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damn lot of chatter on this thread, took me 10 minutes to find this quote and it was just a couple days ago.
are you legend or busted out yet>? just wondering...
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martywest17
SBR High Roller
11-03-10
219
#7387
Totally agree. We need a thread to get together as a team with solid picks and money management and drown this mother Fuker vinnie
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hoku808pc
SBR Wise Guy
09-30-10
668
#7388
Originally posted by SCRAGGS
that's what i am saying, the rookies are taking him out of his game.
I agree 100%... But I don't feel like I'm one of them... LOL... at least I hope not...
Smack knows his shit in the NFL... But too much pressure might be forcing him to make plays... and all this negative shit might also be fcking with his head... I really don't know cause I dont know him personally, but I hope he gets back on track... and I also hope all the negative bashing stops cause it is not helping either...
I just hope you guys are hearing/reading this...
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Timmah2483
SBR Wise Guy
11-25-10
610
#7389
haha, these posts are my favorite! one guy started a thread at the right time, got a nice streak going, everyone started tailing him (especially vunerable guys with low or no profits) His streak comes to an end... He enjoyed being the guy on top for awhile, so he makes unusual bets to try to savour the thread... everyone starts losing money even himself, everybody is frustrated!
This happens soo often, they should make a movie sort of like this! put Al Pacino in it, maybe Mathew McConaughey.. maybe call it.. Two For The Money.
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JGetz
SBR Wise Guy
04-19-10
752
#7390
Originally posted by Timmah2483
haha, these posts are my favorite! one guy started a thread at the right time, got a nice streak going, everyone started tailing him (especially vunerable guys with low or no profits) His streak comes to an end... He enjoyed being the guy on top for awhile, so he makes unusual bets to try to savour the thread... everyone starts losing money even himself, everybody is frustrated! This happens soo often, they should make a movie sort of like this! put Al Pacino in it, maybe Mathew McConaughey.. maybe call it.. Two For The Money.
You joined 5 days ago...
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xelance
SBR MVP
11-25-10
1750
#7391
Im up a few units because of San Francisco tonight, mashed those cardinals like I knew they would. LOVE IT....didnt touch the over/under though, too scary.
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Timmah2483
SBR Wise Guy
11-25-10
610
#7392
Originally posted by JGetz
You joined 5 days ago...
sooo... 6 would be better? I dont really understand your LMAO, other than your the type to base someones knowlegde of threads or Betting, off of the date joined. this isnt the only betting thread out there, been a member of the hidden CBSSportsline thread for about 3 years. It holds the least volume of trash!
nevertheless, it happens alot. if you dont know, you will. nobody picks perfect forever, and Quality is better than Quantity! this thread is 2 months old, and has 212 pages. thats a red flag to any smart bettor.
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JMobile
SBR Posting Legend
08-21-10
19078
#7393
If all you guys are not sure about the Parlays, just play the games straight. If they all hit, then great. If some hit and some don't, your better off winning some and losing some causing to break even which is a good thing.
Let Smack do his work and stop giving him shit.
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Nickelicious
SBR MVP
05-21-09
2647
#7394
Originally posted by hoku808pc
Okay bro...
And I'm being 100% serious here... As a rookie sports better here, what can you teach me about line movements, the importance of beating the closing number and when to bet heavy and when not to?
I cannot afford to lose any more money, but I just can't quit gambling... I'm pretty much a go big or go home, all in or nothing kind of person, but I don't want to quit and let the bookie get the best of me...
Wouldn't mind getting some of my losses back slowly and surely... And would like to learn from other cappers here who feel they have knowledge to share...
I seriously have faith in Smack cause I believe he knows his shit, and the guy has a really good heart from what I can tell... I think the problem right now is that alot of us rookies and/or tailers are are putting too much pressure on him to get our losses back, forcing him to make picks on plays he might not normally play... Shit, when I first jumped on this thread, as far as I can remember, he was only doing Sunday parlays with an afternoon and night game and they hit, all of them... Now he is playing the board, college and all, even though he said it is not his strong suit probably because too many people, including you guys and probably me too, are putting on the pressure...
So I think it would be better if everybody just lay off Smack with all the negative talk and badmouthing, and maybe be more respectful with our posts (Im probably asking too much)
And again... Im 100% serious about needing help with money management and all of the above, so if you are serious about what you said about wanting to help all of us rookies, let me know cause I am willing and able to learn...
Mahalos bro
If you stick around this forum and read posts from everybody and take them all seriously, you are likely to get even more confused. There's a lot of bullshit flyin' around here, and no shortage of amateurs who crow when they hit it big and disappear like a match blown out when they hit the skids. There is no miracle short cut to being a smart gambler. It takes time to learn everything obama's talking about and you really have to study what has made people successful in the past.
Not just short-term, hot-streak successful. But long-term, low-risk successful.
The most important and most basic principle of successful gambling is money management. Smack is not only bad at money management, he is the worst gambler on this forum when it comes to money management. All this crap about 60-unit plays, 75% of bankroll and "good chunk" betting is the most amateurish crap I've ever seen. I don't care if you hit two bets in a row or ten bets in a row, you are going to go broke betting like that. Most professional gamblers will bet 1/2 to 2 units a game, and those units are generally (not always) 1% of their existing bankroll (some do less and some do more, but the standard is 1%).
Smack might very well "know his shit" and be a decent capper, so follow his plays if you want. But if you are betting anywhere close to the units he is recommending, you will be broke within a few weeks. And if you aren't doing HEAVY research on his picks before you hit submit, you are betting like a blind man. Hell, even if you follow the sharps on this forum (and Smack is not one of them), you have to do your own research.
Hoku808pc, I can't speak for obama so I can't give the advice you are seeking from him about line movements, beating the closing number or when to bet heavy. But this forum is a great place for rookie sports bettors like you to learn how to be successful over the long haul. I suggest you go visit the Handicappers Think Tank and just read through a bunch of threads on that forum. It will give you a better appreciation of the hard work and careful analysis that smart gamblers undertake to achieve success.
There is no easy route to making a fortune from sports gambling. Yes, there can be FANTASTIC weeks or even KILLER months when you just slaughter the books and make a mint, but there WILL be other times when you can't pick a winner if your life depended on it. That's just the way it goes. But that's why it's important to be a smart money manager in the first place. And Smack is teaching rookies like you to be a horrible money manager.
Good luck with your future gambling endeavors. I hope you learn quickly.
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hoku808pc
SBR Wise Guy
09-30-10
668
#7395
Originally posted by Nickelicious
If you stick around this forum and read posts from everybody and take them all seriously, you are likely to get even more confused. There's a lot of bullshit flyin' around here, and no shortage of amateurs who crow when they hit it big and disappear like a match blown out when they hit the skids. There is no miracle short cut to being a smart gambler. It takes time to learn everything obama's talking about and you really have to study what has made people successful in the past.
Not just short-term, hot-streak successful. But long-term, low-risk successful.
The most important and most basic principle of successful gambling is money management. Smack is not only bad at money management, he is the worst gambler on this forum when it comes to money management. All this crap about 60-unit plays, 75% of bankroll and "good chunk" betting is the most amateurish crap I've ever seen. I don't care if you hit two bets in a row or ten bets in a row, you are going to go broke betting like that. Most professional gamblers will bet 1/2 to 2 units a game, and those units are generally (not always) 1% of their existing bankroll (some do less and some do more, but the standard is 1%).
Smack might very well "know his shit" and be a decent capper, so follow his plays if you want. But if you are betting anywhere close to the units he is recommending, you will be broke within a few weeks. And if you aren't doing HEAVY research on his picks before you hit submit, you are betting like a blind man. Hell, even if you follow the sharps on this forum (and Smack is not one of them), you have to do your own research.
Hoku808pc, I can't speak for obama so I can't give the advice you are seeking from him about line movements, beating the closing number or when to bet heavy. But this forum is a great place for rookie sports bettors like you to learn how to be successful over the long haul. I suggest you go visit the Handicappers Think Tank and just read through a bunch of threads on that forum. It will give you a better appreciation of the hard work and careful analysis that smart gamblers undertake to achieve success.
There is no easy route to making a fortune from sports gambling. Yes, there can be FANTASTIC weeks or even KILLER months when you just slaughter the books and make a mint, but there WILL be other times when you can't pick a winner if your life depended on it. That's just the way it goes. But that's why it's important to be a smart money manager in the first place. And Smack is teaching rookies like you to be a horrible money manager.
Good luck with your future gambling endeavors. I hope you learn quickly.
I see what you're getting at bro... and I really appreciate the response...
I am beggining to understand this money management thing a little better now by listening to everybody and the different views on it... like I said, this is my first season betting on sports, but not a first time gambler...
I have no idea on how to even begin to do research at this point, besides looking at W/L records on ESPN...lol
Still learning, and would really like to learn more... like I said, I appreciate it and I'll go check out the Handicappers Think Tank now...
Mahalos
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Timmah2483
SBR Wise Guy
11-25-10
610
#7396
Hoku808, DonBest.com gives you S/U records, ATS records, under records, over records, etc.
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Marigold HD
SBR Hall of Famer
09-03-07
5053
#7397
Originally posted by sneakerhead
Smack needs to stop risking too much on plays, ppl who tailed him last night and today must be wiped off.
that would be me.........
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martywest17
SBR High Roller
11-03-10
219
#7398
Nickelicious- Ur 100% correct and can't agree with u more. Thus is my second year betting on sport and did ok last year by betting on my own plays. Ended losing all my winning but did not loose anything out of my pocket. I only found this forum a few weeks but and loving it too bits. I have followed a few callers and have noticed the difference between smack and Alot of others who are really stricked on money management. I like smacks picks as he know his NFL but have never bet the units as he says. I have bet big but enough for me to loose. I have had a bad week with losses but am now starting to do money management properly ... Yes it's slot slower bur it's less risky and at the end of the year after following a good capper your more thank Likely to be up..
Smack love ur work . Keep it up and thanks to the people trying to help rookies like myself get a better understanding about smart gambling.
Peace
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martywest17
SBR High Roller
11-03-10
219
#7399
Sorry if my previous post is hard to read as I'm typing this on an iPhone. Bloody stupid prediction
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haserfauld
SBR Wise Guy
12-12-08
957
#7400
It's all about the slow build. I had a .500 season last year NFL, but ended up positive about 50% (cashed out 150%...not that good, over 9 months, but still a profit). This year, I started small again (and I literally mean small. $150 load up). After tonight, I sit at $415. The first two times I loaded up (2008 season), I lost it all. Now I'm building a roll with money management. 75% on any play is insane, imo. hell, i think big plays should NEVER top 20%, and only if you're extremely confident in the pick. most of my plays are $15-$20 right now, but I started with $7-$10. 75% may as well be all in, because it will take you forever to build that back if you lose it. it's an unhealthy trend, because even if you hit it and make bank, if you go 75% again and lose, you've just lost even more. just my 2 cents.
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Nickelicious
SBR MVP
05-21-09
2647
#7401
Originally posted by hoku808pc
I have no idea on how to even begin to do research at this point, besides looking at W/L records on ESPN...lol
Timmah provided the tip for donbest.com a few posts back, which is great for conducting deeper research on gambling trends and stats, but there's nothing wrong with doing basic research on ESPN.com. I go there all the time to read the game previews, compare statistics for teams and individual players, review schedules and records, check out AccuScore, and look at the Scouting Report. You can learn a ton on ESPN and the more you look at it, the quicker you navigate around the site to learn the stuff you need to learn for every game.
That goes for all major sports. ESPN has some great automated statistics databases for NCAA football and basketball that makes it a lot easier to compare teams you may not know much about.
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hoku808pc
SBR Wise Guy
09-30-10
668
#7402
Originally posted by Nickelicious
Timmah provided the tip for donbest.com a few posts back, which is great for conducting deeper research on gambling trends and stats, but there's nothing wrong with doing basic research on ESPN.com. I go there all the time to read the game previews, compare statistics for teams and individual players, review schedules and records, check out AccuScore, and look at the Scouting Report. You can learn a ton on ESPN and the more you look at it, the quicker you navigate around the site to learn the stuff you need to learn for every game.
That goes for all major sports. ESPN has some great automated statistics databases for NCAA football and basketball that makes it a lot easier to compare teams you may not know much about.
I get what you are saying here, too... but I feel that I also need to watch a team perform to actually see the players in action...
Only problem is I dont have that much time to put into it... I'll check out the info that everybody is putting out here and try to see how I do... hopefully I can start making some good choices on the plays that I tail, instead of going in blind...
I appreciate it fellas... I really do..
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JMobile
SBR Posting Legend
08-21-10
19078
#7403
Originally posted by Nickelicious
Timmah provided the tip for donbest.com a few posts back, which is great for conducting deeper research on gambling trends and stats, but there's nothing wrong with doing basic research on ESPN.com. I go there all the time to read the game previews, compare statistics for teams and individual players, review schedules and records, check out AccuScore, and look at the Scouting Report. You can learn a ton on ESPN and the more you look at it, the quicker you navigate around the site to learn the stuff you need to learn for every game.
That goes for all major sports. ESPN has some great automated statistics databases for NCAA football and basketball that makes it a lot easier to compare teams you may not know much about.
Hey Nickelicious, give me some of your points!
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hoku808pc
SBR Wise Guy
09-30-10
668
#7404
Originally posted by Timmah2483
Hoku808, DonBest.com gives you S/U records, ATS records, under records, over records, etc.
Thanx bro...
I just checked out the site and it has a shit load of useful info.... I will be checking it for every game now along with Espn.com...
Like I said... Any more info would be cool from any and all other people looking to help us rookies out cause I can guarantee I am not the only noob looking at these tips and taking in this useful information...
Thanx again
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MrCondor
SBR Rookie
10-09-10
34
#7405
Originally posted by Bulls55
Lets talk football, almost everyone on here said that these teams were sh!t. I myself didn't expect Arizona to come away with 2 feild goals at home. I know Anderson sucks, that's why Cleveland let him go. I myself took the
under (42 @ bodog), and the 2nd half under. This is what makes this league hard to pick cause you never know who is going to show up when you have 2 donkey teams.....
Now on to thursday and hopefully making some money......
You wanna talk football? How does an NFL team run the ball only 11 times in a game. I've been watching NFL games since the '60s, I'm sure it's happened a few times but that is rare. If you can't run the ball in this league or even attempt to you're not going to win or score many points. That was what was wrong with the Colts Sunday night.
Also, AZ ran a total of only 47 plays. Not really a pattern with this team over all but it has been lately. Take away the garbage TD they had in the KC game when time expired the week before and what's revealing is they come away with only 2 FGs. Exactly what they scored last night.
Next game on tap for them is St. Louis. You watched them lay an egg last night. Do some home work and look for an angle. Read the AZ papers this week online and see what is being said about the team. That has a huge impact.
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busmackdownvub
SBR Rookie
11-19-10
32
#7406
bottom line
I see a lot of confused remarks here
Lets get things straight
Smack is a GOOD capper whatever his bashers may say
I did a scan of the whole thread
His NFL performance is as follows:
Week 1: 3W 0L
Week 2: 5W 1L
Week 3: 3W 2L
Week 4: 3W 2L
Week 8: 4W 4L
Week 9: 6W 0L
Week 10:6W 5L
Week 11 3W 4L
Week 12: 5W 6L
So this comes to 60.31% on straight bets
This is a GOOD capper and it is NOT a streak
Also he hit 3 of 8 his 3 teamer parlays
His "all in" "whole bankroll" stuff is just hype!
If you follow him devoutly you will make money
Just keep bettin the same amount and dont put pressure on him
You cant make money off just line moves etc that's crap
As an experienced capper wanted to set things into proper perspective for apparently confused bros!
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c4yrslf12
SBR High Roller
11-01-10
139
#7407
Originally posted by busmackdownvub
I see a lot of confused remarks here
Lets get things straight
Smack is a GOOD capper whatever his bashers may say
I did a scan of the whole thread
His NFL performance is as follows:
Week 1: 3W 1L
Week 2: 3W 1L
Week 3: 3W 2L
Week 4: 3W 2L
Week 8: 4W 4L
Week 9: 6W 0L
Week 10:6W 5L
Week 11 3W 4L
Week 12: 5W 6L
So this comes to 58.33% on straight bets
This is a GOOD capper and it is NOT a streak
Also he hit 3 of 8 his 3 teamer parlays
His "all in" "whole bankroll" stuff is just hype!
If you follow him devoutly you will make money
Just keep bettin the same amount and dont put pressure on him
You cant make money off just line moves etc that's crap
As an experienced capper wanted to set things into proper perspective for apparently confused bros!
Dang, you put in work bro. This thread is like 150 pages long. I'm impressed. But you're right, Smack is a good capper, but the money management he spoke of early on is a slippery slope at the moment. But yet again, he DOES say every week, "Bet what you can afford to lose." The responsibility lies with you, when you click your mouse buttons into your account and buy your ticket. I'm stickin' around, 'cuz I like to see 58% W/L records.
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rem sleep
SBR MVP
10-04-10
1238
#7408
Smack went 2-6 on Sunday and Monday. And he lost 75% of his roll on the sunday night game and lost a "good chunk" on the monday night game. He once told me he gets his stats from "Biffs Almanac."
Biff is the reincarnation of Sammy Sunshine. Dont worry tho Smack backers, hes on tilt working on a 1000 unit and or bankroll play for tonight
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falconticket
SBR MVP
09-05-10
3414
#7409
Originally posted by Nickelicious
Timmah provided the tip for donbest.com a few posts back, which is great for conducting deeper research on gambling trends and stats, but there's nothing wrong with doing basic research on ESPN.com. I go there all the time to read the game previews, compare statistics for teams and individual players, review schedules and records, check out AccuScore, and look at the Scouting Report. You can learn a ton on ESPN and the more you look at it, the quicker you navigate around the site to learn the stuff you need to learn for every game. That goes for all major sports. ESPN has some great automated statistics databases for NCAA football and basketball that makes it a lot easier to compare teams you may not know much about.
Never ever And I mean Never look at the final score prediction at the bottom of the scouting reports on ESPN.com. Report is ok, score prediction is never remotely right in my experience.
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obamaismyuncle
SBR Posting Legend
12-31-08
17801
#7410
Originally posted by busmackdownvub
I see a lot of confused remarks here
Lets get things straight
Smack is a GOOD capper whatever his bashers may say
I did a scan of the whole thread
His NFL performance is as follows:
Week 1: 3W 0L
Week 2: 5W 1L
Week 3: 3W 2L
Week 4: 3W 2L
Week 8: 4W 4L
Week 9: 6W 0L
Week 10:6W 5L
Week 11 3W 4L
Week 12: 5W 6L So this comes to 60.31% on straight bets
This is a GOOD capper and it is NOT a streak
Also he hit 3 of 8 his 3 teamer parlays
His "all in" "whole bankroll" stuff is just hype!
If you follow him devoutly you will make money
Just keep bettin the same amount and dont put pressure on him
You cant make money off just line moves etc that's crap
As an experienced capper wanted to set things into proper perspective for apparently confused bros!
First of all I said I was done with this thread but can't pass this up. Record is 100% meaningless, you can go 1-9 and show a profit. People reading this need to know 95% of what you mentioned isn't true. An experienced capper would realize record means nothing. Can't make money off betting line moves? Your clue-less-ness in general is alarming. You will learn the hard way, I am now done with this thread for good.
Don't forget one of the last 2 losses was a 70% bankroll on the line play and the other was for a good chunk. You do not have a clue. 60% winning % only means something if you're betting the same amount on every play.
And why is it most everyone in this thread following this guy has joined in the last couple months? Maybe a sign that the rest went broke.
Funny how you have one post and just joined. 50/50 shot you're "Smack" himself. You sir have no idea, quit trying to lecture these followers like you know what you're doing, you haven't a clue.
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busmackdownvub
SBR Rookie
11-19-10
32
#7411
Originally posted by obamaismyuncle
First of all I said I was done with this thread but can't pass this up. Record is 100% meaningless, you can go 1-9 and show a profit. People reading this need to know 95% of what you mentioned isn't true. An experienced capper would realize record means nothing. Can't make money off betting line moves? Your clue-less-ness in general is alarming. You will learn the hard way, I am now done with this thread for good.
Don't forget one of the last 2 losses was a 70% bankroll on the line play and the other was for a good chunk. You do not have a clue. 60% winning % only means something if you're betting the same amount on every play.
And why is it most everyone in this thread following this guy has joined in the last couple months? Maybe a sign that the rest went broke.
Funny how you have one post and just joined. 50/50 shot you're "Smack" himself. You sir have no idea, quit trying to lecture these followers like you know what you're doing, you haven't a clue.
sorry obama
ipercentage IS the whole thing and ONLY thing if you are betting poroperly
You must be a moron to lose at 60%.
Of course that "75%" or "all in" stuff is hype!
I cant see anyone taking those at face value.
You would be up over 3K if you bet Smacks picks 300 a shot and 100 on his parlays.
If you have a similar percetage Id like to track it gladly.
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firedawg
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
10-08-08
39231
#7412
im over 70%
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obamaismyuncle
SBR Posting Legend
12-31-08
17801
#7413
Originally posted by busmackdownvub
sorry obama ipercentage IS the whole thing and ONLY thing if you are betting poroperly
You must be a moron to lose at 60%.
Of course that "75%" or "all in" stuff is hype!
I cant see anyone taking those at face value.
You would be up over 3K if you bet Smacks picks 300 a shot and 100 on his parlays.
If you have a similar percetage Id like to track it gladly.
I don't even know where to start with what you said..good luck with your picks.
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busmackdownvub
SBR Rookie
11-19-10
32
#7414
Im sorry obama I have no clue who smack is.
I have been only following him thru the year
When I joined means nothing. I was just observing. Insulting me just because I just joined is proof that you ARE an imbecile.
Huff and puff all you want
but smck is a 60% capper and YOU ARE NOT so pls shut UP!
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firedawg
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
10-08-08
39231
#7415
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busmackdownvub
SBR Rookie
11-19-10
32
#7416
Originally posted by rem sleep
Smack went 2-6 on Sunday and Monday. And he lost 75% of his roll on the sunday night game and lost a "good chunk" on the monday night game. He once told me he gets his stats from "Biffs Almanac."
Biff is the reincarnation of Sammy Sunshine. Dont worry tho Smack backers, hes on tilt working on a 1000 unit and or bankroll play for tonight
Smack went 3-1 thursday and 2-5 sunday monday
he is 5-6 for the week
Anyone may have a bad day
I look at the overall percentage
Spewing venom is sweet but useless in the end.
Good luck in your endevaours
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firedawg
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
10-08-08
39231
#7417
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Wayne
Restricted User
12-31-09
138
#7418
Originally posted by busmackdownvub;7702755[I
When I joined means nothing. I was just observing. Insulting me just because I just joined is proof that you ARE an imbecile. [/I]
Unfortunately, you will hear the insults alot because of your join-date. For some reason, high numbers of posts carry weight around here: meaningless or not.
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Ochocinco85mvp
SBR High Roller
11-29-10
154
#7419
good luck smackdown
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SCRAGGS
SBR MVP
05-21-09
1969
#7420
Originally posted by busmackdownvub
Im sorry obama I have no clue who smack is.
I have been only following him thru the year When I joined means nothing. I was just observing. Insulting me just because I just joined is proof that you ARE an imbecile.
Huff and puff all you want but smck is a 60% capper and YOU ARE NOT so pls shut UP!
is that the best you can do for a Name busmackowenvub