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  • uanl
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-10-09
    • 825

    #1
    Week 3: Cowboys @ Texans -3, thoughts?
    The Cowboys are usually a team that gets a lot of public action week in and week out. I believe that for this week things are going to change a bit. The texans come in after beating the colts, which caught everyone's attention and then came back from 17 down to force overtime and eventually win. The Cowboys are quite the opposite, coming in 0-2 after shooting themselves in the foot in both games and everyone is talking about the cowboys being overrated and not making the playoffs this season etc.

    Bottom line is people are going to overlook the fact that the texans treated game 1 against the colts like their superbowl, while for indy, it was just week 1 ..and they'll overlook the fact that the texans were down 17 to begin with and while it showed great effort to comeback, if it wasn't for a blocked fg and then an "icing the kicker" timeout in OT they still shoulda lost...and even then, they didn't get the blowout win in Washington that had everybody making texans -3 the lock of the year...

    granted by looking at my display pic, you know im a cowboys fan..and i am..but money comes first and when there is a good situation to cash in a game, i take it whether its for them or against them, which is why i cashed on the redskins in week 1 ...

    i see the cowboys covering this number, most likely winning the game SU and getting revenge for getting that pre-season loss against the texans a few weeks ago...

    any thoughts???
  • Clear2Land
    SBR Sharp
    • 07-09-10
    • 271

    #2
    I completely agree, because if the cowboys come out flat and go into the bye 0-3 Jerry Jones is going to be on the sidelines firing people left and right DURING the game
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    • Popular
      SBR Sharp
      • 08-19-10
      • 433

      #3
      Just because it seems like the Cowboys should win this because of the ramifications doesn't mean they are a team that is ready at all for a team that's clicking right now in the Texas.. the line is -3 because it would seem like Dallas will bounce back but they aren't going to.. This could be a double digit victory for Houston with ease
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      • uanl
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 10-10-09
        • 825

        #4
        Originally posted by Popular
        Just because it seems like the Cowboys should win this because of the ramifications doesn't mean they are a team that is ready at all for a team that's clicking right now in the Texas.. the line is -3 because it would seem like Dallas will bounce back but they aren't going to.. This could be a double digit victory for Houston with ease
        im not saying the Cowboys should win because they aren't going 0-3...im saying public perception is gonna make the texans the public choice this week on this game and the books know this and it seems like the books aren't scared of taking action on the texans -3..

        just to add, at my book the Bucs are +2.5 with a ML of +120 ..the cowboys are +3 with the same ML of +120, for what its worth..
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        • iMax310
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          • 09-17-10
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          #5
          Yeah I like the Cowboys straight up as well, pre season has nothing to do with it though. Im still not sold on the Texans, like you mentioned, they were very fortunate to come out with a victory in D.C..
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          • JosephPavs
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            • 07-29-10
            • 1660

            #6
            I follow the AFC south close and texans by stats alone should be at -4 but to keep the money off the cowturds they will put the line at -3

            If the same stats on 2 different teams you would see a -4

            Everyone would be all over cowboys +4 and personally I would juice it to 4.5
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            • JosephPavs
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              • 07-29-10
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              #7
              Originally posted by iMax310
              Yeah I like the Cowboys straight up as well, pre season has nothing to do with it though. Im still not sold on the Texans, like you mentioned, they were very fortunate to come out with a victory in D.C..
              Why?
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              • iMax310
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                • 09-17-10
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                #8
                Originally posted by JosephPavs
                Why?
                I guess it's just my fans perspective cause I usually don't care when my team loses in pre season. But hey maybe the Cowboys will use their preseason loss as motivation. Anyways, I'm taking the Cowboys SU.
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                • uanl
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-10-09
                  • 825

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JosephPavs
                  I follow the AFC south close and texans by stats alone should be at -4 but to keep the money off the cowturds they will put the line at -3

                  If the same stats on 2 different teams you would see a -4

                  Everyone would be all over cowboys +4 and personally I would juice it to 4.5
                  ok.. so you say they line should have been 4 but the books wanted to keep off the money off the cowboys, my question is why did they want to keep the money off the cowboys?

                  With the line at 3, despite being early in the week, 75% of the action is on the texans at -3 ..so ur basically saying that the books didn't want the action on the cowboys so instead of making the line 4, they made it 3 knowing they would get more action on the texans...hence my point that the books don't seem too scared about taking money at texans -3 which would make the cowboys the play on this one??
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                  • JosephPavs
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                    • 07-29-10
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by iMax310
                    Yeah I like the Cowboys straight up as well, pre season has nothing to do with it though. Im still not sold on the Texans, like you mentioned, they were very fortunate to come out with a victory in D.C..
                    Why?
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                    • JosephPavs
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                      • 07-29-10
                      • 1660

                      #11
                      Originally posted by uanl
                      ok.. so you say they line should have been 4 but the books wanted to keep off the money off the cowboys, my question is why did they want to keep the money off the cowboys?

                      With the line at 3, despite being early in the week, 75% of the action is on the texans at -3 ..so ur basically saying that the books didn't want the action on the cowboys so instead of making the line 4, they made it 3 knowing they would get more action on the texans...hence my point that the books don't seem too scared about taking money at texans -3 which would make the cowboys the play on this one??
                      What I was trying to say is they would have too much on cowboys +4
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                      • JosephPavs
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                        • 07-29-10
                        • 1660

                        #12
                        Texans -4 or lower is the play here.... I know what you are trying to say by the books want to make money but they would actually be better off reducing risk and being at 50% on both sides of every play.... The public will be on the texans and the cowboys following will be on the cowboys.... Just FYI games of the year line was Texans +3 vs cowboys if that tells you anything
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                        • uanl
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 10-10-09
                          • 825

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JosephPavs
                          Texans -4 or lower is the play here.... I know what you are trying to say by the books want to make money but they would actually be better off reducing risk and being at 50% on both sides of every play.... The public will be on the texans and the cowboys following will be on the cowboys.... Just FYI games of the year line was Texans +3 vs cowboys if that tells you anything

                          ill keep the thought in mind.. but i just dont see how after what we saw in the first two weeks of the season, the books would just make the texans -3 ...my initial thought was that the line would be around 4 or 4.5...if i am correct, a -3 texans line is like telling us that the game on a neutral site would be a PK but the texans get the -3 cuz of homefield...
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                          • thebestthereis
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                            • 03-01-09
                            • 11459

                            #14
                            preseason and the superbowl being in dallas (aside from phillips and romo never gonna win anything no matter what happens) is effecting this team. they slept walked through preseason and it is showing now. if they don't stop fukking around they will not make the playoffs; and if they lose this game i doubt they will.
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                            • uanl
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                              • 10-10-09
                              • 825

                              #15
                              Originally posted by thebestthereis
                              preseason and the superbowl being in dallas (aside from phillips and romo never gonna win anything no matter what happens) is effecting this team. they slept walked through preseason and it is showing now. if they don't stop fukking around they will not make the playoffs; and if they lose this game i doubt they will.
                              whats your take on the line?
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                              • nosniboR11
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                                • 09-02-08
                                • 10042

                                #16
                                going to be an interesting game, good luck
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                                • BWest
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                                  • 05-05-10
                                  • 940

                                  #17
                                  If money is your primary interest, lay off the Cowboys. Other places to make money this week. Until Dallas does something, they do not warrant any attention. In fact, they will either tie for second or finish third in the NFC East. No Superbowl this year.
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                                  • thebestthereis
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-01-09
                                    • 11459

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by uanl
                                    whats your take on the line?
                                    i think the line is about right, we need to face the facts that the texans are better than the cowboys right now plain and simple. that being said i think the cowboys will find a way to play great defense and get after the qb like they can; charles schwab will make mistakes with his money. i will likely have the cowboys in my teaser package +8.5. won't be shocked if they lose a close one but they will play d and they will run the ball effectively.
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                                    • uanl
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 10-10-09
                                      • 825

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BWest
                                      If money is your primary interest, lay off the Cowboys. Other places to make money this week. Until Dallas does something, they do not warrant any attention. In fact, they will either tie for second or finish third in the NFC East. No Superbowl this year.
                                      i disagree about laying off the cowboys until they do something..once they do something, they won't have much value because they are usually a public play...right now is the time to "buy low" and jump on their wagon, i see some value this week at +3 because of public preception being so low on the cowboys and so high on the texans...
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                                      • k13
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 07-16-10
                                        • 18104

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by thebestthereis
                                        i think the line is about right, we need to face the facts that the texans are better than the cowboys right now plain and simple.
                                        So they are that much better yet the game is a pk'em taking away home field?

                                        Why is it not -3.5 -4.5 -6.5 -7?

                                        I mean a crappy 0-2 team against an amazing 2-0 team, they should at least be favoured, no?
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                                        • Power Play
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                                          • 02-01-10
                                          • 1224

                                          #21
                                          If the Cowboys cares they're the play based on desperation. However, the team has look very lethargic though through two games and historically the last few years have not stepped up their game when it mattered. Bottom line is that Shaub is better than Romo and whoever Texan's coach is rates better than Wade Phillips.
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                                          • thebestthereis
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-01-09
                                            • 11459

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by k13
                                            So they are that much better yet the game is a pk'em taking away home field?

                                            Why is it not -3.5 -4.5 -6.5 -7?

                                            I mean a crappy 0-2 team against an amazing 2-0 team, they should at least be favoured, no?
                                            the line is about right for betting purposes yes. they cannot be whatever the right/true number you wanna put on the game. the line is right for roughly equal action coming in. if they made the line -7 (houston might win by 7) the books would get buried beyond belief if the cowboys covered (which they could). i am saying the texans are playing better right now and are better right now. i think the cowboys are just in a more desperate mode right now and have the talent to win here (unlike say the browns in this spot). i am taking 8.5 in a tease because i cannot see the cowboys losing this game by 10, the texans defense is not good enough in my opinion.
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                                            • JosephPavs
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                                              • 07-29-10
                                              • 1660

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by thebestthereis
                                              the line is about right for betting purposes yes. they cannot be whatever the right/true number you wanna put on the game. the line is right for roughly equal action coming in. if they made the line -7 (houston might win by 7) the books would get buried beyond belief if the cowboys covered (which they could). i am saying the texans are playing better right now and are better right now. i think the cowboys are just in a more desperate mode right now and have the talent to win here (unlike say the browns in this spot). i am taking 8.5 in a tease because i cannot see the cowboys losing this game by 10, the texans defense is not good enough in my opinion.
                                              #2 run D is not good enough?
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                                              • uanl
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 10-10-09
                                                • 825

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by JosephPavs
                                                #2 run D is not good enough?
                                                one of those games was against the colts..the colts are a passing team..so that run D for the texans might be a little overrated in regards to it being the #2 run D... im not saying they aren't a good run stop team cuz they might be..but almost anyone playing the colts will look good against the run..
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                                                • k13
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                                                  • 07-16-10
                                                  • 18104

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by thebestthereis
                                                  the line is about right for betting purposes yes. they cannot be whatever the right/true number you wanna put on the game. the line is right for roughly equal action coming in. if they made the line -7 (houston might win by 7) the books would get buried beyond belief if the cowboys covered (which they could). i am saying the texans are playing better right now and are better right now. i think the cowboys are just in a more desperate mode right now and have the talent to win here (unlike say the browns in this spot). i am taking 8.5 in a tease because i cannot see the cowboys losing this game by 10, the texans defense is not good enough in my opinion.
                                                  for betting purposes it is obviously right so all the suckers can take houston -3 and most likely lose.
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                                                  • uanl
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 10-10-09
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                                                    #26
                                                    just heard that the starting left tackle for the texans is suspended for 4 games for violating the NFL performance enhancing substance policy... change of thought anyone???
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                                                    • JosephPavs
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                                                      • 07-29-10
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by uanl
                                                      one of those games was against the colts..the colts are a passing team..so that run D for the texans might be a little overrated in regards to it being the #2 run D... im not saying they aren't a good run stop team cuz they might be..but almost anyone playing the colts will look good against the run..

                                                      I'm going back past 10 games
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                                                      • JosephPavs
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                                                        • 07-29-10
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by uanl
                                                        just heard that the starting left tackle for the texans is suspended for 4 games for violating the NFL performance enhancing substance policy... change of thought anyone???
                                                        Sure does 76 is a damn good player it takes away the cut back lanes but they will still live with 3 te sets and leach
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                                                        • uanl
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 10-10-09
                                                          • 825

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by JosephPavs
                                                          I'm going back past 10 games
                                                          my bad.. thought u were just talking about this season.. decent stat then...
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                                                          • CMangano
                                                            SBR Hustler
                                                            • 09-20-10
                                                            • 58

                                                            #30
                                                            Seems like too easy of a line. Houston getting two-thirds of the action yet various books have them at -3 +100 and I have even seen -3 +111. That just seems like the books are begging people to bet on Houston. This is a stay-away for me.
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                                                            • mv09
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                                                              • 09-20-07
                                                              • 800

                                                              #31
                                                              Houston wins easily. It seems like a square play given the results the past two weeks and the spread, but Houston should win easily regardless.

                                                              I'm a huge Cowboys fan, being from the area, and while I know the Cowboys are not as bad as they've shown the past two weeks, they aren't as good as people think. The playcalling is predictable. Running game is nonexistant. Offensive Line has gone from horrific to bad w/ them starting to heal up. They played already in preseason. Starters vs Starters and Houston moved the chain vs the defense and tore apart the offense. Why would it change? Nothing has changed from their last meeting. Dallas is still playing horrible and could very well start 0-5 after losing to Houston, potentially Tennesee, and Minnesota.
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                                                              • uanl
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 10-10-09
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                                                                #32
                                                                the cowboys have been passing like crazy, and the texans secondary is very suspect getting lighted up not just by peyton, but by mcnabb too..
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                                                                • Rixsaw
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                                                                  • 10-23-08
                                                                  • 4532

                                                                  #33
                                                                  This is a game time decision for me. I see the public still backing the Boys because they are (a) chasing (b) believing that the Boys will bounce back.
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                                                                  • uanl
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 10-10-09
                                                                    • 825

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Rixsaw
                                                                    This is a game time decision for me. I see the public still backing the Boys because they are (a) chasing (b) believing that the Boys will bounce back.
                                                                    well its still early, as of right now it seems 71% texans...barely tuesday tho, so we'll see how it ends up..
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                                                                    • NardVa
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 10-02-07
                                                                      • 8325

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I say ride Houston until they lose. Every year you have a team that just continues to win every week with all the luck going there way. Houston may be that team this year.
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