Pats Think Because They Scored 41 Points With Moss Involved He Was Expendable??

[bretb27]

So and if can again extend your line of thought to its logical conclusion, then almost any QB would have won with the Patriots. Again I say that by your line of reasoning, Marino sucked and Dilfer should be in the Hall of Fame. Brady's stats were pedestrian before Moss came to town, and they will revert to that once again. His completion percentage will be fairly high throwing 4 yard passes, but his yds/att is going to suffer.

He was a good enough QB to when he got trouble throw it high and deep and Randy go get it.

A contender? Let me check their schedule...

7-5 rest of the way this year, at best, but I suspect 6-6 will be the order of the day. I will go on record as calling a 9-7 finish for the Pats, with a very slim chance at a Wild Card.

If only your profanity laced and fatally flawed logic could play defense for the Patriots.

Oh wait, they have Brady, the greatest QB to ever live.

once again asshole, it's about winning. Marino was a great qb because he won... he had a couple chances to win the biggest game of the year and lost them. If you ask Dan Marino if he has any regrets he'd say yeah, I didn't win the superbowl.. not, "oh yeah, I really wish my qb rating would have been higher." haha you're such a tool.

[uhuhahah]

With out Moss, NE is the play in the next 13 games....wooo hooo
make some $$$...

[plzkthx]

how was moss even quiting again? he had a pretty decent first 3 games and nothing on the 4th? one crap game equals quitting? please..

[bretb27]

So and if can again extend your line of thought to its logical conclusion, then almost any QB would have won with the Patriots. Again I say that by your line of reasoning, Marino sucked and Dilfer should be in the Hall of Fame. Brady's stats were pedestrian before Moss came to town, and they will revert to that once again. His completion percentage will be fairly high throwing 4 yard passes, but his yds/att is going to suffer.

He was a good enough QB to when he got trouble throw it high and deep and Randy go get it.

A contender? Let me check their schedule...

7-5 rest of the way this year, at best, but I suspect 6-6 will be the order of the day. I will go on record as calling a 9-7 finish for the Pats, with a very slim chance at a Wild Card.

If only your profanity laced and fatally flawed logic could play defense for the Patriots.

Oh wait, they have Brady, the greatest QB to ever live.

I'm assuming you were counting the Baltimore and SD games as losses for the Patriots... haha good call douchebag

[bretb27]

how was moss even quiting again? he had a pretty decent first 3 games and nothing on the 4th? one crap game equals quitting? please..

his routes are unbelievably lazy, he looks slow, and he's an all around downer on the sidelines. Even now that he's with Minn. you can see him doing the same thing, it's gonna be a longgg year for the vikings

[Naz18]

Old school Pats are back....back to barely winning their games.

[tealish]

Old school Pats are back....back to barely winning their games.

barely winning games enroute to another title perhaps.

[stealthyburrito]

next week they should expect a fat L.

[rm18]

Moss gonna shake his dick on the Patriots

[statnerds]

once again asshole, it's about winning. Marino was a great qb because he won... he had a couple chances to win the biggest game of the year and lost them. If you ask Dan Marino if he has any regrets he'd say yeah, I didn't win the superbowl.. not, "oh yeah, I really wish my qb rating would have been higher." haha you're such a tool.

so by your logic Vince Young is putting together a Hall of Fame career.

[MartinBlank]

I thought the Patriots and Tom Brady were going to go in the tank when Moss left?

What happened to that?

[slacker00]

Looking like the old Patriots.

[MartinBlank]

Love it

I say Pats finish 8-8

Moss was the entire offense even if he did not get a lot of yards per game

4 guys guarded him freeing up Welker

Nice prediction JJ.

You----you're sharp Mr. Gold.

[bretb27]

so by your logic Vince Young is putting together a Hall of Fame career.

haha wow you love mixing up peoples words and using the word "logic" but your posts are anything but logical. I doubt Vince Young is on pace to have as many wins as Marino, and I highly doubt he's on pace to have any of the numbers Marino had, except zero superbowl rings... But hey, maybe his QB rating might get there! We all know how important that qb rating is lmao

[justwinthisone]

Pats don't need Moss, they will not lose a thing with him gone as you have all now seen. Look what Brady did when he won all those super bowls. Who were the receivers and what happened to them after they left NE. All they need is Brady and an O line to give him time. They would still win even without Welker.

[jjgold]

Brady is just a winner, I bet he can play with HS kids and win

unreal

[MartinBlank]

Brady is just a winner, I bet he can play with HS kids and win

unreal

JJ---I have to give you credit. You will admit it when you get something wrong.

[bretb27]

Pats don't need Moss, they will not lose a thing with him gone as you have all now seen. Look what Brady did when he won all those super bowls. Who were the receivers and what happened to them after they left NE. All they need is Brady and an O line to give him time. They would still win even without Welker.

that's going a little too far, welker is invaluable to this team. We're a diff. team without him (see playoff loss to Balt.) But I've been defending the pats this entire time saying moss gone won't hurt us. Go pats!

[statnerds]

haha wow you love mixing up peoples words and using the word "logic" but your posts are anything but logical. I doubt Vince Young is on pace to have as many wins as Marino, and I highly doubt he's on pace to have any of the numbers Marino had, except zero superbowl rings... But hey, maybe his QB rating might get there! We all know how important that qb rating is lmao

so wins are important? young is 30-15 as a starter, .667 winning percentage.

but then you follow that up with the stats make marino better

before finishing by saying that stats don't matter?

Pats with Moss this year 32 pts/gm

Pats without Moss 24 pts/gm

Brady without Moss

62/103
691 yds
3 TDS
2 INTs

QB Rating:82

back to being average.

now you will come back and say only wins matter, unless it is Vince Young, then wins don't matter, but stats do. then you will come back and say with Brady, stats don't matter, but wins do.

fukk

take one stance and keep it. take one position and don't fukking flip flop.

[bretb27]

man it took you a long time to reply, i think you've confused yourself with all this shit. Here it is in plain black and white: Vince Young isn't a good quarterback. Tom Brady is one of the best in the history in the NFL. You trying to compare their stats; win percentage, qb rating, and everything else is pointless in my eyes. Why don't you try doing a comparison of brady's numbers without welker. You're still going on about how good moss is, do you still think that? Also, their record is better without moss, take a hint you ******* nerd haha and man, you are a nerd.

[bretb27]

You think that everyone is obsessed with stats, maybe in baseball, but not football. Do you think the linemen that are busting their asses every game care about stats? HELL NO because the don't have any, and because they only care about beating the other team.

[jjgold]

Looks like they missed Moss yesterday

[frostno98]

The Browns finally got enough film to expose the Pats. The offense looked very ordinary yesterday, so much for superbowl aspirations.

[NFL-Addicted]

Pats miss Moss 4 sure. At least he lure some players toward his running side.

[bretb27]

patriots don't miss moss... the offense looked awful sunday and it's not because of randy moss. You can't say the pats are no longer a contender because of one bad game... the parity in the nfl this year is bigger than it's ever been, they still have a shot of being champs.

[statnerds]

Here it is in plain black and white: Vince Young isn't a good quarterback. Tom Brady is one of the best in the history in the NFL.

Based on what criteria?

Once you decide on what bizarro world you are basing it on, then I can prove you wrong.

If stats don't matter, then how do we prove Brady is better than Young, when I already told you Young wins 67% of his games as a starter?

You have to have a system in place that can facilitate the rankings of QBs.

So please, for the last time. Tell me exactly what you are basing it on...wins, stats, Rings...what.

Just plain idiotic to claim a team doesn't miss one of the best WRs of all time and a sure fire Hall of Famer.

fukkin clueless it is.

[teddyd]

The reason the Pats got rid of Moss was simple - it became public knowledge that they were not going to renew his contract. Moss (like Manny in Baseball) will totally give up on a team if they don't show confidence in him. Plain and simple.

[orlikowski]

moss was on expendable because he does not give effort. great talent but waste of one.

[wildcats99]

pats are in trouble without moss.

[eidolon]

Tom Brady's QB rating:

with Moss (4+ years): 107
without Moss (6+ years): 88

[statnerds]

Tom Brady's QB rating:

with Moss (4+ years): 107
without Moss (6+ years): 88

be careful. I started a shit storm when I posted such facts.

[The Seer]

lot's of clueless people in this thread. They are 100x better now. NE was winning Superbowls way before Moss, never won one with him, and llook as if they will go back without him. The constants that keep this team winning are Billie Boy and Brady.

[bretb27]

beating the steelers on the road and then the colts at home, and you think we miss moss? get outta here you losers haha

[The Seer]

Miami kicked the crap out of them, most of those points were given to them in turnovers Pats are going to get it right up their ass

sorry chief but I had to bump this, Billy B has a clue

[The Seer]

lot's of clueless people in this thread. They are 100x better now. NE was winning Superbowls way before Moss, never won one with him, and llook as if they will go back without him. The constants that keep this team winning are Billie Boy and Brady.