Chargers will not win the AFC west.

[slacker00]

Not to mention if Rivers goes down do you really think Volek gonna lead this team.

Volek is easily the best #2 in the league, IMHO. I can't quite figure out why he isn't a starter somewhere in the NFL.


As for bumping this thread after week #3. I guess getting KC @ 10:1 is looking like good value at this moment, but Chargers are gonna be fine. They dropped a couple tough ones on the road. KC got by in some good spots. Nothing earth shattering going on here. SD was in worse shape the last 2 years and still came back. They aren't even worried. Get back to me around Thanksgiving if SD is still 2 1/2 games out of first place, then things will be worth more than a yawn.

[brooks85]

haha when you make multiple threads of different predictions a few of them are bound to come true.

[madmaxx]

Volek is easily the best #2 in the league, IMHO. I can't quite figure out why he isn't a starter somewhere in the NFL.


As for bumping this thread after week #3. I guess getting KC @ 10:1 is looking like good value at this moment, but Chargers are gonna be fine. They dropped a couple tough ones on the road. KC got by in some good spots. Nothing earth shattering going on here. SD was in worse shape the last 2 years and still came back. They aren't even worried. Get back to me around Thanksgiving if SD is still 2 1/2 games out of first place, then things will be worth more than a yawn.

WELL SAID MY FRIEND, VERY WELL SAID.

MM is coming back too. Look, the Chargers know who they are and what they are supposed to be. We'll beat the raiders for #14/#15 in a row, we'll sweep the broncos, and crush the chiefs here.....the Afc West is ours. Enjoy all your futures on other teams, its gonna be a losing bet. Ryan Mathews is better than LT was his rookie year. Philip Rivers is the best QB in the NFL. Our D had the ENTIRE LINE OUT YESTERDAY. Special Teams will be fixed. The San Diego Chargers are not going anywhere, sorry to burst your bubble.

[Goat Milk]

Goat you know I'm an LT fan and I still think he has some left in the tank given a decent offensive line. But this is a young man's game. He is on the downside and in order to stay ahead in this league, you need to recognize when players have reached that point. What did he do the last two seasons to make you think they should have kept him? He's in a great situation in New York now but his time was done in San Diego. Young talent is how you have success in this league

No you don't win championships in any sport with young guys. That is a proven fact. You need veterans to win. LT just had the best season of any RB in NFL history 3 seasons ago- how quickly people forget. He has had the worst O line in the league next to the bears probably for the past 2 years.

He was entirely disrespected. Norv Turner was keeping him out of the ball game in key situations and putting in Darren Sproles. Where did the young guy in sproles get them last year? He averaged 3 yards a carry, even worse than LT, never came through in the clutch.

Look at Tomlinson's performance behind a good offensive line in the Jets. He is playing more than Greene- a young guy. At least Rex knows what he's doing. WHen it comes down to it you think Greene is going to be in the game over LT? Not a chance Twiz. Yesterday was a prime example of that. LT taking the carries at the end of the game, backed into their own end zone, and when on the Miami goal line in the last few minutes.

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

So who is gonna take it?

[Nomocino]

Chargers cant win in September, but will still win the division. special teams sucked yesterday.Chiefs are a paper tiger they will end up like last years Broncos, but they do have a lot of good young players mabee in two more years the win the division

[t-wizzle]

No you don't win championships in any sport with young guys. That is a proven fact. You need veterans to win. LT just had the best season of any RB in NFL history 3 seasons ago- how quickly people forget. He has had the worst O line in the league next to the bears probably for the past 2 years.

He was entirely disrespected. Norv Turner was keeping him out of the ball game in key situations and putting in Darren Sproles. Where did the young guy in sproles get them last year? He averaged 3 yards a carry, even worse than LT, never came through in the clutch.

Look at Tomlinson's performance behind a good offensive line in the Jets. He is playing more than Greene- a young guy. At least Rex knows what he's doing. WHen it comes down to it you think Greene is going to be in the game over LT? Not a chance Twiz. Yesterday was a prime example of that. LT taking the carries at the end of the game, backed into their own end zone, and when on the Miami goal line in the last few minutes.

I've said time and time again that Tomlinson had no offensive line to block for him the past two years. But if you think he is the same back from '06, you are in denial. That's not to say he still can't be effective though in the right situation such as in New York. Every team is going to have some veterans, but the ones that have success know how to draft well and build with youth. Why should San Diego keep Tomlinson? It wasn't a good fit anymore; the o-line stinks and they have changed to a passing offense.

One of the major reasons the Saints have gotten so good is because they drafted well and let their young players grow. Sure, Drew Brees is a vet and a great qb and Sharper did a great job for them last season. But they never would have been in the position they are in now if they didn't draft well and develop their young guys.

[Goat Milk]

i agree twiz but the saints had numerous vets on that team. Colston's been there for awhile, Shocky was there, Vilma was there, they even brought in Deuce just to be a vocal leader on the sidelines for a bit.

Tomlinson is not the same as 06 but he is still a top 5-6 running back in this league in my opinion and i just don't see how you can let someone like that go if your ready to win this year. The chargers are obviously going to have to rebuild. Its all downhill from here for them. Gates will try and leave if they don't do anything this year.

Bro I have made this case in numerous threads about multiple players. During the world cup, about 3 months before it even started, I made a thread and said Brazil will get knocked out in the quarters simply because Dunga disrespected a legend in Ronaldhino by not putting him on the team. Everyone said i was crazy. They lost in the quarters.

I said the same thing about Argentina because he didn't put Cambiossa and Zennetti on the team even after they won the CHampions League this year. Some people think that you can just fill a legends shoes like Ronaldhino. Like he is replacable. Even if you think you can replace talent, you can't replace leadership.

[BettingWizard]

gonna be the same as the past 2 years, upstart team gets off to fast start, and then wilts under pressure as the Chargers rip off their win streak at the end

Chiefs aren't winning in SD so they basically have a 1 game lead now

[madmaxx]

No you don't win championships in any sport with young guys. That is a proven fact. You need veterans to win. LT just had the best season of any RB in NFL history 3 seasons ago- how quickly people forget. He has had the worst O line in the league next to the bears probably for the past 2 years.

He was entirely disrespected. Norv Turner was keeping him out of the ball game in key situations and putting in Darren Sproles. Where did the young guy in sproles get them last year? He averaged 3 yards a carry, even worse than LT, never came through in the clutch.

Look at Tomlinson's performance behind a good offensive line in the Jets. He is playing more than Greene- a young guy. At least Rex knows what he's doing. WHen it comes down to it you think Greene is going to be in the game over LT? Not a chance Twiz. Yesterday was a prime example of that. LT taking the carries at the end of the game, backed into their own end zone, and when on the Miami goal line in the last few minutes.

You sir, are outttttttttttttt of your mind.

[BettingWizard]

LT is garbage now, the only way he gains more than 3 yards on a carry is with a big hole. He can't break any tackles anymore, and his early success this year won't last

[$Burm$]

another game, another loss for SD...LB,

[BettingWizard]

KC can't score against even decent teams

they won't win in SD, so they basically have a 1/2 game lead now

[$Burm$]

SD just lost in Oakland....KC scored on SD, regardless of how they scored, they scored...so SD must not be a decent team then

[ronjon619]

a long way to go in the season.

[lakerboy]

Chargers couldnt stop a turtle. KC played very well in Indy today. My prediction will win in the end.

[ronjon619]

Chargers couldnt stop a turtle. KC played very well in Indy today. My prediction will win in the end.

3 FG's and ZERO TD's is a well played game?

[slacker00]

3 FG's and ZERO TD's is a well played game?

I watched the game. The Chiefs have some chronic weakness at the QB position. Cassell is trash.

I was not impressed with KC and I'm loving the Texans -4 1/2 at home this weekend.

I'll grant that KC could still emerge with their young talent and could be a good December (bad weather) team with their running game and defense as strengths. Cassell needs to learn how to be at least at a Trent Dilfer level of QB because right now he is doing more to lose games than win them. Whether Cassell can be a basic game manager QB or not will determine the fate of this team, right now he is garbage.

Nevertheless, even if KC can flop around and land on 9-7, they still won't stay ahead of SD. The only realistic chance KC has to win the division is to go into SD and take that one. What will be those odds, 5 to 1? That's also assuming everything else goes smoothly for KC. I'd definitely take KC @ 10:1 right now, to win the division, but I wouldn't really want to touch anything less than that.

[luclongley]

Are people not learning from their mistakes? The Chargers do this every single year. They start off slow, everyone jumps off the bandwagon, then they win 6 straight in Nov. and Dec., and everyone overvalues them.

[HoulihansTX]

Chargers are the weirdest team.

They have out-gained every opponent, and played better defense. Though in both losses their special teams have given up two huge plays.

Chargers are an awesome team, but are bad fundamentally in the kicking game.

[theplagy]

3 FG's and ZERO TD's is a well played game?

The offense came short but the defense kept manning without a TD in Indy. They were still in the game in the fourth quarter. That's pretty good to me

[PoweRay]

They cost me too much money - damn them!

[Dark Horse]

LT is garbage now, the only way he gains more than 3 yards on a carry is with a big hole. He can't break any tackles anymore, and his early success this year won't last

Wrong.

LT is doing what he was doing in San Diego when Lorenzo Neal was blocking for him. As soon as Neal was gone in SD, LT's numbers came way down. Now he's got good blocking again and LT is looking like his old self.

[ronjon619]

Wrong.

LT is doing what he was doing in San Diego when Lorenzo Neal was blocking for him. As soon as Neal was gone in SD, LT's numbers came way down. Now he's got good blocking again and LT is looking like his old self.

you are exactly right. LT needs a pure power FB. They made the change to a finesse passing team under Norv and now that's what they do.

As far as KC, when the game was on the line, they didn't produce on offense. They can have all the "we stared the beast in the eye" for 3 quarters but they didn't win.

[lakerboy]

you are exactly right. LT needs a pure power FB. They made the change to a finesse passing team under Norv and now that's what they do.

As far as KC, when the game was on the line, they didn't produce on offense. They can have all the "we stared the beast in the eye" for 3 quarters but they didn't win.

KC wasnt expected to win in Indy- hence the fact they were +9 dogs to open in that game. On the other hand the chargers allowed 35 points to the Oakland Raiders and lost by 8 points as a 6 point favorite. Yes everyone knows the chargers play well in the later months but they also hadnt lost in over 6 years in oakland i believe . History doesnt repeat itself every year.

[ronjon619]

KC wasnt expected to win in Indy- hence the fact they were +9 dogs to open in that game. On the other hand the chargers allowed 35 points to the Oakland Raiders and lost by 8 points as a 6 point favorite. Yes everyone knows the chargers play well in the later months but they also hadnt lost in over 6 years in oakland i believe . History doesnt repeat itself every year.

yes if we are comparing gambling angles then the SD loss was worse, but they both only count as 1 loss in the record book.

[Dark Horse]

The Chargers mistake is that they like to relax, and pick the wrong moments to do so. They were embarrassed in week 3 at Seattle, came out focused against Arizona, but you could see them exhaling in relief and back to relaxing by the 4Q. It carried right over to week 5. Then they'll fight hard the rest of the way, only to realize they don't have an extra gear left in the playoffs. Consistency is all about the right football culture, and they don't have that in San Diego.

[Double_Tap]

WELL SAID MY FRIEND, VERY WELL SAID.

MM is coming back too. Look, the Chargers know who they are and what they are supposed to be. We'll beat the raiders for #14/#15 in a row, we'll sweep the broncos, and crush the chiefs here.....the Afc West is ours. Enjoy all your futures on other teams, its gonna be a losing bet. Ryan Mathews is better than LT was his rookie year. Philip Rivers is the best QB in the NFL. Our D had the ENTIRE LINE OUT YESTERDAY. Special Teams will be fixed. The San Diego Chargers are not going anywhere, sorry to burst your bubble.

How is that #14/#15 workin out? Rivers is not the best QB. Nor or Mathews better than LT was.

SD blew the easy part of their schedule. You have to admit. You expected to be 5-0 after the soft schedule. KC, JAX, Seattle, AZ, Oak.

Beat the Rams next then....NE, TENN, Houst, Denv, Indy, I think 3-2 is the best to be expected out of those.

[Nomocino]

might have to eat some crow Chargers are sucking out

[slacker00]

How is that #14/#15 workin out? Rivers is not the best QB. Nor or Mathews better than LT was.

SD blew the easy part of their schedule. You have to admit. You expected to be 5-0 after the soft schedule. KC, JAX, Seattle, AZ, Oak.

Beat the Rams next then....NE, TENN, Houst, Denv, Indy, I think 3-2 is the best to be expected out of those.

NE & Tenn are both at home. @Hou shouldn't scare anyone. Denv isn't a world beater. Indy is banged up and SD has their number anyway.

None of SD's remaining schedule presents a serious challenge. Sure, they still have to play the games. SD can drop one here and there, but as long as they stay on top of the division opponents the rest of the way and get to 9 or 10 wins, there shouldn't be a problem.

[THA_DIESEL]

Chargers are getting embarrassed

10-0 Rams...and it's only the first quarter

[THA_DIESEL]

17-0 Rams

[lakerboy]

NE & Tenn are both at home. @Hou shouldn't scare anyone. Denv isn't a world beater. Indy is banged up and SD has their number anyway.

None of SD's remaining schedule presents a serious challenge. Sure, they still have to play the games. SD can drop one here and there, but as long as they stay on top of the division opponents the rest of the way and get to 9 or 10 wins, there shouldn't be a problem.

Yes if you are SD's opponent you have no worries.

[lakerboy]

The San Diego Chargers are in last place in the AFC west. The funny thing is that they are also in 13th palce in the AFC. This is not a good team . I doubt they are gonna go on that run they usually go on every year.

[ronjon619]

The San Diego Chargers are in last place in the AFC west. The funny thing is that they are also in 13th palce in the AFC. This is not a good team . I doubt they are gonna go on that run they usually go on every year.

it looks like your gonna get something right.