Does anyone think the Jets will be a huge dissapointment?

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  • thefuture
    SBR High Roller
    • 11-17-09
    • 150

    #1
    Does anyone think the Jets will be a huge dissapointment?
    Alot of people have the Jets as the trendy pick to win the AFC east but I just cant see it. I know they added a few big names but they are older players most likely at there last stop. Cromartie not included but he played his way out of San Diego and hasnt had a big year since '07 and even then his only noteriety was for returning a missed field goal and not his coverage skills. Mark Sanchez was terrible last year 2400 yards 12 tds and 20 ints with a qb rating of 63 for the season. I'll admit they do have a they have a great O line and a great defense. But even with that last year they backed into the playoffs because the Bengals and Colts layed down for them. They did win 2 playoff games but they had no pressure on them at all. Can they handle the New York media hype if they have a rough stretch? Not trying to bash the jets just looking for opinions and find early value in my plays every year theres a team that lets the public down and if you find it early enough you can get paid.
  • Chugs
    SBR MVP
    • 11-01-09
    • 1560

    #2
    Nope, Jets are the real deal.
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    • Z_Wipf
      SBR MVP
      • 01-15-10
      • 1131

      #3
      No I couldnt agree more, I think they will be a huge let down
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      • vegasfred
        SBR High Roller
        • 11-17-09
        • 126

        #4
        Originally posted by thefuture
        Alot of people have the Jets as the trendy pick to win the AFC east but I just cant see it. I know they added a few big names but they are older players most likely at there last stop. Cromartie not included but he played his way out of San Diego and hasnt had a big year since '07 and even then his only noteriety was for returning a missed field goal and not his coverage skills. Mark Sanchez was terrible last year 2400 yards 12 tds and 20 ints with a qb rating of 63 for the season. I'll admit they do have a they have a great O line and a great defense. But even with that last year they backed into the playoffs because the Bengals and Colts layed down for them. They did win 2 playoff games but they had no pressure on them at all. Can they handle the New York media hype if they have a rough stretch? Not trying to bash the jets just looking for opinions and find early value in my plays every year theres a team that lets the public down and if you find it early enough you can get paid.
        I think they'll do great this year. You pretty much spelled it out "they have a great O line and a great defense". Pretty much the cornerstone to success. The'r shortcomings were inexperience and trying to protect a rookie QB. When they let the reigns off the offense, they looked okay in the playoffs. With their new offensive weapons, expect a big jump in offensive production. LT may not be the best runner anymore, but he's certain to catch a lot of third down passes. Dustin Keller in the middle, Cotchery matched up in the slot against a nickel corner. Young legs in the backfield. One more year of experience for the already number one defense. This team will be dangerous.
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        • officepoolguy
          SBR Sharp
          • 07-19-10
          • 384

          #5
          John Clayton from ESPN says that Sanchez is REALLY IMPROVED and will have a great year. It is a quarterback league as they found out last year but it does help to be able to play defense. 10-6 I assume.
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          • Jag8917
            Restricted User
            • 12-15-09
            • 207

            #6
            They couldn't even beat Miami last year. If Jim Caldwell decided to play for the win in week 16 last year then the Jets wouldn't be having all hype right now because they would have finished 8-8 and missed the playoffs. Not to mention they're trying to recycle Tomlinson and Taylor. They won't run as much as they did last year either which is really the identity of this team.
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            • JayTrotter
              SBR Sharp
              • 03-27-10
              • 320

              #7
              Sanchez has the control of this situation. If he has improved the JETS will be interesting..
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              • frostno98
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-11-07
                • 9769

                #8
                I'm still not sold on sanchise yet! The Jets D were unbelievable great last year.
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                • vegasfred
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 11-17-09
                  • 126

                  #9
                  You can't have a "what if" scenario and relate it back to present day. Time is linear. Of course there would be less hype if they didn't make the playoffs last year. But even if they didn't, we would be talking about the team with the best rushing offense and total defense in the NFL. We would be saying that if Sanchez progresses and they open up the passing game more, they could make the playoffs.

                  Because they did make the playoffs and had their deep run, they went out and got players to maybe push them over the hump. If they hadn't made the playoffs they may not have pursued Holmes and Cromartie. Who knows? The fact is they did make it to the AFC championship, they got Cromartie and Holmes, and that drew the attention of LT and Taylor to join through free agency as well.

                  You can't change the past, but the past does influence the future. You can't do anything about it. Look at how the "Tuck rule" changed the course of history ....

                  As for not beating the Dolphins, I ask you this: Were the Carolina Panthers one of the best teams in the NFL last year? Becuase if they weren't then the Saints, Vikings, Cardinals, Falcons and Giants all suck because the Panthers beat them all at least once last year ...
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                  • vegasfred
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 11-17-09
                    • 126

                    #10
                    Originally posted by frostno98
                    I'm still not sold on sanchise yet! The Jets D were unbelievable great last year.
                    Sometimes it's the team around you that can make or break you. Even if Sanchez isn't that good, just by having open receivers everywhere and not having to make difficult dangerous throws, he shoud be successful. Look at Kurt Warner in STL with a Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce, then look at him wt NY with Amani Toomer and Ike Hilliard, then look at him with Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald. A pattern of success with good receivers to throw to
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                    • frostno98
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 09-11-07
                      • 9769

                      #11
                      Originally posted by vegasfred
                      Sometimes it's the team around you that can make or break you. Even if Sanchez isn't that good, just by having open receivers everywhere and not having to make difficult dangerous throws, he shoud be successful. Look at Kurt Warner in STL with a Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce, then look at him wt NY with Amani Toomer and Ike Hilliard, then look at him with Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald. A pattern of success with good receivers to throw to
                      Okay NFL god, ole chosen one. You seem to know it all
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                      • Andy117
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 02-07-10
                        • 9511

                        #12
                        The Jets are gonna win the AFCEast this year.
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                        • Jimmy Proffett
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-20-09
                          • 2729

                          #13
                          This team's a little overhyped, but they won't be a bust. I could see them and Miami sharing the AFC East title.
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                          • icancount2one
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-05-10
                            • 1507

                            #14
                            Originally posted by officepoolguy
                            John Clayton from ESPN says that Sanchez is REALLY IMPROVED and will have a great year. It is a quarterback league as they found out last year but it does help to be able to play defense. 10-6 I assume.
                            Originally posted by JayTrotter
                            Sanchez has the control of this situation. If he has improved the JETS will be interesting..
                            Originally posted by frostno98
                            I'm still not sold on sanchise yet! The Jets D were unbelievable great last year.
                            Originally posted by officepoolguy
                            John Clayton from ESPN says that Sanchez is REALLY IMPROVED and will have a great year. It is a quarterback league as they found out last year but it does help to be able to play defense. 10-6 I assume.
                            You know, there's more to the game than the QB. I see so many posts on here about QBs or how it's a quarterback league, or judging teams entirely by their quarterback, like we're capping a boxing match between Manning and Brees instead of the Colts vs Saints.

                            Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson won a superbowl each. Broadway Joe Namath wasn't the greatest passer of all time either. Rex Grossman was arguably the worst QB in the league the year the Bears won the NFC. Dan Marino, one of the all time greats, never won the big game. There's 22 starters, and every one counts.

                            The Jets are absolutely loaded, and there's reason to believe Sanchez should improve. Most QBs do better their 2nd year than as rookies, and Sanchez was dealing with a knee problem all last year that he got taken care of in the off season. Even if he's just mediocre the Jets are contenders. These guys would have been a playoff caliber team again just standing pat, the offseason acquisitions show this is a team ready to make a run for the Super Bowl.

                            Originally posted by vegasfred
                            You can't have a "what if" scenario and relate it back to present day. Time is linear. Of course there would be less hype if they didn't make the playoffs last year. But even if they didn't, we would be talking about the team with the best rushing offense and total defense in the NFL. We would be saying that if Sanchez progresses and they open up the passing game more, they could make the playoffs.

                            Because they did make the playoffs and had their deep run, they went out and got players to maybe push them over the hump. If they hadn't made the playoffs they may not have pursued Holmes and Cromartie. Who knows? The fact is they did make it to the AFC championship, they got Cromartie and Holmes, and that drew the attention of LT and Taylor to join through free agency as well.

                            You can't change the past, but the past does influence the future. You can't do anything about it. Look at how the "Tuck rule" changed the course of history ....

                            As for not beating the Dolphins, I ask you this: Were the Carolina Panthers one of the best teams in the NFL last year? Becuase if they weren't then the Saints, Vikings, Cardinals, Falcons and Giants all suck because the Panthers beat them all at least once last year ...
                            Awesome post. There were a lot of wild upsets last year, Oakland beat CIN and PHI, and KC beat PIT.

                            For all of our prognostication on here, the old cliche about any given sunday holds true.
                            Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.
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                            • nj6
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 05-09-10
                              • 669

                              #15
                              Overrated.
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                              • icancount2one
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-05-10
                                • 1507

                                #16
                                double post
                                Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.
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                                • AlphaOmega
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-31-08
                                  • 1146

                                  #17
                                  The JETS will make the playoffs but will ultimately loose in the playoffs.
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                                  • alex81
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 07-18-09
                                    • 658

                                    #18
                                    The Jets may be favored to win the AFC East and I think they are for real... That being said I think they have a record at least comparable to last year...
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                                    • thebertshow
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 08-30-07
                                      • 645

                                      #19
                                      They are a solid team but not good enough at the quarterback position to be really scary
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                                      • TheGuesser
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-10-05
                                        • 2714

                                        #20
                                        9-7 a best, but likely 7-9ish
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                                        • vegasfred
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 11-17-09
                                          • 126

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by frostno98
                                          Okay NFL god, ole chosen one. You seem to know it all
                                          Finally recognition for being a god!
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                                          • GunShard
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-05-10
                                            • 10032

                                            #22
                                            Jets, 49ers, Raiders and Redskins got better to 9-7 and greater.

                                            Eagles, Cardinals, Broncos, Chargers and Vikings(No Farve) got worst to 8-8 and lower.

                                            Jets are average even with improved players.

                                            Colts, Saints, Ravens, Cowboys and Packers are still the best teams.
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                                            • D3 Mighty Ducks
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-17-09
                                              • 11939

                                              #23
                                              I'm not ruling out the Pats and Miami. We'll just have to see how everything plays out...
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                                              • BGboothA
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-07-08
                                                • 4202

                                                #24
                                                Tough to bet against the pats, but lets ignore Sanchez for a minute. Fact is Trent Dilfer won a superbowl and he was horrible. He had a good defense and a solid Offensive line with a solid running game. The fact is, Sanchez doesn't have to win any games, he just has to make sure he doesn't lose any. The defense and running game will win thier share. Come december and Januarary I wouldn't want to go up against them in crappy weather.
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                                                • mgcolby
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 10-19-07
                                                  • 950

                                                  #25
                                                  The Jets will be the biggest bust of the season. 6-10/7-9.
                                                  Offense:
                                                  1. Replaced a 1400 yard workhorse with a 2nd year player that was injured 3 times on 190 carries as a rookie. And just announced that he will wear extra pads to avoid injury.
                                                  2. Signed a washed up back who hasn't played well in a cold weather game since 2006, and now half of his home games will be played in less than ideal (San Diego) conditions. LT is not a team player and given recent comments from Rivers and Gates, I think Green and Sanchez will have a hard time dealing with his presence.
                                                  3. They have a very unhappy center who will be thinking about his contract, knowing that they took care of D'brick before him.
                                                  4. They have a rookie LG
                                                  5. Holmes will be coming in week 5 trying to fit into a new system, with a QB with a completely different playing style than what he is used to. Will he be disciplened enough to stick with his route? After playing in a system where free lancing was a must due to the amount of broken plays created by Big Ben escaping sacks?
                                                  6. A QB who was 25th in the league in pass attempts and completed 53% for 12 TD's and 20 Int's. And his playoff stats weren't a whole lot better, except in the TD-INT ratio but when you consider he threw nothing but slants and swing passes for the first two games it would have been very hard to thow picks. They didn't "unleash" him (minus a play-action bomb) until they were down big to Indy and he went 17-30. He attempted 5 passes in the first half of that game and two of them were incomplete. So he was consistent with his 50% completion rate in the second half going 14 of 28.

                                                  Defense:
                                                  1. The best player on the team gave up 20 million dollars of guaranteed money to hold out to be the highest paid CB in the league. That is a monumnetous statement. I don't see him budging much and the Jets know they can't commit to that much money. This is a very interesting game of chicken.
                                                  2. Jenkins comments can't be healthy for the unity of the defense
                                                  3. Cromartie sucks...he has more kids than Int's over the past 2 years, to go with 19 Pass defensed.
                                                  4. Who is going to play free safety? A rookie?

                                                  On top of that you have a coach that can't shutup and has put a huge target on his team. I think they will be a train wreck, especially if they lose a couple of games early. Then look at their early schedule (Balt, NE, Miami, Buffalo, Minny, and Denver) they very well could be 2-4 going into their bye week. Do they have the maturity and leadership to overcome something like that?
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                                                  • Crayzee
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-27-06
                                                    • 4945

                                                    #26
                                                    i so fvking hope so

                                                    i want see the coach choke on his ridiculous statements
                                                    glad hes providing bulletin board material for every team that plays them
                                                    i live in nj and jet fans are the biggest tools out there!
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                                                    • gafl
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 08-07-06
                                                      • 656

                                                      #27
                                                      Like Colby said, Ryan has a big mouth. Lets see if his players can back him up. Usually not a positive for a team. Must get Revis into camp. His lockdown D allows the Jets to gamble with the rest of the D. Not sold on Sanchez. If he improves it is a big positive for the team. Don't see any of their offseason signings except Holmes being a big help. Think they will be hard pressed to match last years record.
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                                                      • vegasfred
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 11-17-09
                                                        • 126

                                                        #28
                                                        3/4 into the season. Kinda good time to look back on what people thought preseason...

                                                        Jet haters were wrong despite this past Monday night.
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                                                        • bacon22
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 07-09-10
                                                          • 292

                                                          #29
                                                          I think they over achieved last year. The Jets are a good team but New England is unstoppable right now.
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #30
                                                            Jets are not as good as their record inciates

                                                            Sanchez an average qb, avergae offense, overrated Defense
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                                                            • vegasfred
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 11-17-09
                                                              • 126

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                                              Jets are not as good as their record inciates

                                                              Sanchez an average qb, avergae offense, overrated Defense
                                                              Didn't Parcells say "You are what your record is"?
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                                                              • EmpireMaker
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 06-18-09
                                                                • 15587

                                                                #32
                                                                Good D + NO O = NO AFC CHAMPIONSHIP and certainly NO SUPER BOWL
                                                                anyone who expects either of those will be hugely disappointed !!!
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                                                                • thebestthereis
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 03-01-09
                                                                  • 11459

                                                                  #33
                                                                  make sure you gobble up some leftover turkey on miami this week as they will beat the jets on sunday
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                                                                  • vegasfred
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 11-17-09
                                                                    • 126

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Maybe the Dolphins beat them , maybe they don't. I wouldn't bet against the Jets this week though. Sanchez has a pretty good track record of bouncing back the next week after a poor performance. Regardless, I wouldn't characterize them as HUGE DISSAPOINTMENTS as the original post asked.
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                                                                    • cant call it
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 08-29-10
                                                                      • 8817

                                                                      #35
                                                                      They are headed to the playoffs but I dont think they get very far. Still dont think sanchez is as good as everyone makes him out to be.
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