Pats Think Because They Scored 41 Points With Moss Involved He Was Expendable??

[OmgUrMom]

JJ wins again, like usual

[statnerds]

I know there are a whole lot of posters eating a whole lot of words right now

[jjgold]

Thanks guys for Congratulating me

Winning threads means everything to me

I have nothing else and I am serious

[Rod1010]

JJ u fkin owned them

[bretb27]

I know there are a whole lot of posters eating a whole lot of words right now

you disappeared like a fukn ghost after saying NE would be a .500 team and that the Vikings were perennial SB contenders lmao. Suck one stat f\*g

[The Seer]

Thanks guys for Congratulating me Winning threads means everything to me I have nothing else and I am serious

Moss doesn't play defense, let's not get carried away.

[Scottish]

Moss is passed it, even if the Pats do need a deep threat its not Moss, the guy isn't even going to be in the league next year.

Moss would of made no difference today, the Jets were just better in every phase of the game.

[ramones951]

Patriots lost to the Jets week 2 with moss.....

[frostno98]

Looks the genius Billicheat fuked up big time today. The Pats didn't scare anyone deep, and they were predictable because of that. This is probably Brady's last chance at ever returning to the Superbowl again.

[statnerds]

you disappeared like a fukn ghost after saying NE would be a .500 team and that the Vikings were perennial SB contenders lmao. Suck one stat f\*g

Nothing puts sand in your vagina like losing money huh sport?

Never said they would be a .500 team, although they are 5-5 their L10 Post Season games.

They have replaced the Colts. Best Regular Season team in history. 16-0, 11-5, 10-6, 14-2 and ZERO SUPERBOWLS!!!!!!! 51-13 L4 seasons and no one will ever remember cause they didn't win shit. 3 Straight Post-Season losses. Haven't won a Playoff Game in 3 years!!!

Don't mean a thing if you don't win the Ring!!!!!

Tommy Terrific sure looked average yesterday. Couldn't even read the blitz pre-snap. It is almost as if when he isn't cheating, he has no chance to win.

[bretb27]

Nothing puts sand in your vagina like losing money huh sport?

Never said they would be a .500 team, although they are 5-5 their L10 Post Season games.

They have replaced the Colts. Best Regular Season team in history. 16-0, 11-5, 10-6, 14-2 and ZERO SUPERBOWLS!!!!!!! 51-13 L4 seasons and no one will ever remember cause they didn't win shit. 3 Straight Post-Season losses. Haven't won a Playoff Game in 3 years!!!

Don't mean a thing if you don't win the Ring!!!!!

Tommy Terrific sure looked average yesterday. Couldn't even read the blitz pre-snap. It is almost as if when he isn't cheating, he has no chance to win.

2 touchdowns (should have been 3 if not for crumpler's drop) 300 yards, a pick that didn't result in any points, that's a bad game? I bet you would suck a dick for your qb to have a game like that. I actually made money on that game big guy so I don't know what you're running your mouth about. Either way, Moss was expendable you're an idiot if you think otherwise.

[statnerds]

2 touchdowns (should have been 3 if not for crumpler's drop) 300 yards, a pick that didn't result in any points, that's a bad game? I bet you would suck a dick for your qb to have a game like that. I actually made money on that game big guy so I don't know what you're running your mouth about. Either way, Moss was expendable you're an idiot if you think otherwise.

You do realize that he was 19 for 38 for 240 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT before the meaningless TD drive that with 24 seconds left in the game, right? A drive that Jets finally backed off, gave the underneath stuff and watched the clock roll, right? Are you the same douchebag crying that the Pats' shitty defensive numbers were all due to 'garbage time'?

And even using the entire game stats:

QB Rating of 89!!!!!

Which is better than his QB Rating of 49 from last year's Playoff loss!!!!!

He is fukkin average in the post season. Being a superstar in the regular season don't mean shit in the Playoffs.

Funny they ain't won shit since Spygate, isn't it?

And 'my quarterback' is back on his way to the AFC Championship Game for the 4th time in 7 seasons, as he continues to build a hall of fame career. One without cheating.

You need me to give you a winner for this weekend so we can avoid your crybaby antics?

[trendon]

Revis would have eliminated Moss in the same way he eliminated Branch until the final drive. Unless Moss somehow impacted the pass protection or pass rush, this thread is still a fun one to look back on.

[Grits n' Gravy]

Looks the genius Billicheat fuked up big time today. The Pats didn't scare anyone deep, and they were predictable because of that. This is probably Brady's last chance at ever returning to the Superbowl again.

Let's not act like Brady is 40 years old. He still has plenty of good years left in him and NE is a very young team with a ton of draft picks to use. With the kids they got last year learning on the fly they will be in the mix for some time.

I expect them to look for depth on OL and a pass rusher. Ty Warren should be back next season, which is a huge boost to DL.

[bretb27]

You do realize that he was 19 for 38 for 240 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT before the meaningless TD drive that with 24 seconds left in the game, right? A drive that Jets finally backed off, gave the underneath stuff and watched the clock roll, right? Are you the same douchebag crying that the Pats' shitty defensive numbers were all due to 'garbage time'?

And even using the entire game stats:

QB Rating of 89!!!!!

Which is better than his QB Rating of 49 from last year's Playoff loss!!!!!

He is fukkin average in the post season. Being a superstar in the regular season don't mean shit in the Playoffs.

Funny they ain't won shit since Spygate, isn't it?

And 'my quarterback' is back on his way to the AFC Championship Game for the 4th time in 7 seasons, as he continues to build a hall of fame career. One without cheating.

You need me to give you a winner for this weekend so we can avoid your crybaby antics?

3 superbowl wins and 2 superbowl mvps and you consider him average in the playoffs? haha you're a joke. Let's compare his and Big Bens numbers and you tell me who the better qb is. Ben Roethlisberger isn't even in the top 5 Qb's in the league TODAY. Hall of Fame? haha yeah maybe but he won't even get in within 10 years of Brady. Don't forget the Patriots beat all remaining teams in the playoffs, and we wiped the floor with Pitts pathetic ass. Can't wait for Green Bay to crush the afc rep.

[statnerds]

Ben Roethlisberger isn't even in the top 5 Qb's in the league TODAY. Hall of Fame? haha yeah maybe but he won't even get in within 10 years of Brady. Don't forget the Patriots beat all remaining teams in the playoffs, and we wiped the floor with Pitts pathetic ass. Can't wait for Green Bay to crush the afc rep.

Isn't top 5? Please name the other QBs you would take over a guy with 2 Rings and a career record of 78-31 as a starter. You shouldn't let emotion cloud you judgment or your statements, makes you look like a clueless buffoon.

The Pats beat all the remaining teams, except when it counted.

When did you play for the Pats? One of my biggest pet peeves of all-time. Unless you are a player, sitting in meetings, hitting weights daily and getting pounded every Sunday, refrain from using 'we'. Unless you are Kraft, a coach, the GM, a PR guy, a front office employee or even a fukkin usher, refrain from using 'we'. Did 'we' go through 2 a days in the Summer? Did 'we' suffer concussions, blown out knees, assorted broken bones and too many minor injuries to list? If so, than have at it.

What is with this 'we' shit?

[VTranX]

Brady is the only one that will suffer from Moss being gone. Without Randy he will go back to being a slightly above average QB with average stats and a Career QB Rating under 90

go look it up

Brady before Moss and Brady with Moss

They had no other choice. Their defense is absolute garbage cause they spend all of their money on the offense.

or maybe brady just got better?

[bretb27]

Isn't top 5? Please name the other QBs you would take over a guy with 2 Rings and a career record of 78-31 as a starter. You shouldn't let emotion cloud you judgment or your statements, makes you look like a clueless buffoon.

The Pats beat all the remaining teams, except when it counted.

When did you play for the Pats? One of my biggest pet peeves of all-time. Unless you are a player, sitting in meetings, hitting weights daily and getting pounded every Sunday, refrain from using 'we'. Unless you are Kraft, a coach, the GM, a PR guy, a front office employee or even a fukkin usher, refrain from using 'we'. Did 'we' go through 2 a days in the Summer? Did 'we' suffer concussions, blown out knees, assorted broken bones and too many minor injuries to list? If so, than have at it.

What is with this 'we' shit?

oh so now you want to talk about rings? and wins? Back when you were trying to make a case about vince young you said it was all about qb rating? You truly are a fukking clown.

Brady is better
Peyton is better
Rivers is better
Ryan is better
Vick is better
Rodgers is better

Want me to keep going?

All you kept saying is that Brady won superbowls because we had great defenses back then. What the hell do you think the steelers are? they always have great run games and defenses, rex grossman could play for the steelers and they'd be a lock for the playoffs every year. get a clue

[bretb27]

nice call statnerds. stick to dungeons and dragons you clown.

no one likes you statclown

and as for your gay little pet peeve, I am a fan. I buy tickets, jerseys, memorabilia, without me and others like me, the New England Patriots and the NFL would not exist. Supply and demand fukboy

[statnerds]

oh so now you want to talk about rings? and wins? Back when you were trying to make a case about vince young you said it was all about qb rating? You truly are a fukking clown.

Brady is better
Peyton is better
Rivers is better
Ryan is better
Vick is better
Rodgers is better

Want me to keep going?

All you kept saying is that Brady won superbowls because we had great defenses back then. What the hell do you think the steelers are? they always have great run games and defenses, rex grossman could play for the steelers and they'd be a lock for the playoffs every year. get a clue

Why so angry?

Your list is too funny. I'm not even going to address other than Ben has better numbers, better record as a starter and more rings than 4 of those guys. Matt Ryan? That is a stretch....

Brady stats were average until Moss got there was my point. And it was true. But you Brady Backers said stats don't matter, only wins. So by your rationale, Vince Young is on his way to the Hall of Fame, even though he throws for 2,000 yards a year. Without stats, which build QB Ratings, you have no measuring device to separate and compare QBs. Using strictly wins is absurd cause the starting pitchers in MLB with the most wins aren't always the best pitchers. But you guys want to act like Brady won 3 Superbowls by himself. Like he didn't have a Top 10 defense or a coach that cheats. Using Rings is a tough one too, cause only 1 out of 32 QBs gets one every year.

So you can't pick and choose one category to judge two QBs and then pick different ones for other QBs.

That is why you use stats, wins and Rings.

Brady ain't won shit in years. Ask NFL players if they would rather go 14-2 or win a Superbowl...

[statnerds]

And another thing....

What does this do for Big Ben if they are fortunate enough to defeat the team that beat Manning and Brady in back-to-back weeks?

[jjgold]

When does Randy re sign with Pats??

You cannot win with these white guys

I still have no idea what happened with Moss and Brady

[bretb27]

Why so angry?

Your list is too funny. I'm not even going to address other than Ben has better numbers, better record as a starter and more rings than 4 of those guys. Matt Ryan? That is a stretch....

Brady stats were average until Moss got there was my point. And it was true. But you Brady Backers said stats don't matter, only wins. So by your rationale, Vince Young is on his way to the Hall of Fame, even though he throws for 2,000 yards a year. Without stats, which build QB Ratings, you have no measuring device to separate and compare QBs. Using strictly wins is absurd cause the starting pitchers in MLB with the most wins aren't always the best pitchers. But you guys want to act like Brady won 3 Superbowls by himself. Like he didn't have a Top 10 defense or a coach that cheats. Using Rings is a tough one too, cause only 1 out of 32 QBs gets one every year.

So you can't pick and choose one category to judge two QBs and then pick different ones for other QBs.

That is why you use stats, wins and Rings.

Brady ain't won shit in years. Ask NFL players if they would rather go 14-2 or win a Superbowl...

Brady won all 3 superbowls without moss, I still don't get your argument that moss made him who he is. Not to mention we got welker the same year as moss...

Brady hasn't done shit? 2 mvp's in his past 3 seasons, a playoff appearance (albeit a fast one) in his last at least 3 years and numerous pro bowls since the Patriots last superbowl win. He has one of if not the best best win percentage of any qb of all time! Only what, 50 players get superbowl rings every year, so of course they would take a superbowl over 14-2. But I guarantee you if you ask any player if they'd like to have a 14-2 record before the season they would jump on it, they'd be retarded not to. New England and Tom Brady will be strong for the next 5 years, you can count on that. And as for your last statement, something about the steelers beating the jets? Something that manning and Brady couldn't? Yeah, they already lost to the jets. Big ben was backed by another great run performance and threw one measly touchdown and threw for 264... pretty mundane numbers if you ask me...


I'll leave you with a couple meaningless accolades from Mr. Brady

Brady holds numerous regular season and postseason records, including most touchdown passes in a regular season (50); highest touchdown-to-interception ratio in a single season (9:1); highest single-game completion percentage, regular season or postseason (26/28, 92.9%); most consecutive pass attempts without an interception (339); most completions in one Super Bowl (32); most career completions in Super Bowl history (100); most consecutive regular season home wins (28); the highest winning percentage of any quarterback ever during his first 100 starts (76 wins); and the longest streak of games with 3 or more touchdown passes (10 games). Brady is the fourth-fastest player to reach 200 career passing touchdowns (116 games). He is the first quarterback in NFL history to have reached said mark with under 100 career interceptions (he had 88 interceptions).

[soli]

Brady is the everyday joe QB when some pressure is applied.....ask the NY Giants

[Rookie-Capper]

Moss was terrible all season with every team he played for .good luck with that big contract randy

[bretb27]

Brady is the everyday joe QB when some pressure is applied.....ask the NY Giants

name one qb that isn't an average joe when being rushed effectively...

[the_situation]

Brady is the everyday joe QB when some pressure is applied.....ask the NY Giants

[slacker00]

And 'my quarterback' is back on his way to the AFC Championship Game for the 4th time in 7 seasons, as he continues to build a hall of fame career.

Roethlisberger is definitely the best QB left in the playoffs. 9-2 playoff record speaks for itself.

Now if he could just learn to ride a motorcycle without crashing it or go to a bar without raping drunk chicks...

[alka07]

they should have not released him with him they could win , when jets have to consider deep threat

[jjgold]

No QB does well when under heavy pressure

[statnerds]

No QB does well when under heavy pressure

But if tommy terrific were a superior QB, would recognize pre-snap what the defense is doing and who is blitzing and who is not, a la Peyton Manning. But he can't.

You know one play that never gets out of my head?

Ty Law picking off Manning for the third time in that Playoff game years ago. You should all remember it. Watching it live you couldn't tell. But on the replay, from the opposite end zone, Law breaks on the ball before Manning even throws it. It was if he knew what play was coming. Much like when the Pats beat my beloved Black and Gold in the Playoffs years ago when, I think Mike Malurkey, was still OC.

"It was as if they knew what play was coming"

That wasn't my quote, but several offensive players at the time.

Then Spygate.

Then 5-5 in the Post Season.

But if OJ is innocent, guess the Pats are as well.

[alling]

No they got rid of Moss becomes hes a bum. Thats also why Minn. waived him and only one team , titans, claimed him. How did that work out for said titans?

[statnerds]

It was a strange fit for the Titans and a move that made no sense at all. You know you have a supremely talented guy that only gives 100% when involved heavily in the offense. So you get him mid-season on an offense that flows through CJ cause your QB is fukkin mud and Moss has zero time to learn the offense and spends the majority of the time standing on the sideline pissed off.

Where Randy would be a good fit

Indy
Washington
Denver
Detroit
Arizona if they had a QB
and I want to say New Orleans but Brees spreads it around it so much, might not be enough touches for Randy

But could you imagine Calvin and Randy as the wide-outs for the Lions?!?!

Holy shit that would be fun to see.

[bretb27]

spygate lol... nice, so we're better at football AND we're better at cheating.

[Gtawatson]

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