassell are the game managers who benefit from strong run games and defenses.

Matt Hasslebeck is the washed up, career long, average QB. Guess what? He is till average.

Carson Palmer is the overrated guy who is still making his name off of one good year.

Jake Delhomme is the head case who can scare you when he is hot.

Vince Young, David Garrard, and Mike Vick are the black quarterbacks who will never get any credit.

Sam Bradford, Josh Freeman, and Kevin Kolb are the high draft picks who have shown NFL ability but haven't taken the leap yet.

Alex Smith and Matt Stafford are the high picks who would have gone much later if they re-drafted.

Ryan Fitzpatrick, Bruce Gradkowski, Jason Campbell, and Shaun Hill are the guys who we know are bad but are capable of winning a few games.

Seneca Wallace, Matt Moore, and Derek Anderson are the bottom dwellers who will only be starters for bad teams and back ups for good teams.

[BIGDAY]

Peyton Manning Manning is the only legendary QB playing right now at a legendary level.

Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, and Tom Brady are the great QB's.

Brett Favre and Donovan McNabb are the washed up superstars.

Ben Rothlesberger is the winner who benefits from his team and won't get as much credit.

Matt Schaub, Kyle Orton, Tony Romo, and Philip Rivers, are the guys who will put up big numbers but never win.

Eli Manning, Jay Cutler, and Matt Ryan are the hit or miss guys. Could be great, could throw 4 picks or both.

Mark Sanchez, Chad Henne, Joe Flacco, and Matt Cassell are the game managers who benefit from strong run games and defenses.

Carson Palmer is the overrated guy who is still making his name off of one good year.

Jake Delhomme is the head case who can scare you when he is hot.

Vince Young, David Garrard, and Mike Vick are the black quarterbacks who will never get any credit.

Sam Bradford, Josh Freeman, and Kevin Kolb are the high draft picks who have shown NFL ability but haven't taken the leap yet.

Alex Smith and Matt Stafford are the high picks who would have gone much later if they re-drafted.

Ryan Fitzpatrick, Bruce Gradkowski, Jason Campbell, Shaun Hill, and Derek Anderson are the guys who we know are bad but are capable of winning a few games.

Seneca Wallace, Matt Moore, and Derek Anderson are the bottom dwellers who will only be starters for bad teams and back ups for good teams.

WHAT HE SAID... That was about perfect!

[crustyme]

Funny cause Peyton was being booed off the field against KC. He was absolutely horrid and only won cause KC dropped a TD pass.

[GiveMeaBJ]

Funny cause Peyton was being booed off the field against KC. He was absolutely horrid and only won cause KC dropped a TD pass.

Arguing Peyton isn't a legend is just going to make you look stupid guy. Save yourself.

[crustyme]

You said Peyton was the only one currently playing at a legendary level. Thats not what everyone saw vs Chiefs.

[3PtShooter]

Peyton Manning is the only legendary QB playing right now at a legendary level.

Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, and Tom Brady are the great QB's.

Brett Favre and Donovan McNabb are the washed up superstars.

Ben Rothlesberger is the winner who benefits from his team and won't get as much credit.

Matt Schaub, Kyle Orton, Tony Romo, and Philip Rivers, are the guys who will put up big numbers but never win.

Eli Manning, Jay Cutler, and Matt Ryan are the hit or miss guys. Could be great, could throw 4 picks or both.

Mark Sanchez, Chad Henne, Joe Flacco, and Matt Cassell are the game managers who benefit from strong run games and defenses.

Matt Hasslebeck is the washed up, career long, average QB. Guess what? He is till average.

Carson Palmer is the overrated guy who is still making his name off of one good year.

Jake Delhomme is the head case who can scare you when he is hot.

Vince Young, David Garrard, and Mike Vick are the black quarterbacks who will never get any credit.

Sam Bradford, Josh Freeman, and Kevin Kolb are the high draft picks who have shown NFL ability but haven't taken the leap yet.

Alex Smith and Matt Stafford are the high picks who would have gone much later if they re-drafted.

Ryan Fitzpatrick, Bruce Gradkowski, Jason Campbell, and Shaun Hill are the guys who we know are bad but are capable of winning a few games.

Seneca Wallace, Matt Moore, and Derek Anderson are the bottom dwellers who will only be starters for bad teams and back ups for good teams.

agree with most but think Rogers might be in the Carson Palmer Class,,nice write-up

[ParlayJunkie]

100% agreee

[bigsmitty]

Well said, I personally think teams have gone overboard in finding/creating a star QB rather than developing a team plan to win. Cheers

[horseexpert]

I think bradford is going to be a good one.

[mp5070]

Sanchez has not thrown an interception or had any turnovers this season

[Seattle Slew]

Good analysis, but will disgree on Rodgers. No way is he in Brady or Brees' league.

Maybe some day, with a better head coach, but Brees or Brady don't get picked in OT or lose as many close games as the Packers have.

[mp5070]

Brees threw a pick in late game vs Cardinals on Sunday

[mp5070]

Also, McNabb is not a washed up superstar....he might win the division

[ngates815]

Sanchez has not thrown an interception or had any turnovers this season

180 yards a game and 1.6 td's is nothing to brag about either.


But as long as he doesn't turn it over, they will win games.

[crustyme]

Brees - Stunk it up vs Arizona

Rodgers - Keeps throwing costly INTs late in games..... remind you of anyone?

Brady - Systems QB....... so easy even Matt Cassel can do it.

Favre - Washed up? The guy's coming off his BEST year ever! Cant blame him for his best receivers being injured or concussed. It would be like Peyton missing Clark and Wayne.

McNabb - Has the Skins with their first winning record since 2008. The guy continues to make big play after play.

Big Ben - Serial rapist who is lucky he isnt sitting prison right now. But he is a great QB.

Schaub - I agree, vastly overrated. Houston should be a playoff team except he keeps choking against good defenses and late in the season. He's lucky to have the best receiver in the game.

Orton - He was never anything more than a fill-gap. He's putting up great numbers tho.

Romo - Big time choker. Fumbled snap vs Seattle, INT vs Giants, etc.

Rivers - Great QB who threw for 400yds vs Seattle and Oakland but lost thanks to lousy special teams.

Eli - Great QB who's won a Super Bowl.

Cutler - Great QB who threw for 4500yds and made the Pro Bowl couple seasons ago. Bears just have no offensive line or go to receivers.

Ryan - Good QB who isnt as good as people thought he would be.

Sanchez - Great QB who took the biggest leap of anyone. 8 TDs 0 INTs the past 4 games. If his WRs were better he'd be one of the elite QBs. And they no longer have a great running game. LT is washed up and will break down later in the season like always.

Henne - Was annointed the next Marino but looks like the next Joey Harrington.

Flacco - Good young QB with unlimited potential.

Cassel - Never started in college and put up great numbers in a good system. Anyone who thought he woukd be great in KC was fooling themselves.

Palmer - Actually he had 3 great seasons. 2 4000yd seasons and a 3800yd season. He was the 5th fastest in history to throw 100TDs.
But yeah he's washed up now.

Delhommo - Washed up 5 seasons ago. Steve Smith was right when he "jokingly" told him he never really liked him as QB after his 5th turnover of the game.

Young - Good young QB who has shown flashes of brilliance. Just needs to take his Prozac pills so he doesnt put a gun in his mouth.

Garrard - Was never anything special. Just manages the game and doesnt turn the ball over much.

Vick - Dog killer. Hope he breaks his neck next time.

Bradford - Only his second season. Showed some flashes last season but yeah no way he's drafted ahead of Sanchez if draft was held today.

Freeman - Surprise of the season along with his team's 3-1 start.

Kolb - Looked horrible vs Redskins when he kept throwing behind receivers and dumping it off backs. But looked great vs 49ers. Too early to say which way he will go.

Smith - Bust who has occasional good games to make you believe he isnt a bust but then reminds you again he is.

Stafford - How has he not taken a leap when he's starting as a rookie? I dont think the Rams regret selecting him #1 overall.

Fitzpatrick - Journeyman QB.

Gradkowski - Journeyman QB.

Campbell - Journeyman QB. Looked good in the game winning drive vs Chargers. But def not the long term answer.

Hill - Journeyman QB.

Anderson - Journeyman QB who should never start another game.

Wallace - Journeyman QB who can win them some games.

Moore - On the bench where he belongs.

[rsnnh12]

^^^

Brady a systems QB? Are you serious?


Technically, every QB is a product of their system, but to say Brady is only good because of his system is ridiculous

[Brock Landers]

Brett Favre is the highest paid player in the league this year, correct?

[crustyme]

Sanchez has not thrown an interception or had any turnovers this season

He's taken the biggest leap of any QB by far. And this without a great WR and no running game. He'll continue to get better and better.

Funny how when Peyton had 9TDs and 0 ints people went gaga over it but when Sanchez has 8TDs and 0 ints they dismiss it as luck or not a big deal. If his name was Smith he'd probably be on the cover of Madden.

[prm223]

No running game he has LT and Shonn Greene, seem pretty good to me. As for no elite wide receivers maybe not but hes got some pretty dam good ones in Braylon and Cocheri and now has Santonio Holmes. Bradford is looking to be the best out of that draft class, if you say Sanchez your fooling yourself and buying into his team. Bradford is 3-2 and looking like he is turning around an awful franchise. Sanchez is still making stupid mistakes and throws, like when he snapped the ball a good 10 seconds before the two minute warning yesterday and then threw an incomplete pass. Rookie mistake shouldn't happen should have cost him the game.

[mp5070]

prm223,

Favre also made stupid mistakes, like when he snapped the ball and could not get both of his hand on the ball and the center was blamed, however clearly Favre did not have control off the ball when it was snapped and made a turnover. That is High School training stuff right there....Every QB should know to have both hand on the ball. By the way this play happened when the ball was dry. So you really cant blame Sanchez for making that mistake because Favre made a bigger mistake and turned the ball over as Sanchez did not turn the ball over

[ngates815]

He's taken the biggest leap of any QB by far. And this without a great WR and no running game. He'll continue to get better and better.

Funny how when Peyton had 9TDs and 0 ints people went gaga over it but when Sanchez has 8TDs and 0 ints they dismiss it as luck or not a big deal. If his name was Smith he'd probably be on the cover of Madden.

I'd say not by far...it's possible Orton is having a bigger leap. And orton doesn't have a reciever or a running game. Orton has thrown the ball 75 more times than sanchez, has double the yards, but has 3 INT's.

Sanchez has Brandon Marshall, and Keller who are both top 10 at their position.
Sanchez also has LT and Shonne Green.



Orton really has no one, Sanchez has good players around him.

[jjgold]

Majority are pitiful , I think that is why your seeing such un predictable scores.

[crustyme]

I'd say not by far...it's possible Orton is having a bigger leap. And orton doesn't have a reciever or a running game. Orton has thrown the ball 75 more times than sanchez, has double the yards, but has 3 INT's.

Sanchez has Brandon Marshall, and Keller who are both top 10 at their position.
Sanchez also has LT and Shonne Green.



Orton really has no one, Sanchez has good players around him.

Dolphins traded Brandon Marshall to the Jets? I guess they must have him locked in a closet cause I've never seen him play with them.

Sanchez does have Braylon Edwards who led the NFL in dropped passes in 2008 and dropped several TDs last season. Cotchery is avg at best. Helen Keller doesnt even know where the first down marker is. I would take Gates, Clark, Miller, Davis or even Cooley over him.

LT has been a pleasant surprise but can he do it overthe entire season? I dont think so Greene has was tagged as the replacement for Jones but has been a non factor.

Orton had a breakout season last year. Not surprising since Josh McDaniels was the one who turned Matt Cassel into a $62 million man by leading the Pats to a 11-5 record without Brady. So he knows how to make marginal QBs look good. Orton has attempted as many passes as Peyton so he should have good numbers. Plus he has three good receivers in Royal, Gaffney and Lloyd. Yeah he has no running game but thats not surprising since McDaniels ran a passing offense with the Pats.

[Mattn3236]

Max Hall is the starting QB for the Cardinals. Enough said.

[balls2wall]

He's taken the biggest leap of any QB by far. And this without a great WR and no running game. He'll continue to get better and better.

Funny how when Peyton had 9TDs and 0 ints people went gaga over it but when Sanchez has 8TDs and 0 ints they dismiss it as luck or not a big deal. If his name was Smith he'd probably be on the cover of Madden.

Yeah, I bet his name being Sanchez is holding him back



give me a break

[slacker00]

Funny cause Peyton was being booed off the field against KC. He was absolutely horrid and only won cause KC dropped a TD pass.

Great analysis in your long writeup, although I think you mixed up Stafford with Bradford. No biggy. Both kids show some real potential, but it's way to early to say too much. Even Alex Smith is too early to really know how he'll end up, as strange as that sounds. I swear that Alex Smith has potential, but maybe there's just something not right somehow, I'm just not sure what's going on with him. I see Kevin Kolb's future as similar to Alex Smith, lucky for him he's in a very QB friendly system with a very QB friendly coach.

As for the vets, I totally agree with you about Brady, he was just in the right place at the right time. McNabb gets way too much hate and he's one of the best in the league, definitely top 5 right now if you factor in injuries. I'm a huge Rivers fan and SD woes cannot be put on his shoulders, he's maybe my #1 rated QB in the league at this moment. I also see potential in Flacco, Ryan & Sanchez, but they are young guys and we'll see how they progress. I'm not really a fan of Roethlisberger, primarily for his attitude and off the field stuff, but the guy can play and win. Palmer, it's a shame, but I don't see much of a future for him except as a mediocre QB that might have another breakout year if he gets lucky. Vick is Vick, he'll be spectacular and then get injuried, as for the off the field stuff, he did his time and has kept his mouth shut. Favre really looked old last night and I think the sun is finally setting on him. As for guys like Eli and Brees, they have passed the ultimate test of fire and can be counted on to win when it matters.

I missed Peyton getting booed and I did watch much of that game, but I was flipping between games so maybe I missed it. Can you tell me when this happened? This seems crazy that Indy fans would be that stupid to boo such a revered QB, but on the other hand, Indy fans are some of the stupidest fans in the NFL and I'm an Indy homer, I can talk for hours about exactly how stupid Indy fans are.

I don't put all of the blame on Peyton, I think he's getting overexposed and defenses are finally figuring him out. It doesn't help that he's got some key injuries on offense. Check this out: going into next game, all 3 Indy RBs are listed as questionable!(Brown, Addai, Hart) That's gonna hurt Peyton even more. Nevermind Gonzalez is out, Colle is questionable, Garcon is hurting, etc, etc... Peyton has proven that he can adjust, but he's going through some tough adjustments on the fly right now.

[ngates815]

Dolphins traded Brandon Marshall to the Jets? I guess they must have him locked in a closet cause I've never seen him play with them.

Sanchez does have Braylon Edwards who led the NFL in dropped passes in 2008 and dropped several TDs last season. Cotchery is avg at best. Helen Keller doesnt even know where the first down marker is. I would take Gates, Clark, Miller, Davis or even Cooley over him.

LT has been a pleasant surprise but can he do it overthe entire season? I dont think so Greene has was tagged as the replacement for Jones but has been a non factor.

Orton had a breakout season last year. Not surprising since Josh McDaniels was the one who turned Matt Cassel into a $62 million man by leading the Pats to a 11-5 record without Brady. So he knows how to make marginal QBs look good. Orton has attempted as many passes as Peyton so he should have good numbers. Plus he has three good receivers in Royal, Gaffney and Lloyd. Yeah he has no running game but thats not surprising since McDaniels ran a passing offense with the Pats.

Sorry boss meant braylon edwards. Excuse me.

So you agree the Jets running game is better.

And who's receiving core(including TE's) is better? I'm guessing most would say the Jets.

[GiveMeaBJ]

You said Peyton was the only one currently playing at a legendary level. Thats not what everyone saw vs Chiefs.

One game defines Peyton Manning as a QB? You must have a rough time capping games.

agree with most but think Rogers might be in the Carson Palmer Class,,nice write-up

Completely disagree. Too early to throw him in there.

Brees - Stunk it up vs Arizona

Brady - Systems QB....... so easy even Matt Cassel can do it.

Sanchez - Great QB who took the biggest leap of anyone. 8 TDs 0 INTs the past 4 games. If his WRs were better he'd be one of the elite QBs. And they no longer have a great running game. LT is washed up and will break down later in the season like always.

Henne - Was annointed the next Marino but looks like the next Joey Harrington.

Palmer - Actually he had 3 great seasons. 2 4000yd seasons and a 3800yd season. He was the 5th fastest in history to throw 100TDs.
But yeah he's washed up now.

Bradford - Only his second season. Showed some flashes last season but yeah no way he's drafted ahead of Sanchez if draft was held today.

You are out of your damn mind. What does Brees stinking it up against the Cardinals have to do with him being a good QB or not. Guy won a SB and shows the ability to make every throw in the book. Offense just isn't clicking five games into the year.

Brady is a sytems QB? Is that what you said? So easy even Matt Cassell could do it? Cassell set the TD record? Cassell has made Pro Bowl after Pro Bowl? Cassell has won all the rings? Please get your head out of your ass.

Sanchez doesn't qualify as a great QB yet guy. Sure he is playing great but let's see him command his offense down the field with two minutes left and make plays winners make. Right now he is being bottle-fed this offense. Throwing for 180/g isn't anything special. They no longer have a running game? When did this happen? Needs better receivers? Holmes, Keller, Edwards, Cotchery isn't good enough? Should they have gotten Moss, Andre Johnson, Miles Austin, and Gates?

Palmer had three great seasons? Yardage numbers are overrated. He had his 32 Td year. Then in 2006 he led an 8-8 team with 28 Tds, 13 picks, and 13 fumbles. Not a great year. The next year you are referring to he went 7-9 and threw 26 tds and 20 picks. Great seasons? I see one.

Henne doesn't look like the next Joey Harrington. Guy is solid.

Bradford showed some flashes last season? I must have missed that. Oh wait now I remember last season he had the sling on his arm on the Oklahoma sideline. Your right, he showed flashes last year.

[Rich Boy]

Peyton Manning is the only legendary QB playing right now at a legendary level.

Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, and Tom Brady are the great QB's.

Brett Favre and Donovan McNabb are the washed up superstars.

Ben Rothlesberger is the winner who benefits from his team and won't get as much credit.

Matt Schaub, Kyle Orton, Tony Romo, and Philip Rivers, are the guys who will put up big numbers but never win.

Eli Manning, Jay Cutler, and Matt Ryan are the hit or miss guys. Could be great, could throw 4 picks or both.

Mark Sanchez, Chad Henne, Joe Flacco, and Matt Cassell are the game managers who benefit from strong run games and defenses.

Matt Hasslebeck is the washed up, career long, average QB. Guess what? He is till average.

Carson Palmer is the overrated guy who is still making his name off of one good year.

Jake Delhomme is the head case who can scare you when he is hot.

Vince Young, David Garrard, and Mike Vick are the black quarterbacks who will never get any credit.

Sam Bradford, Josh Freeman, and Kevin Kolb are the high draft picks who have shown NFL ability but haven't taken the leap yet.

Alex Smith and Matt Stafford are the high picks who would have gone much later if they re-drafted.

Ryan Fitzpatrick, Bruce Gradkowski, Jason Campbell, and Shaun Hill are the guys who we know are bad but are capable of winning a few games.

Seneca Wallace, Matt Moore, and Derek Anderson are the bottom dwellers who will only be starters for bad teams and back ups for good teams.

One of the sharpest posts Ive seen on SBR.

[mcbogo]

how about Charkie Batch?

[Brock Landers]

Tony Romo has never done a fukking thing, yet this guy and his team are held in such high regard. I don't get it

[azn1234]

Bradford - Only his second season. Showed some flashes last season but yeah no way he's drafted ahead of Sanchez if draft was held today.


Stafford - How has he not taken a leap when he's starting as a rookie? I dont think the Rams regret selecting him #1 overall.

[Jimmy0607]

NFl QBs are the best on the world